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Omar, the Sniper

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by HULKFish, Jul 24, 2013.

  1. HULKFish

    HULKFish Artist and Scribe

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    WOW. Omar the Sniper makes NFL.com headline!

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...-wallace-backlash-quietly-begins-for-dolphins

    This guy is a joke. He is consistent with his marginal skills and apparent vendetta against the team he is supposedly covering. I realize you don't have to be a fan of the team you are covering, but does that mean you do your best to sabotage that team, and try to cause inner team and fan turmoil with garbage like this...
     
  2. HULKFish

    HULKFish Artist and Scribe

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    If his excuse is a "Show me" attitude, does that constitute for CONSTANT negativity? I don't think this team has anything to prove to him. The comparison to Henne/Marshall is inevitable I guess, but what is this guy trying to accomplish? Nothing positive.
     
  3. Stringer Bell

    Stringer Bell Post Hard, Post Often Club Member

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    I'm not sure how anyone can take this as attempting to sabotage the team.
     
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  4. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    Omar is a classic narcissist. The best way to deal with him is to ignore him. That will help diminish his delusions of grandeur and superiority
     
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  5. HULKFish

    HULKFish Artist and Scribe

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    I guess. I always used Sun-Sentinel.com as my first resource for up to date news on the Dolphins, but I'm searching for replacements. If you watch the video of yesterdays practice, they throw Tannehill under the bus. I am just tired of the skeptisism, and arrogance.
     
  6. HULKFish

    HULKFish Artist and Scribe

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    No, but this does...

    It goes on from there, with Kelly comparing Wallace unfavorably to Brandon Marshall's first days in Miami.
     
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  7. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Be honest.

    Actually READ the Omar Kelly article and then go back and READ the NFL.com article by Rosenthal...and ask yourself one question: did Gregg Rosenthal honestly portray Omar Kelly's piece?

    Honest answer should be no, by a long margin.

    It was one guy saying what he really thinks, because he knows it will get him hits...followed by another guy saying what he really thinks about the first guy, because he knows it will get him hits.
     
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  8. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If you guys want to get really mad at the media, read Pete Prisco's latest.

    Short version, Tannehill has no anticipation and can't get the ball out quick enough. Needs to wait for guy to actually be open. also, we're an 8-8 team at best.

    Have fun with that boys.
     
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  9. Stringer Bell

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    Does not constitute malice or sabotage, IMO. Its Omar sharing his opinion. From what I recall, Marshall was making a big impact during his first camp. Apparently Wallace isn't. If people want to extrapolate that into something else, thats on them.
     
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  10. Aquafin

    Aquafin New Member

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    let me ask this question why does the other teams get so much love from their local media but the dolphins get the opposite ?
     
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  11. ckparrothead

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    I've never seen any objective evidence showing that other teams' local media treat their team any differently than the Dolphins' local media.

    In fact if there is a difference, I can name a few local medias who are a lot more hostile to their team than the Dolphins. Start with the Jets media and go from there.
     
  12. LBsFinest

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    are you talking about the teams that actually put a good product on the field?
     
  13. ckparrothead

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    That's the other thing. Naturally the better the team, the more complimentary the local media will be toward them.

    And media access policies affect this as well. Nick Saban definitely began turning the tide of the local media against the team. No doubt about it.
     
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  14. Stringer Bell

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    I don't really agree with this premise. I live in DC, and their media seems to be about the same toward them. A lot of the media actually pretty hostile toward the coaching staff in DC.
     
  15. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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    Too bad Wallace doesn't have "no flaws in his game" like Legedu Naanee :(

    I stopped caring about his dumb*** opinion after he thought Wake would get cut.
     
  16. ckparrothead

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    You see the Cam Wake thing I get, I can handle that. Probably what bothered me the most about it was afterward how much Omar resisted acknowledging he was wrong.

    But, welcome to the internet.
     
  17. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Omark = Putz...

    Rosenthal = just as much of a Putz...
     
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  18. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    This lasts until the first game of the season, at which point its "SUPERBOOOWWWLLLLLL" up until the skins are eliminated. 106.7 has folks who have careers doing nothing but second guessing the Redskins.
     
  19. Paul 13

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    is there a link?
     
  20. schmolioot

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    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/pete-prisco/22873559/dolphins-camp-observations

     
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  21. phinnhedd

    phinnhedd Reality.

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    Despite local media columnists attempt at creating a negative hyperbolic-circlejerk, the NFL Network has shone a pretty bright light upon the Dolphins. They actually covered the team today and Warren Sapps' narrative was somewhat exciting. It's a breath of fresh air compared to local journos and ESPN of years past.

    Sam Wyche and co from NFL AM also raved about the Dolphins as an up-and-coming team and highlighted strengths with Tannehill, Reshad Jones and giving compliments all around.

    NFL fantasy experts are talking up Lamar Miller.

    People are very respectful of our head coach and Jeff Ireland has gained respect in the last couple seasons after a bad first impression.

    All is looking up so I can stand local guys trying to temper expectations, but, sometimes they just go a little too far as Omar Kelly has in the past few years so I stopped listening to him altogether.
     
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  22. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    Tampa is a homer market from what I can tell.
     
  23. ckparrothead

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    Change the name from Ryan Tannehill to Aaron Rodgers and you have almost word for word Merrill Hoge's entire analysis on why Brian Brohm will overtake Aaron Rodgers in 2008.

    The irony of his criticism is when he talks about Ryan Tannehill failing to anticipate a receiver coming open at the second level and checking down, and then he talks about Tannehill needing to "be more decisive with his reads and make quicker decisions"...he's contradicting himself. When you throw it to the check down instead of waiting for the second level player to get open, you ARE being decisive and making quick reads. The problem is your reads are too quick and you're being too decisive.

    But a lot of this is a failure on the part of the observer to really see things in real time. Defensive players are not playing blind. Most of them have their eye out for the football and if they don't have their eye on the football directly then they have their eyes on a player who probably does have their eyes on the football, looking for signs of what that player is seeing. The biggest thing you hear out of observers is "so and so" was open, even though if you did a hyper-accurate analysis of the play's progression through time, you see that space was only created by the defense as it reacted to the quarterback's intentions. If the quarterback uses the defense's reaction by changing his intentions (say he turns a throw into a fake, resets and turns to throw elsewhere), then that takes time...time which may or may not be afforded to you by your offensive line. If you're sacked while attempting to take that time, the criticism becomes that the quarterback is not decisive enough and doesn't get the football out.

    In reality, things happen so fast along the effective timeline that visible spacing is usually not an indicator that someone was open. Body leverage becomes a better indicator. If a receiver is running a streak against off coverage and the safety is not covering the top, and the corner is still flat footed as the receiver reaches a point only 3 or 4 yards away from the corner, that receiver is now open. Freeze the frame and he doesn't look it because the corner is still 3 or 4 yards over top of him. But the body leverage and vectors tell you he's open.

    On the other hand if the corner is back peddling and the receiver is still 3 or 4 yards away from getting with the corner, the corner could still flip his hips and easily keep the receiver bottled up. Seeing that, the quarterback may read the leverage and vectors and decide to throw it shallower, at which point the corner that was peddling will instantaneously react to the football coming out by either coming to a short stop and attempting to break hard toward the football, or slowing up and allowing the receiver to go by him. And since this all happens over maybe a second of time, Pete Prisco is looking at the streaking receiver saying, "He was open!!!"

    Anyway. My rant. Short story short, I don't trust Pete Prisco to tell me whether there was really a guy open that Tannehill could have hit but didn't anticipate.
     
  24. ckparrothead

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    I can agree with that.
     
  25. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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  26. padre31

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    That is just plain wrong, THill's legitimate problem is spotty accuracy and inexperience.

    As for 8-8, every team is 0-0 atm, have to let that play out.

    I unfollowed the guy with the sandy manpon a loong time ago, have been far happier.
     
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  27. BevoPhin

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    Omar should boycott Florida.
     
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  28. jw3102

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    Like him or not, it is his job to report what he observes at Dolphin training camp. In fact many of the local radio sport show hosts have also been reporting that Wallace and Tannehill haven't, YET, appeared to be on the same page during these practices. Hopefully they will get on the same page before the regular season starts, but you can't fault Kelly for reporting what he and many others are seeing, when it comes to the Tannehill, Wallace combo at this time.

    I'm sure if Wallace starts connecting with Tannehill, Kelly will be happy to report this also.
     
  29. djphinfan

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    This might be a case of two things, one, mike Wallace strikes me as a guy who just goes at a different speed at practice compared to games, two, he's a different type of receiver, some of his big plays that were created is when the Qb broke the pocket, both of those things require the games to actually mean something.
     
  30. DrAstroZoom

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    And don't forget his money closer: our logo is "soft." Yeah, Pete, especially compared to the terrifying cartoon dolphin with the little helmet we had heretofore.
     
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  31. ToddPhin

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    It's humorous watching these idiots attempt to create a mountain from a mole hill after 3 damn days of TC. You'd think we're in week 5 from Rosenthal's title. I've seen enough of Wallace over the past 4 years to know only a dips*** would try to raise concern about his ability to both beat corners and run after the catch after just 3 days. Morons.

    Yeah, Omar, no duh Tannehill doesn't have great chemistry w/ Wallace yet. What do you expect when transitioning from the slowest starting WR in the NFL to the fastest.

    Here, go back to the stuff that matters. You know- that actual live game stuff.
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  32. Claymore95

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    Fair enough article. He has doubts over Tannehill which, if any of us care to admit, we'll all have until he shows he can do it in the regular season. He praises Miller, Wallace & Vernon, has doubts over Martin at LT, nothing really out of left field there. The only real thing I disagree with is his opinion of the logo! His 8-8 prediction is maybe a bit pessimistic, especially if you're a Dolphins fan, but considering his yet to be convinced attitude with Tannehill, it's not unexpected.
     
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  33. GMJohnson

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    Omar's a journalist, he has a job to do people. If you're looking to him for in depth analysis then you're the moron, not him.
     
  34. ToddPhin

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    Then label me a moron for believing a sports journalist who covers football should actually be good at covering football. S*** he gets paid for it. I provide my opinion here for free and it's twice as valuable as his, and even saying that is insulting myself.
     
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    I agree, you could talk circles around Omar. There are several others here who could do the same IMO. My point is that Omar's #1 job is to generate hits and make $$$ for his employer. If he's pinpoint accurate and generates no interest, he's fired.
























































    Moron.
     
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  36. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    I think the list would be fairly long, with you of course on it too.

    Ahh, gotcha now. I misunderstood your previous post.
    Personally, I'd rather generate hits & make my employer money by becoming so knowledgable, entertaining, and good at what I do that readers feel compelled to read me, plain and simple. IMO, if you're not good enough to generate hits & make money without sacrificing integrity and instead have to resort to cheap antics, then you don't deserve to be a journalist to begin with.
     
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  37. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Why do all that when all you have to do is be a jerk?
     
  38. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    *** can we stop with the open Omar bashing? You may disagree with him about things, question his opinion with your own (bring facts though to base your opinion) but just calling him a moron is not the level of post that we prefer here. Thanks!***
     
  39. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Btw, I think Phinsational is on point here. Wallace is night and day over Bess. Hopefully, if there is some getting used to between each other, it's on its way to being solved before the season starts. Although I fear some of that will leak into the regular season and after a few games we'll see them finally jelling 100%
     
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