Philbin wants Leach deal done by week's end

I wouldn't. I'd imagine he's familiar with the offense and he's better than Lane and Clay. By a lot.

 

IMO Leach would still be an upgrade if we added him a few weeks into camp. It's obviously not ideal to have him miss that much time as the less of the O he knows the value he brings, but I'd add him as long as I felt he was an upgrade (better player who understood enough of the O).

 

The only thing strange about this is the report that Philbin wanted this done sooner rather than later. Because otherwise every indication is that neither Vonta Leach nor the Miami Dolphins are in much of a hurry to get this done until the opening of training camp. Not unlike getting your 1st round pick signed.

 

it ain't worth changing the practice structure and going out of the way to get one person up to speed, if your not concerned enough to be with your teammates in time to start camp the piss off..If I was Philbin ain't no damn fullback gonna put the way I do things on hold, and as a player if you don't get what it means to start camp as a complete unit then I don't want you.

 

How is he familiar with Sherman's offense?..

To me treating people with favoritism sets a bad example..changing the dynamic 2 weeks into camp isn't worth a vet playing some games or blantantly trying to miss camp as a vet, and if that's his true intent, to miss out on camp, then once again, he can Piss off, don't want that kind of mentality on my team, don't care how good you are.

 

Vonta Leach played for Mike Sherman in Green Bay and in Houston.

 

Doesn't change my POV about being on time for camp.

 

He's plug and play. He could be signed to the active roster days before the first game of the year and it probably would not make much difference as far as his performance within the offense. A fullback's duties are relatively simple so if you're an old salt like him there's not even that much to adapt to when you switch offensive schemes. He knows the system so terminology will not be an issue.

 

I guess I just value the chemistry thing, some speculated that because he's a vet he would prefer to miss some camp time, so I'm going off that premise, wouldn't want the player if that's the case.

 

As a potential vet to fill a leadership role, it would be good to get him in early to camp, but play-wise I don't think it would make much difference.

 

If they're going to work him into pass protection like John Kuhn, I don't know if it's all that simple like the run blocking elements may be.

 

Armando has reported this isn't a matter of Vonta dragging his feet at all:

https://twitter.com/ArmandoSalguero/status/354415808706904065

 

This. The Philbin statement about wanting it sorted sooner than later became a flat comment. I dont know why that was put out there when its obvious who holds the cards with this signing. Would have been best to stay quiet in this case. Player/agent rules the roost in this scenario. Not having Jordan at any camp thus far is a joke imo. Needs to be adressed. Pretty lame having our No1 pick as the forgotten man weeks before 1st pre-season game.

 

Maybe he agrees with me?

 

So is this thing gonna happen or what?

 

He probably wants to avoid as much camp as he can....

 

Ireland is focused on Dion Jordan right now and will get to Vonta Leach by the end of the week, supposedly.

I don't think it's going to work out quite that way. I think if they insist on offsets like last year they're going to have to shelf Dion Jordan.

 

If he's ducking camp with a new team, system and players with which he's unfamiliar, we shouldn't want him.

 

He's not ducking anything. He trying to get a multiyear deal.

 

In which case, welcome.

 

That just simply isn't true. There are so many things that a QB does with a look or a wave of his hand. A FB has to know the blocking and all the calls and blocking changes better than anyone other than the QB. He has to have the confidence of the QB and than can only come with much practice. It doesn't matter how good he is, if the QB hasn't played with him enough to know they are on the same page, all the talent in the world won't help.

 

Supposedly both parties want Leach in Miami. It's just about getting the contract right.

 

I'm sure Philbin understands the importance of having his fullback on time regardless if he played for Sherman..if there's any BS from the player like he thinks he can miss camp cause he's a vet or something, than I wouldn't sign him.

 

I know Ireland loves his 1-year deals this year, but surely Leach is worth at least a 2 year deal?

 

Waiting to see pics of Leach on South Beach, then we will know it's a done deal.

 

If Miami offers a 2 yr deal, he's a Dolphin for sure.

 

I hope so.

 

Ireland's new reputation for being a big spender is not well earned. Dude is still as cheap as they come, outside of Cincy that is.

 

Isn't it nice?


Going into camp discussing whether we'll sign a, ahem, fullback.

 

fixed.

 

If Armando is right then that is disappointing. He would be an immediate upgrade. It's not that he needs to be at camp since he is a FB, but I am concerned he may go and sign with someone else now.

 

That's too bad. Thought he'd have upgraded the run blocking, which needs it.

 

Hmm, hope that is not a case of Ireland Myopic Syndrome striking again, at some point he will realize the less questions you have going into a season, the better, and usually young players do not develop in Miami.

He's probably still holding out hope that Daniel Thomas is actually a stud Rb

 

We can only hope this is another case of Mandy being wrong.

 

I think it's just Leach's side wanting more money or a longer deal than we're willing to give at the moment.

 

i think it's more along the lines that they don't want to give him either the money he wants and/or length he wants....it's not always about Irish being too cheap or myopic....
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