Pouncey needs to get his head out of his butt

Exactly right!

He only likes one particular murderer.

 

correct. The picture though seems to have surfaced after all this. It's quite possible the pounceys knew he was hooked up, but he may not have been seen as hard core.

you did the right thing. I had to do the same thing. As far as we know the pouncys don't seem to be still hanging out with ahern. And yes they never should have worn the caps joke or whatever. I'm not saying I agree with it, just that I understand and I don't think its nefarious. At least not from what I know. I could be wrong.

 

I don't think they are horrible human beings. It wasn't pure evil. I even don't think they had bad intentions. Not that they give a rats *** but Im willing to forgive and forget as long as I know they clearly understand the severity of their actions and have perfect clarity of what those hats actually stand for.

What they did was wrong. For normal people there would be no repercussions but they arent normal. I don't think it's the right approach to brush it off as just "friends sticking up for friends". There is a lot more to it.

 

We love to pretend like this means we have no feelings or common sense about things.

If you had a daughter and she wanted to date Hernandez right now, would you say, "Hey, until he is proven guilty, that's fine!"

Doubt it. Because you have way more sense than that.

 

Agree that the bolded is definitely playing into why it's becoming such a big discussion point, yeah.

 

I think it's more likely they know he is guilty of breaking the law, but believe that it was somehow 'justified' from some sort of ethos they share with Hernandez. It's moral support, not legal opinion... Pouncey & Pouncey is not a legal firm.

 

I understand what you're saying, but their action to choose to become friends with such a bad apple and then remain so with him to the point of protesting his freedom is highly questionable until proven otherwise considering the facts at hand:
-Hernandez looks guilty of murder.
-5 counts of weapons charges.
-A person of interest in this case who drove his uncles SUV ends up dead.
-most likely involved in last year's double homicide of 2 men he got into a fight with at a club.
-possibly involved in a UF murder.
-possibly shot his "friend/employee" in the face while in the car with Hernandez and two other men, then left him for dead.
-was removed from numerous draft boards b/c of heavy character concerns at UF.
-has obviously been into thug life b/c he's a thug. Don't think that tidbit can be hidden from your closest friends as if he's some sort of closet thug. It's not like Hernandez was a saint right up until Odin's murder.
-Patriots dismiss Hernandez and recall his jersey despite "innocent until proven guilty".

That last part is the real kicker. You got a Dolphins player protesting for a guy our rival team wants erased from memory.

 

The point wasn't of the same degree of extremity, the point was to show how we can be concerned by what an action tells us about a person moreso than the specific situation that caused the behavior.

A hat doesn't cause problems on it's own. Unless it's haunted. A haunted hat.

 

But wearing a hat you don't like makes them bad people?

 

I can't wrap my brain around your point/argument.

 

no, but supporting the scumbag Hernandez's freedom as if he's some sort of virtuous political refugee should call the Pouncey bros character into question regardless of past philanthropic efforts b/c each action deserves to be judged on its own merit. If Hernandez gets dropped by NE and the rest of the league, then what do the Pounceys deserve for openly supporting the scum?

 

If you have paid attention to anything hes said in the past you can connect the dots. I'll chime in here to stick up for DJ once more as I understand it.

He works with underprivileged kids who would die for an opportunity to play any sport. He has a boy who he wants to raise the right way. DJ is a hugely devoted Dolphins fan and wants his son to have positive role models or at least not negative ones. A lot of these NFL players are too stupid to realize what they have and act like fools day in and day out. It all the more frustrating when it's a Miami Dolphins player who displays such bad judgement.

Am I close DJ?

Edit: Wait I assumed it was DJ you were referring to....

 

Old news but, not sure if it was brought up in here yet.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...urkice-pouncey-aaron-hernandez-shootings-2007 Troubling to say the least that Mike Pouncy could have any connection to this.

 

Nasty...of course they are. Some cant differentiate between sports and personal life. Btw, do you have a paypal i can donate to, to get you into training camp?

 

And some people are too hard headed to understand another persons point of view.

 

Its funny, but the pendulum has swung all the way to the other side this year.

Last offseason the negative people were taking the smallest things and blowing them waaaaaay out of proportion. People predicting 8-8 were blind homers. We had no hope.

This offseason the positive people are taking the smallest things and blowing them waaaaaay out of proportion. People predicting 8-8 were blind haters. We have a lot of hope.

 

Indeed. I mean, if the only negative things Miami fans are talking about are Mike Wallace's tweets, and the hat choices of Colin Kaepernick and Mike Pouncey, well...there are far worse things that could have happened to Miami players this offseason.

 

That's a shame b/c you're one of the guys I agree with most on the board.

My point is very simple, perhaps you're thinking too hard. It's a hat. You put it on, you take it off, the sun rises and sets the same as before. They didn't kill anyone or break any law. They wore a hat with a name on it, the name of a man that has been accused of doing some bad things. They have done no bad things themselves. They didn't give a press conference declaring AH's innocence or claiming his alleged acts were justified. They didn't try and help him evade the police like Al Cowlings. They put on a hat and there just happened to be a photo taken of them doing it. If they wore a hat that said "Charity Work" would you go on a rant about how benevolent they are in the community?

The Patriots did a lot more than wear hats for Hernandez, they gave him millions of dollars. They cut ties with him after they knew the media was about to descend on them like biblical locusts and they were applauded for being so ethically sound. But prior to the arrest he was still a member of the team. It appears as though Pouncey has a different breaking point. Perhaps he's willing to back him until he is convicted. And while that may sound silly to people like us who didn't attend UF, play with, know, or become friends with Hernandez, it's not at all unusual for friends and family to support a man who is accused of even the most heinous crimes.

 

LOL you can't be serious.

 

Don't be naive Todd.

You think the Patriots woke up the morning of the arrest and decided that Hernandez had poor character and should no longer be on the team? Heeeeeellllll no. They woke up and decided that Hernandez could no longer help them win football games and that unless they cut him the media would stage a million man march outside team facilities for as long as Hernandez was still on the team.

They knew about Alfonzo Dennard's legal issues when they drafted him, before trading for and re-signing Aquib Talib they knew about Talib using a Ruger .380 to shoot at and pistol whip, guess who? His sister's boyfriend. How's that for irony. How's that for supporting scum?


There's no good reason for Pouncey to be condemned or NE applauded, all this means is that Pouncey isn't too media savvy, wasn't paying Hern millions, selling his jerseys or using him to win football games before dropping him once he was no longer useful.

 

I didn't understand your point at first, now I do. I wasn't being sarcastic. My argument isn't that they are bad people so ill leave that alone.

I said Loyal Fin was being hard headed because he was imo belittling DJ for being emotional over this and not trying to see things from his point of view. An emotion is an honest reaction. Hard headed probably isn't even the right term, should've said he's being a dick.

I'm too tired to try to make anymore sense.

 

Why? What's the big deal about freedom of speech? Is this what our country has become? We have to worry about hurting someone's feeling's? Too many people wearing panties in this country.

 

Hahahaha, people thinking what they did is no big deal, is that your way of still being able to root for your team without guilt, just keep telling yourself it's no big deal, it's just a hat..

 

I really see no big deal. This is not a Miami Dolphins issue. So those guys are supporting their friend, what's wrong with that? The US government is filled with scumbags, but we still support our country.

 

No it's not a Miami dolphin issue, it's a human being issue with gross insensitivity who happens to be a Miami dolphin..

 

Different life experiences so different viewpoints.

Like talking to an ASPCA member about dog fighting, then talking to someone from Newport News about dog fighting. Probably get very different reactions.

 

Get your facts straight. No one he is alleged to have killed, whether it be Lloyd or the 2 people killed in the drive-by shooting he may have been a part of, are have been connected to gangs. I'm a member of the Boston media and have covered both stories. I was at the scene of the drive-by shooting. Before you want to paint people with a broad brush, you should know your facts.

 

So going around throwing out hurtful and hateful words and generally displaying an "F YOU" attitude would be your idea of properly exercising freedom of speech? Its basic human kindness to worry about hurting someone else' feelings. Didn't mom and dad explain that to you at about say,.... 5 years of age?

 

/end thread

 

Training camp is so close, yet so far away... seriously, discussion has been going on here but we're all arguing about George Zimmerman and Mike Pouncey's hat right now.

 

I'm surprised this thread is still going. I really don't see it as a big deal and it has nothing to do with being a Dolphin fan. If it had been another team I would have already forgotten about it.

 

I do care about their character off the field b/c I do think it has an impact on the team. I think the Heat this year succeeded in part b/c they were close as a team. But that being said, I put the off the field stuff into perspective. I care if they kill people or beat they're wives. I don't care if they believe Hernandez or OJ Simpson are innocent. I don't care if they are confused about how somebody could be a homosexual. It would be smarter for them to share those views in less conspicuous areas than public photos or twitter or even not share them at all, but I don't equate those opinions with the violent acts of those I prefer weren't on my team.

 

They fact that they are friends with Aaron Hernadez, for starters.

 

Oh so because youre part of the media you know more facts than me. Got it. What if i told you, I know for a fact, aside from being a semi professional football player, Odin was part of a drug ring that reaches down to Miramar, FL? Or the guy Aaron shot whos suing him in civil court? You guessed it...total dope boy. Now the other two were assumptions by me, yes. I'm done with this subject. See you all in training camp.