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Parcells admits regret over Dolphins exit

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Serpico Jones, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    What a POS.

    He blames it all on Sparano, Ireland and Ross.

    Its a travesty that hunk of whale of **** is going into the Hall.
     
  2. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Always interesting to hear his take on what happened even if you can't shake the feeling that everything he's saying is self-serving in some way.
     
  3. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    I didn't really see him admit to "regretting" anything in that piece. Just acknowledging what happened.
     
  4. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    He had control over EVERYTHING but yet he blames others......sounds like a politician......

    Scumbag
     
  5. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I think the "regret" relates to his seeing that he was sitting on top of a fractured organizational structure featuring three sides all struggling against each other to make their mark on the franchise...and instead of cleaning it up so that he could leave the team in good shape, he essentially bailed and said it's time to let these birds fly or die. They promptly died.

    He sees himself as being the dictator that kept that all together and then when he left it fell apart. That's his regret.
     
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  6. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I'm not saying he's right, I'm saying that's the self-serving vision he's cooked up for himself. In his eyes the Miami Dolphins were a 21-17 team during his tenure with much better personnel than when he found it, but with three personalities not co-existing well under his thumb and then when he took them all out from under his thumb, they blew up and went 10-17 until they finally pulled the plug on the structure and hired a different coach.

    I'm assuming that he's saying he officially left the Dolphins after the Green Bay win.
     
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  7. Pagan

    Pagan Metal & a Mustang

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    Die in a fire.
     
  8. Coral Reefer

    Coral Reefer Premium Member

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    Holy....... tell us how you really feel! :lol:

    Fixing this organization was too much work he wasn't up for the task bottom line and he bailed.
    I believe he thought he'd put some of his guys in the mix, they'd do all the work and fix it while he golfed and took all the credit. When he realized that in this one instance that "the poop would roll uphill rather than downhill" is when he bailed.
     
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  9. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    I think the game just passed him by. No more running the ball first. It's now a pass happy, non hitting, getting fined league.
    In his day, I had a lot of respect for him.
     
  10. Pagan

    Pagan Metal & a Mustang

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    Never liked him. Always thought he was an arrogant, fat-titted jagoff.

    But that's just me. :p
     
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  11. padre31

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    I think they missed on to many players and it doomed that approach.

    IMO, he brought us mediocrity, and no more.
     
  12. Fin D

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    I never wanted that sloppy ***** here. I was very vocal when he was hired. I thought his style and blueprint was out of date. I thought the way he treated people was a joke. I'm fairly certain he sweats mayonnaise and smells like vinegar.
     
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  13. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    Do you think he would've had more success down here if he had been the head coach as well as the GM?
     
  14. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    I wanted him here, I supported him the first 2 years he was here because he did increase the talent level we had. but, it's clear he failed miserably in the end. Having said that, he clearly belongs in the HOF, regardless of what happened in his tenure in Miami.
     
  15. Alex13

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    as far as i´m concerned....he can **** off
     
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  16. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Be man and admit your failure, you bigtitted *******.
     
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  17. Stringer Bell

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    The book on Parcells' work in Miami still has a few chapters to be written. If this organization ends up with lasting success under Jeff Ireland, some credit will be due to Parcells for the hire.
     
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  18. SICK

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    What Frumundah, Alex, Pagan, and FinD said...
     
  19. Larryfinfan

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  20. Fin D

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    Meh.

    Ireland was not a Parcells protege. He was considered one of the best talent evaluators and was probably the #1 new GM candidate in the league. Yeah he brought him here but he also almost single handedly ruined his career. So, he brought him here but considering everything else, its like praising the weight loss that comes with getting cancer.
     
  21. Larryfinfan

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    I don't see it that way, Stringer...if this organization turns the corner to some kind of lasting successes, it'll be because of what has been done since he left. His time here was a failure, particularly for a guy who's reputation was what his was. He'll be just another quitter in my mind...
     
  22. DrAstroZoom

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    No it's not.
     
  23. Desides

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    Counterpart headline: Dolphins admit regret over Parcells entrance
     
  24. PhinGeneral

    PhinGeneral PC Texas A&M, Bro Club Member

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    My favorite quote:

    Considering he was hired near the end of the worst season in Dolphins history, it was probably the least we could have expected from him.
     
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  25. jdang307

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    To be fair to Parcells, he was lured here by Wayne H, asked to spurn an ATL deal that he had already accepted, and then Wayne H leaves after a year. You could tell he lost complete interest and engagement at that point. And he could have walked right then, while still collecting all of his money.
     
  26. Stringer Bell

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    Right, but Ireland is around because Parcells hired him. That doesn't mean Parcells would be responsible for the team winning, but it does mean he brought in the GM that helped the team win. Even Stephen Ross says that he learned a lot from Parcells, and to this day still speaks with him. I understand the anger at Parcells, because there are a lot of things he did poorly, and didn't finish. But at the same time there are positive things he did as well. As I said, the final few chapters have yet to be written. As it stands now, most of the chapters are bad, but the story can have a happy ending.
     
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  27. Stringer Bell

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    This is important to note. Parcells notoriously wanted to go to a team where he had an hands-off owner. Stephen Ross is not a hands-off owner. Its understandable why he left, even though I may not agree with the timing of it.
     
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  28. Itsdahumidity

    Itsdahumidity X gonna take it from ya

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    that's his m.o. he'll never take over a .500 or slightly better team. there's only one direction to go to from rock bottom.
     
  29. dolfan32323

    dolfan32323 ty xphinfanx

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    I don't really know how much better we were off. Like he said, the organization was not running in unison. We had a clueless coach out there and there were serious questions about our GM (and who was even making the shots). He came to an organization in shambles, rearranged the pieces, but ultimately left it in shambles arranged differently IMO.
     
  30. VManis

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    I've never been a Parcels fan. To me he seems, self server, arrogant and condescending. He has created as much damage in the NFL as he has good and hasn't really won much without Belicheck at his side. At one time or another he has pissed off fans of:

    Giants - Retired midway through the summer after all the good coaching prospects were signed elsewhere including Belicheck who left for Cleveland
    Pats - Couldn't get along with the owner or GM
    Jets - He retired but wouldn't leave so Belicheck did.
    Tampa - He had a verbal agreement but changed his mind after they fired Dungy
    Atlanta - Signs with the Dolphins after verbally committing to Atlanta.

    Is there another coach in NFL history who has left that kind of legacy?
     
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  31. jdang307

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    That's key right there. He says Ross, Ireland and Sparano all wanted to put their stamp on the team. But Ireland and Sparano are underneath Parcells. They only began to put their stamp on it once Parcells detached himself, which is when Ross bought the team.

    Remember there was speculation from Parcells camp he was going to walk. But he didn't. But he really did.
     
  32. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Not to hear him tell it, he didn't:

    An article from today:

    http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/2013/07/bill-parcells-dallas-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-is-misperceived-i-like-him-a-lot.html/

     
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  33. DOLPHAN1

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    the only thing I would credit him with there is the fact that he was hired. period. it wasn't until after his departure that Ireland started "shinning" and even that is still up for debate pending.
     
  34. Stringer Bell

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    Groceries.
     
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  36. firedan

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    Looking back I now regret his entrance more so than his exit.He left the franchise hanging sorta like Jimmy Johnson.
     
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  37. Ohio Fanatic

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    Wow, way to only focus on the negative:

    Giants - helped turnaround one of the worst franchises in the NFC, taking them to 2 superbowl wins in the best division in football
    Pats - took the worst team in the AFC and took them to a superbowl, even though they lost, it was still a very close game. the foundation of the current Patsies "super-franchise" was built by Parcells
    Jets - took the other worst team in the AFC and one of the worst of the previous 2 decades and completely changed the franchise for the better, taking them to the AFC championship in the process
    Tampa and ATlanta are completely irrelevant to his legacy and it's just stupid to bring them up.
    Miami - pretty much a failure. So, 3 out of 4 teams = huge success. that's a pretty good track record, as much as we hate him.
     
  38. Serpico Jones

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    Ireland only got his head out of his *** when he moved away from Parcells' principles and hired a west coast guy in Philbin. Parcells never would've drafted Tannehill.
     
  39. Stringer Bell

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    I think a lot of the principles are still the same. Ireland is the type thats going to stick to his valuations. He values smart players with high-character. I'm not sure if Parcells would have drafted Tannehill, but he did draft Pat White, who didn't fit his QB rules. I think what has changed is really the head coach and scheme.
     
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