Hyde: Everything is at stake for Ireland, Philbin and Tannehill

How many of those average teams have starting caliber 7.53 oline starters?

 

Not many admittedly, I think most experts will agree that the NFL has a shortage of quality offensive lineman. I'm not concerned with everyone else however, only with our state of affairs. It's an issue for this team, when were not even sure about the 5 we have starting. I can't wait for Jerry to get back in the fold, that will help.

 

I think you guys are taking iron-fist too literal. At least for me, that is not how I perceived it. Hyde exaggerates to clarify. A writer needs a little flair sometimes especially in an opinion piece. It's just a different medium for theatrics. To me iron-fist meant no bs. Don't curse in my news conferences. Don't divulge injuries without my ok. Don't come into my office talkin bout chu got some senior players club. I run this house. Who's house? Runs house! Doesn't mean he yells. It's just like that! And that's the way it is.

Gimme my props for the lyrical accompaniment of oldies but goldies.

Btw we've all seen him behind the sceens so, like back in the day, on the multiple choice test of Hydes discription for comparison you can cross out Saban by process of elimination

 

I think they've both looked good. I see our secondary as a strength.

 

The point is, if pretty much every team has the same worries, then it shows we aren't deficient in that area. If we aren't deficient in that area, then they're not really blatant holes.

We have 3 Pro Bowlers on a 5 man line as it stands right now. That is significant. Our secondary is vastly improved, with Pro Bowl Grimes, 2nd rd pick Jamar Taylor and INT machine Davis coming up behind two other solid vets. Our receiving corps have been DRAMATICALLY upgraded and has a Pro Bowl WR at the 1 & 2 spots & Brandon Gibson who catches virtually nothing but TDs and 1st dns at the 3 spot. Our defensive line will be at worst, as good as it was last year, which was stellar...but it will most likely be better.

This gnashing of teeth seems to be a habit based on years of futility because its not really based in the now. Things are not really bad in Dolphin land right now....in fact they're quite good.

 

What if we have a situation where RT plays better than last year and we finish say 6-10, losing a lot of close games? Do you move on? I could see a situation where we might let Ireland go and have Philibin work with Ross to find a GM they can all work with but if we have a disaster of a season and RT takes a step back I could see a house cleaning.

 

Truer words have yet been written. Its almost comfortable and its definitely safe. No high expectations, no lowly heartbreaks.

Can't agree, wont agree with the rest. Yes, the habbit is strong with this one (me) but it definitely ain't the sparkling sterling forget silver linning we've got silverware and we're ready to eat mark up of your stat sheet there.

Yes, on paper/way you wrote it- sounds amazing. Will it get lost in translation? This is where we as fans can deside to go neg. or pos. i empathize with the former and want to be more like the latter.

And does any of it even matter without the QB?

 

Would be much easier for Ross if the team had an easier schedule early. Give Ireland a contract extension after the first five games. Jeff Ireland's job from now until the end of the season is largely preparing for next off season. Letting a GMs contract expire isn't very common.

Also keep in mind that the Miami Dolphins clearly have an internal salary cap to a certain degree. They also have Dawn Aponte who clearly has some control. This makes it a job that isnt for everyone.

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I'm a big Philbin fan. He was my first choice when most of the board was pining for Cowher, Gruden or Fisher. And I've been critical of Ireland although that's diminished since Parcells left. But reality is that people want to bring in people they know and are comfortable with. Are there exceptions? Sure, but they're called exceptions b/c they don't usually happen. And as I stated earlier, I think 9-7 probably saves everybody. 8-8 or 7-9 might let everybody stay for another year depending on the circumstances (like key injuries, for example). 6-10 or worse probably gets everybody fired. I don't see it as likely that there's any scenario where Ireland is fired and Philbin is retained. And even if he is, it is most likely as a lame duck while the new GM waits for "his" guy to become available. So yes, I would say it's naive to think that the far-fetched scenario is likely to happen here.

 

Dawn Aponte too, and maybe even more so. Does a prospective GM want a job where there's an other executive with control over things affecting the football side? Do they want another executive that is talking to their head coach daily?

A new GM would have to be willing to accept a unique situation.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they eliminated GM all together, while having Aponte as one VP and Brian Gaine VP of player personnel.

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I also think that its very possible Ireland leaves after this season, because Aponte has more power than he likes.

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Let the man sweat out his contract. You brought the proposal to your boss. He told you to run with it. Heres your chance to make partner (ive heard that saying in many movies can any big shots in here confirm its actual usage?). The work is in. Preliminary reports show a swaying derivative. You gotta sweat it out.

 

If thats the case and we go 10-6 make the playoffs i guess according to some then Philbin and THill are gone too. because a new GM will want "his" HC and "his" QB.

Right?

 

Expectations for an "owner" are not philosophical- get a$$es in the seats. You gotta love the simplicity of the thing.

The question lies in the complexity of the fan. What will get you to blow a sizable chunk of change for consistant attendance in the house that Robbie built?

Me? Give me 6-10 all day (for this season really) if i am seeing an offense that can put up 40+ a game. Im not talking about take aways and field position or whatnot. Sure, a little help but an honest 40+, ima get a ticket to the show.

Crucify me if you wish. Winning is all that counts, doesn't matter how you do it right? Nah, man. Wrong philosophy. We made the playoffs for how many years on our stellar run, 11 straight? It occured to me the other day, whilst i was pondering my depressingly profound loss of passion for my father's bond and birthright fandom of my longed beloved Dolphins, it wasn't the playoffs we were buying tickets to go see. Hell, who knows about the playoffs come openning day? It was Dan the Man, baby.

Dan Marino is just a player, he's more to us now obviously because the gifts he gave us can't be bought, only blessed. But if Dan had become a Viking late in his career, early in his career; would you have followed Dan? We the Dolphins, not the Dans. But Dan Marino represented magic. There is no other way to define it. The man was magic. And that rollercoaster/butterfly feeling in your stomach on those final drives were magic. And the mere drive to Robbie was magic. And the pizza? A personal pan from dominoes never tasted like magic outside of that universe. And the magic of one of those beautifully thrown footballs where you learned things can grace into slow motion just like in a movie. The magic of a heart-breaking loss because the magic will be back next Sunday. And the magic, the magic, the magic.

And the magic is lost, my friends. That bright-eyed and bushy-tailed boy is gone and its not because I'm getting old or because we are not winning. I can't feel it anymore. Whats more, i cant give it to my boy anymore. He doesn't feel it. The kid lives and breathes football and i can't get an honest smile out him during a game. Bring back the magic. Give me a 6-10 season where i go home thinking, knowing- next year its 10-6 easy. Did you see Tanne throw for 400 with 4 tds? Did you see Miller rush for 206? Did you see Wallace's miracle catch to win the game? Bring back the magic. You've got my big a$$ in the seat.

 

boy you're really throwing around this term loosely aren't you...hartline never has and never will be a pro bowler, if he was I don't think anyone would've taken issue with the contract we gave him. Pouncey isn't one either. Clabo made it a couple years back in his younger days but who knows if he ever reaches that level again.

 

Hartline was a pro bowl alternate last season. Regardless of whether that makes him an official pro bowl player or not, he obviously had a pretty good season. Really the only difference between his alternate status and officially being in the pro bowl was who made the SB. If the Pats had made the game then Hartline would have replaced Welker. But I'm sure the same people would have complained about his contract regardless.

The distinction is largely artificial anyways. I don't believe that Hartline is one of the top 5 or 6 WRs in the conference. However, I do believe that our Pouncey is the best C. So I find it ridiculous to quibble about the labels. Reality is that there are many good to very good players on the team as FinD pointed out.

 

Its the close games that defines playoff team or sat at home. Hope Sturgis can make the difference when it comes to close games. Our Defense will keep a lot of games close this season.

 

Wes Welker didn't play anyway, Demaryius Thomas was the 1st alternate so he replaced him. Decker was the 2nd alternate. literally 3 guys would've had to call out for him to make it. And now that he isn't the first option in the passing game anymore, he won't sniff a PB or alternate spot.

 

Wow! So you're saying that Hartline was voted one of the best 10 or so WRs in the conference? And he's our #2 WR this year?

 

Hartline doesn't have pro bowl talent, he doesn't even have alternate selection talent...he was an alternate last year because Ireland was foolishly thought it was a good idea for him to be our #1 WR so he got #1 WR opportunities and put up 1,000 yards.

 

Being selected as a pro bowl alternate directly contradicts your claim. Getting the opportunities is is a prerequisite for every player so that is hardly damning. It does seem to support my theory that some people would criticize signing Hartline regardless of whether he had played in the pro bowl or not.