Not at all, if there clearly is a problem take steps now when it doesn't "count" rather hear the same crap about "the Offensive Line just needs to gel" as we lose our first two games.
The first two games are five games away. I assume he'll play a good amount in all five. Maybe if we aren't seeing any growth after the third game, we can consider our options. Until then, just let it play out.
So like, there was this tackle named Joe Toledo who was drafted by the Miami Dolphins in the 4th round back in 2006. Combining Joe Toledo with UDFA didn't make a lot of sense...
I'm not getting to excited about Vern and Dion sacks and pressures yet, not with Martin being the main comp..need to see where martins level is before we know what Jordan and co are dealing with.
I don't know how many, and I'm not sure it really matters. It's not a normal occurrence regardless, if there is a context for it we'll know and if there isn't we'll see something to indicate it. It's not a matter for this kind of hyperbole, really. Neither this coaching staff nor this front office plays favorites according to draft/contract status, and it should be pretty clear at this point. Also, Joe Toledo is an actual former Dolphins players name, and not an UDFA- Hence it not making sense.
The problem then becomes..his competition would not have nearly as many reps, this is why imo a decision to have him compete would have to made sooner rather than later. To be clear, I'm not 100% in favor of demoting Martin, do think his level of performance warrants it.
I agree. 3% is what pro bodybuilders have during a competition. They would not even consider maintaining that BF % all the time. Just the fat that protects your internal organs gives one 3% body fat.
There's much better ways to gain weight than eating that pure junk food garbage. Do they sell even one product that isn't loaded with GMO? Maybe their plain ice tea or their black coffee.
Before being concerned about the drops, it would be nice to see each play. The drops may have been much tougher chances that still fall within the parameters for a drop, but to have caught it would have been a great play. The 3 picks may have been relatively easier chances.
Not a coincidence at all. All his college highlights on YouTube show the same thing: him absolutely locking people down in the redzone, like, totally draped all over guys wherever they went. This is actually what made him my favorite pick of this draft. His physical tools really shine when you focus on the smaller field situations, and made me think we got really nice value. I remember a few plays LaTech ran specifically for Patton in the endzone and Davis was just in is pocket the whole way; same thing happened in other games as well.
I understand there is no need to panic YET (and I'm not), but why sit around and assume for no reason that Martin is gonna be "fine"? The Dolphins better get proactive reallllll soon if they are as concerned as some us fans are. This (potential) problem was seen from a mile away. Philbin himself said (paraphrasing) that an o lineman can't block 80% of the players in front of them, they need to block 100% of them. I don't feel like Philbin is ok with giving Martin help damn near every time he pass protects. I hope they dont feel like emotionally nurturing, encouraging and acting as if none of this is cause for concern is going to snap him into a legit LT like some of us are. Come up with a plan.....now. Of course I don't have the answer (so dont ask) and I also don't know what goes on in private meetings...so maybe they are. I just don't see why some are being criticized for expressing an unsettling feeling just because its "early" or it is "unrealistic game scenarios" where all these sacks and hurries are happening. I too liken it to last year when we all knew the team had no weapons at WR. I had a major problem with Ireland doing nothing about it via FA or the Draft. Only this time we don't have the luxury to just throw away a season for development. We need to start the winning process now! Most fans won't wait forever.....even though I will
Martin deserves to be demoted now? For who exactly? It's not like we don't have other lineman playing LT in practice, nor is it like the staff doesn't watch every practice snap multiple times. If the coaches think there is a better or potentially better option to give 1st team reps to, they will. We haven't even played a PS game yet and still 5 weeks to the regular season. Let's see him fail when it counts before running around like all is lost. And not only was Joe Toledo not a UDFA, but ability was not his problem, it was staying healthy. Having a UDFA play like Joe Toledo would be quite good IMO.
Judging Martin’s play based on tweets seems kind of silly. I’d like to know whether the QB was sacked in 2 seconds or after 5 seconds for example. What was the defensive front? Any stunts? What protection did the QB call? Are Jordan and Vernon switching every couple of plays? Way too many variables to make a fair evaluation at this point.
Sorry Mr C, I thought you were setting up the joke for somebody - the quote is from the movie Jaws, not from Ron Jaworski. Bruce is the name of the mechanical shark(s) used in the movie.
It's been years since I saw the movie. Only saw it once, and have not seen any back story shows about the making of the movie.
Honestly if Jon Martin plays like this in the preseason game I would indeed consider giving Dallas Thomas some time with the 1's to see if he can do better. Never thought I'd say that.
Not necessarily, sometimes coaches stay married to a player so to speak and don't seriously look at other options. ATM, there is no one even trying to compete with him. I've heard this every yr since 07. Did he wind up playing a single down in the NFL? Larger point, which was missed, if some damn UDFA was our starting LT, and getting beaten like a drum, does anyone really think they'd simply keep trotting him out there to get his *** kicked over and over and then stick with him?
I think the whole concern about the O-line shuffling in general is overblown especially coming on the heels of a season where the Ravens were tweaking their line up to the post-season. IIRC they switched three lineman either right before or right after the playoffs started.
Will Davis...sure does have the personality to be a star, what an enngaging young man... There some highlights of his practice today up.. Comes down with one on a deep ball that's slightly overthrown but he had to high point the ball away from the defender and came down with it, and he did. There's also a drill shown where you really can see why he was the at the top in the combine for his cone..wow, lighting change of direction.. Just a great personality...he's feelin himself that for sure, lets hope he gets challenged to take his tackling fundamentals and aggression in doing so as seriously as his coverage work.. Liked the pick when it happened, enjoyed watching a lot of his reps in college, I really recommend watching the whole game against Patton closely if you wanna see his strengths, his superior confidence, and his mental lapses.
1. The documentary about the making of Jaws is highly entertaining. 2. I like the idea of Jaws on one side of our line, and the Kraken on the other.
Yup. Very reasonable to wait until at least a single game has been played. If he can't man up in the first 2 make the switch or work the phones and make a move.
It's an interesting question, I wonder sometimes if it is a conscious decision or a lack of gear problem.. Some notes post combine.. "The kid has 2nd round talent... I think it's hilarious to hear Mccshay talk about how Patton schooled Davis during their matchup. Anyone who watches every rep in that game would never tell you that it was one sided..it was obvious that Davis completely shut out Patton in the first half, he was hyped, he was on his toes, was fiery, and no one was getting anything on him, to the point where pattons coaches moved him to the other side so he could get his first catch, and he did. When Idaho was up 21/28 points most of the 2nd half, their coaches put that defense in a prevent, and Patton tore it up..Davis lost his mojo..but when the game was at its most competitive,Mano e Mano, Davis was dominant..I don't know what happened at the senior bowl, but maybe the kid has a problem staying motivated idk." I thought he showed real good focus at the combine which is something I look for, was as hard on him as anyone in terms of how he played the run, and I'll be the first to say, a corner who doesn't play the run is not usually my style, but there was somethin about his coverage ability and swagger that made me give him that 2nd round grade. Him flashing this early is awesome cause I really like Jamar Taylor as well.
Impossible. You would be dead at 4% body fat. Even if he has a "fast" metabolism, it's still not possible. A fast metabolism is maybe 3-5% higher than normal. Hardly significant. It's more of a myth given the context in which people use the expression. And to echo what others have said, having a really low body fat % *like 5-7% is usually quite unhealthy. Hormonally, your body is in a state of panic. Even bodybuilders who get down to 5-6% can't maintain that weight year round. They cut fat gradually to get that number and once the competition is over, immediately add 3-4% of their bodyfat back within a week. The body absorbs calories and stores them as fat to protect itself. DJ is likely around 7-8%, which isn't that worrisome.
Seriously guys ... is it Martin really sucks, making Jordan/Vernon damn good, or the other way around. Just maybe Jordan is THAT good thus will make most, if not all LT's suck. Because if the other way is true and Martin really sucks then the Jordan/Vernon we hope we have just may be another fluke of Phins TC. Can't have it both ways.
We hope that but based on previous history it is hard to few that as the explanation. However we'll see where we stand over the next three preseason games regarding Martin. I am going to guess he plays a good amount compared to the rest of the starters on Sunday.
Are we maybe spoiled a bit after having a premier LT for the last few years? Most teams in the league (like raf said) don't have some all-pro-amazing LT and they come out fine. We are going to spread out, and get rid of the football, we can scheme to cover some weaknesses on the left side if needed. Hopefully this guy just turns it on and starts playing better, its only practice, he can only get better going against our front 7.
I went back and read some of his scouting information from college. He was moved down because of a disappointing pro day but I'm still hoping he can be a decent LT.
