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Travon Martin Trial

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by RickyBobby, Jun 26, 2013.

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  1. RickyBobby

    RickyBobby VIP DIY

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    what do you mean proving u right?

    I don't dispute it is raining, just shows that maybe it wasn't to suspicios to be put that night. Like you said, three other kids were out in it. It was off and on.

    He said he rolled up his window when gz circled his car. It's in the links I've already posted, I believe the first interview with the woman.



    Everything gz has testified to is where tm attacks him. I think he's full of ****.

    I think its more likely he asked what's the problem ans tried to grab tm. Then comes the punch and the both fall, that is where gz hits his head on the sidewalk.

    Maybe the first screams were help calls to apprehend tm them once he fell that's when he started to scream/yelp AMD pulled out his gun.

    Imo, that's more believeable than what gz is claiming
     
  2. Justright

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    And you still can't read. The OFFICIAL charge was without violence. Try again. ;)
     
  3. Stringer Bell

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    Doesn't matter. The jury heard it.

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  4. RickyBobby

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    Doesn't matter who you are, the interaction between the Asian man and the defense is funny.
     
  5. daphins

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    You're willing to call GZ violent based on his past, but not level the same amount of prejudice at TM?
     
  6. Fin D

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    I know you really, really, really want to get me in a gotcha, but to do that, you're going to have to read the entire discussion and not just pull parts out here and there without context.

    Case in point, I only brought up GZ criminal history, because Justright, was only considering TM's. So, what we have, is you trying to call me out for something I was already calling somebody else out on.

    Don't you have a Guns & Ammo centerfold to spank it over, Zealot?
     
  7. daphins

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    You give yourself far too much credit. I have little interest in catching you in a "gotcha" scenario. It would be fruitless as you'd never admit someone else had a point. It's what you do.


    I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. The ? Would imply that it a question, not a statement. Some of us have to work for a living and we don't have time I read 33 pages of pissing matches back and forth about a court case.

    The appropriate response would be "no, I was making a point about GZ backers making hypocritical statements about TM's past while not considering GZ's"

    But far be it from you to be civil and objective. The point you are making is always secondary to your ego.
     
  8. Fin D

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    Blah, blah, blah.

    I've admitted in this very thread when I was wrong, as I have others. I've never once seen you do that, so get down off your horse, Zealot.

    Others may buy you weren't looking for something from me specifically to argue with, but I don't.

    Hell, you probably think I think TM is guilty because you still think I'm anti-gun.....don't you, Zealot?
     
  9. Nappy Roots

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    Is there a video somewhere?
     
  10. Justright

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    One of the things that I still believe in, a person should apologize when they are actually remorseful for what they've done. I believe it was an accident. I believe that it just got out of control and he couldn't turn the clock back. I would ask him, did he know that that was a minor, that that was a teenager, and that he did not have a weapon?"

    ---Sybrina Fulton, mother of Trayvon Martin

    hmmm, so she thinks it was an accident. Is 2nd degree murder an accident?
     
  11. RickyBobby

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    I think its obvious manslaughter is the only possibility here.
     
  12. Justright

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    No, it's not. He should be found not guilty.
     
  13. 305

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    Get off my lawn.
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    My bad... they must have changed the clip haha They had a longer one loaded earlier that talked about how his testimony was all over the place.
     
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    I agree, but it will take a jury with stones not to go for the compromise verdict of manslaughter. Certainly, the judge is not going to direct a judgment of acquittal. Too much political pressure.
     
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  18. RickyBobby

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    Judge already denied Judgment of Acquittal after the state finished.
     
  19. Justright

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    Which is a shame. The state, IMO, has not presented anything other than an emotional plea for a guilty verdict. No proof or evidence that shows GZ did anything other than what he says he did.
     
  20. 305

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    Not really that he's funny... but that his testimony was all over the place. Specifically him saying that Martin couldn't have moved after being shot, then he said he could a little bit, then he said he had no f'n clue.
     
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  21. Justright

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    Gotcha... The prosecutions witnesses were the best help to the defense. Sometimes the truth is just too hard to defeat.

    i was surprised when the Dr said TM couldn't move after being shot. TM moved until he blacked out due to lack of O2 to his brain. How much he moved is as good as guess as anything.
     
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    I never knew Zimmerman was on adderall??? One guy on adderall, the other guy on pot. If true, this galvanizes my opinion on who was the aggressor here.
     
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  23. Justright

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    I'm glad you're not on the jury then. I realize that you probably have no medical background, but at least use the Internet.

    if GZ truly needed the adderall then he was calm. You see, adderall, when used properly, calms a person. Also, the nonsense about weed only making a person calm and happy is old. A person who gets high on weed everyday or even most days, shows signs of aggression frequently. Like alcohol, weed is a depressant. And like alcohol a person who frequently uses weed can and will show signs of aggression. You know, kind of like how TM broke GZ's nose with a sucker punch...
     
  24. Justright

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    Another point... One I hope the defense uses. People on weed can feel anxious and paranoid at times. They can feel threatened even when there is no threat. Maybe the weed caused TM to feel paranoid and that's why he lashed out at GZ?
     
  25. Stringer Bell

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    I've used both drugs extensively. I know the affects very well.
     
  26. Justright

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    Lol... So? You used adderall why? And it's a fact that weed can cause anxiousness and paranoia.
     
  27. finyank13

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    Whats going on right now? The State rested correct?
     
  28. Justright

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    Yep, they did. And IMO proved nothing.
     
  29. finyank13

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    Defense is up now right? I haven't tuned in lately...keep telling my cousin (lives in Sanford) to fly up here for a week or so when they go to deliberate....

    Or seeing he has his conceal carry license I told him to just "stand his ground".....

    Too soon?
     
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  30. Justright

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    Anyone notice it was watermelon flavored iced tea? Lol
     
  31. finyank13

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    Jerk....
     
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    I tuned it out when the mom was called to the stand, it sort of completed the kangaroo court feel.

    Why not call the clerk at the store where Martin bought his tea at etc?

    That would have been probative at least.
     
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    Explains your Ireland extension fascination in every thread :D
     
  34. jdang307

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    They did, didn't they?
     
  35. padre31

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    :dunno:

    Believe it or not, have better things to do then follow every moment of the circus.

    I've never seen officers so uncertain, never seen a mom up on the stand prior to a punishment phase when they were not a direct party to events, have not seen an exculpatory defendant statement offered by the prosecution and had not seen a re-re-redirect that amounted to a second bite at the testimonial apple.

    For me Jd..the WTF monkey has made an appearance at this one, think it is the nature of the case and political/social angles being played to on camera.
     
  36. RickyBobby

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    Yeah I dare the defense to do that.

    You mean to ask why tm would be paranoid about the REALITY of a man following him in his neighborhood.
     
  37. RickyBobby

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    She was called just to say that the screams were from her son. Defense did the same thing. Wasn't too crazy
     
  38. RickyBobby

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    while I somewhat agree, this happens in courts everday.
     
  39. Stringer Bell

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    No, I don't really use either much anymore. Moved on to better things.
     
  40. RickyBobby

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    wadr...you're full of it.
    Where have you come up with this theory about weed making people aggressive.

    Again, we do not know tm sucked punched gz.

    I think its more believable that gz grabbed tm THEN TM punched him and they fell to the ground where gz hit his head.

    You see, I understand you may not be the smartest, but at least use the internet. You can research the difference between fact and opinion.
     
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