If by "a different opening of the mind" you mean actually shutting down parts of your brain, then yeah.
I don't need to take drugs, well, because I read. http://hepatitiscnewdrugs.blogspot.com/2012/01/magic-mushrooms-point-to-new-depression.html
I guess that means you also advocate the complete stoppage of alcohol, all pills, and pain/headache meds? Are you implying one hit of acid or a few mushrooms here and there are far more damaging on the liver than having a beer or glass of wine every night with dinner, a few Excedrin during the week, and a 12 pack of beer on weekends?
what does a psilocybin study have to do with taking acid? Secondly, why didn't you quote the part of the article that mentions the potential benefits of psilocybin? You know, this part: ....and this part, especially with the growing rate of neurological & mental disorders. like I said, I have Aspergers and I know for a fact it helped me. Argue all you want that it has no benefits; only makes you look naive through my eyes.
Some pills are needed. The occasional use of any of the things you mention probably won't hurt you. However, the illegal drugs may cause a person to end up in jail.
werent we also talking about mushrooms? That's where psilocybin comes in. I never said anything about shrooms other than that they have been shown to affect the liver. You asked about hepatitis so I answered. Just because you don't like the answer doesn't make it wrong.
Are you mad because these drugs basically make a person ******ed or are you mad because you believed they somehow made a person smarter?
I don't do drugs! Up with hope. Down with dope! And no thanks on the *****. If that's your thing, all the power to ya. Lol
nice diversional tactic. Your initial argument about the liver failed so you switched it up to mentioning jail. So you never take pain/headache pills?
I never said permanently ******ed. While on them, however, a lot of your brain is turned off. Congrats on the big brain.
How did it fail? Whether or not something else affects the liver doesn't make a good argument FOR taking something that also affects the liver.
I once shared that mentality too.... till I realized it's a little dramatic and boasts a slight air of naivety with all things and dangers in life considered. For instance, I know two doctors in North Carolina who seemed like poster boys for what healthy living should represent but died before they could turn 50, one from testicular cancer and the other last weekend from an aneurysm. Sorry but I refuse to let my life be ruled by such fear and anxiety about death that I'd pass up certain enjoyable and memorable experiences in life, taking a hit of acid being a small one. To each his own though; I don't pass judgement on anyone for wanting to be a teetotaler. However I agree in the sense that kids shouldn't be touching the stuff, nor adults with either an addictive personality or intentions for using drugs as a crutch. You won't catch me advocating the use of hard stuff either.
You mentioned it shouldn't be taken b/c it can affect the liver. That's a failed argument considering most of us here drink and occasionally take legal pills (pain/headache stuff mainly), and I'd say a lifetime of drinking & pill-taking is significantly more damaging to the liver than the rare ingestion of a few mushrooms or one hit of acid.
Shrooms and watch Elvira host the Night of the Living Dead on Halloween night. Like everyone keeps saying shrooms if anything no telling what non chemist made street LSD and haven't you always liked the taste of chewing on dirty socks? Not that I'd know but a guy that knows a guy told me.
You've gotta know you're talking out your arse right now about this stuff making you stupid and it possessing no ability to expand the mind. Skip ahead to the 18:37 mark of this National Geographic special for evidence on just how well it can expand the brain. It's quite interesting really and only 2 minutes long. (it involves the the prior study I mentioned, but it's Stanford not Duke) [video=youtube;3aZre1Lib0o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aZre1Lib0o[/video]
Not so much that per se, it is more the way the brain is wired events are filtered through several mechanisms, this effects perception. A open perception will experience different things that the normal mind would never connect. The less then positive side is it can also then activate the lower portion of the brain, like amygdala, which control basic process of fight or flight when reacting to that stimuli. INOW, it's a crap shoot, excessive use can also damage DNA etc as well This is the downside to drug use, one of them, ditto booze, the positive and negative effects are rarely weighed..they are just consumed and let the chips fall where they may. MDA(Molly)/MDMA(extasy) for example, were once promising therapy approaches, now that is banned in the US. 2 minutes watching people skip around with baby pacifiers and water bottles and glow sticks is enough to dissuade me! I'll take some St John's Wort..that is about it.
Nope. Still doesn't change what I wrote. Alcohol can mess up people too. I thought we were talking about illegal drugs here? (BTW, in another thread I've said that I think most drugs should be legalized...in case you're wondering)
No I didn't. You asked if it could cause hepatitis. I wrote that there is evidence that it negatively affects the liver. Do you know what Hep C is? Not being a smart *** here, most don't know what hepatitis is.
I was quoting from the movie Half Baked. i wouldn't take acid because I've seen what it can do to people. I wouldn't take mushrooms because they're illegal and I don't want my kids to have to visit me in jail.
Here's an interesting quote in the Nat'l Geo clip by DR James Fadiman <PHD & MA from Stanford and is considered among America's wisest and most respected authorities on psychedelics and their use>. It's regarding the normal subconscious brain's ability to only process about 200 bits of information per second out of the 10 million received where as the LSD mind seems capable of more.
.... and then there's this question posed to DR Fadiman during an interview about psychedelics, followed by his equally attention grabbing answer: Hey Justright, maybe you should tell these Nobel Prize winners about how acid turned them into morons and that the expansion of their brains was nothing more than a figment of their imagination, that their subsequent Nobel Prize awards didn't actually happen.
How 'bout the intriguing follow up question and answer: See that, an addiction counselor micro-dosing with it.
... and a quote from the subsequent question answered: So Justright, is that how you feel when you pick up a book?
....and lastly Dr Fadiman's response about how psychedelic use has affected his own life: This is very much true for me as well and I only took acid twice, a dozen years ago at that.
Don't give me that. You directly said there's evidence that hallucinogens can damage the liver. You weren't talking about Hep C so stop backtracking. And yes I know what Hep C is and its affect on the liver, but that has nothing to do with your statement about hallucinogens, specifically the topic of this thread, acid, not being good for the liver. Besides, what does acid have to do with Hep C considering LSD isn't hepatotoxic. BTW, hallucinogenic mushrooms that contain both psilocybin and psilocin are not hepatotoxic either. This is straight from the book "The First Year: Hepatitis C -An Essential Guide to the Newly Diagnosed".
Went thru that phase living in Paris for four years, starting trying to take some aspects of the trip into my reality, i don't regret the experiences because it was all about learning from them, but i wouldnt do them now, no need at this stage, too old, with too much responsibility, Also saw my best bud go crazy on it lying in the middle of the floor of a lobby saying god told him to do it.. Craziest trip, a two day bender at Joshua tree, water, fire, and the dessert, coolest thing that happened??, experiencing sound travel in the dessert, you can go hundreds of yards away from each other, but in the still of the night, in the mountains, you can literally whisper to the person 200 yards away and hear them like their right next to you....ahh to be young.. I was single with no kids and a no financial problems and an inner confidence that i would not let myself become abusive.... see ya on the other side..
Kid in my high school used to then proceed to play basketball games and light it up......dumbass is in jail now....
As for LSD... -Don't plan on planning to do anything, like make sure you have nothing to do for at least 12 hours -Light sucks -You better be mental tough because if you aren't you will panic -There is no off switch, so if 2 hours into it you don't like it, either you go to a hospital or ride it out....depending on the tab peaks can actually occur 6 hours into it -You lose all sense of time -You lose all sense of how much you drink (you could polish off 20-30 beers no problem), smoke etc -Don't be around people who aren't doing it -It is a chemical as opposed to shrooms so it is worse for you...it does change your mentaility -It is cheap -Music helps to enhance it, not conversation, acid is more about your actual individual journey with it than a group thing. You will be talking to somebody about something and lose total train of thought and that happens alot. -Don't drive, dont even be tempted with the keys, put them with somebody because you will get the Superman feeling about being able to do anything. Honestly don't even do it, you aren't missing much....