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Travon Martin Trial

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by RickyBobby, Jun 26, 2013.

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  1. Fin D

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    Two different maps of the events. They each have different spots for where Zimmerman left his truck.

    They both show that Zimmerman did give pursuit and that the point of the altercation was out of the way for Zimmerman heading back to his truck. For Zimmerman's story to make sense, this would be impossible. Its also obvious that Zimmerman followed him whole in the vehicle to.

    So I say again, pretend you're Martin walking back form the store and some guy in a truck starts to follow you slowly. Then all of a sudden the guy stops and jumps out chasing after you.

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  2. jdang307

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    The first map cracks me up.

    "Zimmerman craps his pants."
     
  3. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    I understand that girls will fight. But others are watching. Could make for a bad example
     
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  4. Fin D

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    I will cut you.
     
  5. slickj101

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    What if they just watch pron instead?
     
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  6. maynard

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    pron for FinD is picking a fight any chance he gets and pron for jdang is asserting his right wingedness
     
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  7. Fin D

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    I will still cut you.
     
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  8. Paul 13

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    I notice that in that first map that Martin's arrow is black and Zimmerman's arrow is yellow. Martin's arrow tip is also bigger. These are the facts as I see them.
     
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  9. jdang307

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    100% false you Liberal commie.
     
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  10. jdang307

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    [video=youtube;zel7rayP5_Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zel7rayP5_Y[/video]
     
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  11. Unless Martin smiled how could of Zimmerman possibly seen him in the dark :shifty:
     
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  12. slickj101

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    Paula Dean is that you?
     
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  13. padre31

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    From the transcript, he was asked where he parked his truck, Zimmerman came back and said this

    Then he said "I will meet them by the mail boxes" ie, he was out of his truck, and he had broken off the search, and was going to meet the police when he ran into..Trayvon Martin and the altercation began.

    At least that is my take from the transcript of his 911 call
     
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  14. RickyBobby

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    the cut did not require stitches, I think you're overstating the cuts. With that being said one good head bang can kill someone.

    BUT Travons body was laying in the grass
     
  15. slickj101

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    You mean to tell me those canyons the size of the iceberg that sunk the titanic didn't require a single stitch? :gasp:
     
  16. RickyBobby

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    I didn't say any are racists.

    Also not sure what words are censored but u seem angry.
    When you say she lied, are you referring to her telling Travons parents that she was at hospital bc she didn't want to go to funeral? That's hardly relevant.

    If u think saying creepy *** cracker proves he's racist I refuse to argue that
     
  17. RickyBobby

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    I believe only the white male neighbor believes Martin was on top. I believe he had best view though.

    Not gonna look for link on phone but watch the testimony of the neighbors
     
  18. RickyBobby

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    I believe Zimmerman believes 1) he was drugged 2) Travon said something to him...was due to him talking on phone hands free
     
  19. RickyBobby

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    You're both right, please don't derail this thread guys.

    I know this is an energizing subject.

    Thank you everyone in,advance
     
  20. RickyBobby

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    you're assuming Martin turned around to confront Martin.
     
  21. Fin-Omenal

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    FinD will be ripping you a new *** in 3.....2....
     
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  22. RickyBobby

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    Something we have to keep in mind with Zimmermans story that he was looking for address.

    He was obviously very involved in community patrol and his neighborhood on has 3 roads.

    He didn't know the roads?

    The altercation happened behind buildings, away from Zimmermans vehicle.

    Is that where you go to look for road signs?
     
  23. RickyBobby

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    Not fact, one neighbors testimony. Others have testified to the opposite.

    So no, not a FACT
     
  24. RickyBobby

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    We don't know, that's the point of the trial.

    I will assume that was a genuine question.
     
  25. bigbry

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    How many Martins?
     
  26. RickyBobby

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    This is what gets me, Zimmerman claimed that Martin jump from behind some bushes.

    Have you guys seen the scene? Ain't no Damn bushes to be hiding in
     
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    Reasonable doubt as to whether Zimmerman was in fear of his life or great bodily injury when he was getting pounded, which justifies the use of deadly force. Zimmerman walks.
     
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    Contrary to popular belief, shot people don't just drop dead on the spotlike you see in the movies.

    And not at all, or put a better way, how could Zimmerman know what they looked like while Martin was banging him in the face?

    And a different take, if Martin had those wounds on the back of his head, would they be described as "scratches" or "cuts"? Those are compression wounds RB, meaning his head hit something blunt, very hard.
     
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  29. RickyBobby

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    hardly an alley. Must have been 15 yards between buildings
     
  30. RickyBobby

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    Exactly how I see this playing out
     
  31. slickj101

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    What's the over/under on the number of cities w mini-rioting.
     
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  32. RickyBobby

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    nobody has claimed Martin got up after being shot.

    I think he probably was getting his head beat in then squirmed to the grass before shooting him.

    Ultimately I think the killing was justified legally but I just don't like the actions that I believe Zimmerman took.

    But yes, I do think he was in fear for his life, but only because he is a little *****
     
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  33. cdz12250

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    I'm not going there.
     
  34. Paul 13

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    six member jury, all female, one of color...


    sorry... just more meaningless information.
     
  35. cdz12250

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    Very meaningful information. There are jury selection experts all over the country making predictions just on those three facts.
     
  36. RickyBobby

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    I bet st state and defensevdont feel the same way
     
  37. Justright

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    Not at all. Listen to the call. He seems frightened. However, after he sees Martin run he decides to get out of his truck, not to "chase" him, but to see which direction he fled so he could tell the dispatcher. He then loses sight of Martin and starts heading back to his truck. At this point Martin comes up behind him and then sucker punches him in the face.
     
  38. Justright

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    He said they always get away because Martin ran BEFORE he even got out of his truck. When Zimmerman got out and looked for him Martin was nowhere in sight.

    Never said that Zimmerman was near his truck or returned to his truck and waited for the cops. I wrote that he was headed back to his truck.

    This is just another fabrication of your warped sense of reality caused by, I'm sure, your inabilty to look at ANYTHING objectively due to either an inferiority complex or emotions which cause these knee-jerk reactions.
     
  39. Justright

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    WHat's really crazy is that you think Martin walked up to Zimmerman's truck, saw him talking on the phone and THEN ran because he's afraid of Zimmerman and not that Zimmerman is calling the cops. If Martin was scared he could have ran straight back to his house which was about 50 yds away in less than 10 seconds. Instead he hangs around, out of sight, and then sucker punches Zimmerman. Yeah...I'm sure Martin was soooooooo afraid. I doubt Martin was afraid at all until after that round shredded his lung.
     
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    Words alone can not equal assault. If Zimmerman pulled his weapon out, pointed it at Martin and then said something like "You're going nowhere" that can be assault.
     
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