If one of the book spoilers I read here by accident happens in Ep 9 or 10 of this season, it is gonna feel like a Tiger Uppercut to the chin. Never mind a falcon punch. EDIT: Since Ep 9 and 10 are going to be epic IMO, I may decide to hold off and watch them back to back. Not sure if I have the will power, but I am considering it.
I've really enjoyed the season but there is so much happening that it needs to be longer. Episode 1 clearly should have been 2 hours and every episode felt like there should have been a little more to it. It's like a lap dance with no payoff. The next 2 episodes define the season.
I have no idea why they don't do 12 or 13 episode seasons. What a shame. In two weeks I'll have no more episodes to watch or books for read for months... sucks.
That seems ridiculously cheap comparatively. I mean we are talking about 10 hours of multiple location shooting with huge casts, extras, period costumes, huge sets, special FX, etc. and yet a 2 hour movie can cost 3 times that. Basically it probably cost less for 30 hours of GoT than 1 LotR movie (which, admittedly, felt like 30 hours).
[/FONT Good god that was a gut wrenching episode, I kind of felt it coming about half way through but still what a turn of events.....the fall out from this should be interesting to say the least.
and cursed. Wow, this episode was a huge surprised and a disappointment. As in, the season is about to be over, just when it gets good, its about to end. Guess, I need to start reading the books. Which book should I read that will continue from where the season left of at? I'm not really interested in starting from the beginning.
Then don't bother. But if you insist then what just happened is about 65% of the way through the third book.
Well, that was as brutal as expected. I knew it was coming, but it was still shocking, so I can only imagine how jaw-dropping it would be to anyone unaware of the significance of the Red Wedding.
I ... just ... um ... wow ... Question, as someone who didn't read the books, I'm wondering ... Spoiler How does The Red Wedding play out in the books, since Robb's wife Talisa was just created for the TV show? In other words, why does Robb break his oath to marry a Frey daughter in the book, if not for love of another woman?
Well. Didn't see that coming. I did mid-episode when Cat heard the song and the doors were closing, etc. I feel bad for the dire wolves. They are dying off like crazy too. Damn. What a week.
not really a spoiler, but background of Robb's wife in the book Spoiler She does not attend the wedding. She actually stays behind in Riverrun if I am not mistaken. Robb marrying this girl is probably the weakest part of the the whole thing. Bullet point is that he leaves Riverrun to negotiate a surrender of a castle and is wounded. He is nursed back to health by the noble daughter of the castle. He learns of the deaths of his younger brothers. He is sad and hurt and horny, so he bangs the girl and marries her to protect her honor. That's not even bullet point because its about as much as it is explained in the text as it all happens off-page. He didn't marry her for love. Her forewent one kind of honor for another. What is not clear is why he married her so soon. In the book, he leaves and comes back married. Its very shallow. At least imo. He could have waited until making peace with Walder Frey and dealt with it later from a position of strength
That shouldn't be the takeaway here. Walder Frey violated the guest right. The salt and bread served in the beginning is symbolic of this contract. To murder someone while under the protection of your house is the lowest of the low in Westeros. Child molesters get a gold star in comparison. The guest right is sacred. Walder Frey and Roose Bolton committed the most despicable act they could. Imo, the show really didn't do Robb justice.
Well I'm glad I missed that. Book spoiling people deserve a dick punch repeatedly. I refuse to read the books because what happens on screen would mean so much less. I'll read the books afterwards. Definitely getting used to trying to not get attached to characters............cause man no one is safe on this show.
In the poster's defense, it was in a spoiler tag. I just thought it was a series spoiler that turned out to actually be a book spoiler. Que sera sera.
I tend to think they are one in the same. Im not sure which post you read. But, for example, I knew what ep.9 would be based on the title of that episode. But I only know that because of what is in that books, not because of some show spoiler site or something like that
This certainly wasnt emphasized in the show. You were almost left wondering, where are all his guards, why is he in This situation in the first place?
I very much agree. The bread and salt was almost pointless because they didn't tell you what the hell it meant. In the book, Catelyn was extremely nervous until she ate it and was put much more at ease afterward. Same for the reader. There are plenty of hints leading up to the event, but after they eat you are thinking they are pretty safe. Lord Frey is a POS, but certainly not THAT bad. Well... Robb is stupid for breaking his vow (and possibly dumber for marrying the girl so quickly), but not stupid for walking into Walder Frey's castle without guards all around him. The guest right is probably the most sacred and adhered to law of Westeros. It has only been violated one other time in all of history. In the books it's really brutal possible spoiler with graphic detail of the wedding: Spoiler Catelyn goes completely insane and claws her face while laughing hysterically. They chop off Robb's head and seat him in a chair. Then they chop off his direwolf's head and sew it on to Robb's body and all have a jolly good time
I haven't read the books, but I was a little disappointed in how Robb's death unfolded. It was way too predictable to me. The scene in the tent with his wife where he tells her he'd do anything for her was too much IMO.
I really thought the dire wolves would give the Starks a much better advantage. They seem victims more than anything else with only a few exceptions.
I agree. He also didn't lose nearly as many men as was portrayed. There are other bannermen that have gone missing. The riverlords still have plenty of troops. Remember the lord form the first season that Robb's direwolf bit off his fingers? Gone from the show. As well as others. His situation the books was a tightrope, but not nearly as hopeless as in the show. In the books, his plan was to re-take the North, not go after Lannister lands. He actually comes up will a really clever plan. Lord Frey does have a good amount of men, but his co-operation is more about safe crossing of the river than man power. Add in that the show did not explain the importance of the guest right, I can see how a show-only person would be only mildly surprised. Not to sound like a little girl, but I really haven't completely gotten over it from the books. I was angry and felt like I was being trolled by the author a bit. The part in the show where Lord Frey is laughing felt a bit like the author laughing at me. I very much had the feeling of "Why the **** am I reading this again?"
Again, I haven't read the books, but I still see the Starks as having a lot left. Arya is the smartest one in the family, and Bran has supernatural powers. Robb and Catelyn struck me as naive and weak. But I still think there is plenty of hope for the Starks.
[video=youtube_share;NGUKDZFiy-A]http://youtu.be/NGUKDZFiy-A[/video] Funny video. Do not watch unless you have seen episode 9 of third season. Also some minor spoilers, like future locations and junk.
I do apologize if I accidentally spoiled it. I assumed that bit was over. Not sure how that would play out on TV though. One thing though is that it doesn't effect the plot at all. I'll feel dumb if it happens because I put spoiler tags around it and declared it not a spoiler. post is edited to note it may be a possible spoiler.