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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Ohio Fanatic, Aug 17, 2013.

  1. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I thought going to the three WRs with Gibson was a good response and that Gibson played well.
     
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  2. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    Probably, but that doesn't mean that he should. It just means that the Dolphins are now stuck with a very mediocre group of TE's and Egnew happens to be the most mediocre of all. Hopefully Sims can step up his play and become the starting TE. I just don't think Egnew has what it takes to be a quality TE in the NFL.
     
  3. PhinishLine

    PhinishLine Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Intention doesn't cover bad form. You don't have to intentionally do something stupid to still wind up doing something stupid. Yeah, it was a mistake on his part, but a mistake in instantly ending someones season an possibly career because you lack the awareness to 1) Recognize...its a preseason game bro and 2) Going at a mans legs is a nono, regardless of intent.

    And I don't blame Goodell for the rules. I'd get tired of suicide notes being left for me and lawsuit after lawsuit too. Don't blame me for ruining your life then expect us not to take action. They wanted change...well here is their change. What did they expect to happen? Increased pensions? Fat chance.

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  4. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    stupid to write stuff like that or better look for one of those jeff ireland sucks thread, they are everywhere
     
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  5. SICK

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    This is going to happen more and more thanks to commissioner kid gloves. Why risk a 15 yd penalty and fine when you can just blow up a dudes knee?! Acls are easier to fix than brain damage.

    Honestly that's the truth. If he was anywhere near hitting Keller in the chest even, a flag would've been thrown and he might've been fined. Now? He has a season ending injury on his conscious, that's it. And it will not be the last time this happens.
     
  6. BlameItOnTheHenne

    BlameItOnTheHenne Taking a poop

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    Of course. He could have used better judgement, but I don't believe he is happy that he knocked someone out for possibly an entire season.
     
  7. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'd maybe consider believing him if he got Keller's name right...

    I just dont get why he went that low. Such a stupid, careless play.
     
  8. Ducken

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    Come on man that is not needed, You can say what you have to say with out trowing insults around.
     
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  9. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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  10. Ducken

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    This is going to be such a big loss for the team. We still have 2 more games to see who if any of other TEs will step up and grab the bull by the horns. I really hope all 3 have that kinda fire and drive to grab them horns.
     
  11. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Not a good throw by Tannehill.
     
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  12. Ducken

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    Why not DJ?
     
  13. finwin

    finwin Active Member

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    High and behind on a 9 yard out pattern. His ball placement on this type of throw is consistnatly suckish.
     
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  14. djphinfan

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    Well, he made Keller do a 180 on the play reaching back for the ball, took him off his route which was to get around the edge where Wallace could come up and seal that edge..the throw destroyed the plays concept, and unfortunately a very valuable player to this offense, but , bad throws happen, is what it is DK.
     
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  15. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    It wasn't dirty, those type of hits happen all the time. Your taught to go low. Feel bad for Keller, but you know this can happen when you sign the contract.
     
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  16. Ducken

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    Thanks guys. I have zero eye for that kinda stuff.
     
  17. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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  18. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    This you are going to see Miami's defense make this same tackle multiple times this year....probably hundreds...
     
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  19. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    You'll see defenders go low a thousand times every season. Hate to see anybody get hurt, but it's part of the game.
     
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  20. invid

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    Looked like a dirty hit to me, not an illegal one, but an unneeded one.

    Sucks.
     
  21. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    Need to see another angle, but it almost looks like the first contact was to Kellers side of the thigh and then slid down.
     
  22. inFINSible

    inFINSible Bad ministrator

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    if the throw would have been on target it most likely would have been no big deal that Swearinger went low on the tackle. If he catches it in stride Swearinger takes his legs out on a routine tackle.

    Tannehil's fault then, some, but it took a split second foot plant coupled with a hit right at that split second to really do the trick. Just football's bad luck mostly.
     
  23. Sumlit

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    IMO if that throw was leading Keller instead of behind like it was, Swearinger intercepts or at the very least, knocks it down. He had a beat on the ball if the throw was infront of Keller. I think the throw went where it was supposed to.
     
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  24. PhinishLine

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    I cant blame Tanny. He threw it where the defender wasnt.
     
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  25. Alex13

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    well in regard to what happened, i take the pick, let it even be a pick 6 for ****ing sake´s
     
  26. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    I don't think it's a blame Tannehill thing... it's just pointing out the throw wasn't accurate. I'd hope everyone on the board can understand that and react accordingly, in a positive manner.
     
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  27. Sumlit

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    Well yeah, hindsight being 20/20. However I don't think he missed the throw. He put it where he wanted to because of Swearingers position he had a better play on the ball if the throw was leading instead of behind.
     
  28. finwin

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    NO WAY he intercepts that ball if it's on target. He's 4 yards away when the ball is in Keller's hands. If this was an accuracy drill where they throw the ball into moving rings, he would have missed the target by 3 feet. This play was probably practiced 30 times in camp
     
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  29. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    Well Paul with all due respect, the comment is still silly. If the intention was not to put some blame on Tannehill, then why make the comment. You cannot be sure if it was a bad throw or not, you're not Tannehill or Keller to know for sure. What other possible outcome do you expect from a comment like that?

    Not accusing you or anyone of anything, just saying the comment is unnecessary.
     
  30. MikeHoncho

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    This a joke?
     
  31. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    Swearinger has more momentum than Keller, if that ball is leading, he definitely has a play on the ball, at least he can very easily knock the pass down.

    But this discussion is really silly, we're now so despondent that we're playing the blame game and we're looking to over-analyse this play beyond the realms of rationality.


    It was just an unfortunate thing, lets just leave it at that. Please.
     
  32. MikeHoncho

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    Career ending head injury (not life-threatening or maiming). Dudes who "tackle" like that shouldn't be in the game anyway.
     
  33. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    No worries... I just disagree with you. And I'm a huge Tannehill supporter. For the love of God I want him to be the answer. It's not about that here though. Look at the pass... if it were Moore or Devlin, we'd have to say it was behind him too.

    EDIT, Tannehill could have led Keller perfectly and the defender could have still taken out his knee... Look at the throw in a vacuum. Don't see it as a causation for the injury.
     
  34. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    Yeah you have an argument. I cannot prove or disprove your point. I'm just saying those comments are unnecessary. They add nothing and really invite all sorts of flame by those less rational individuals.

    Again I'm not singling you out or anyone else, just commenting on the general comment and message.
     
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  35. inFINSible

    inFINSible Bad ministrator

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    If you're talking about my comment, you're somewhat missing the point. As I see many people laying the blame on Swearinger for the low hit, I simply pointed out that a more accurate throw would have kept Keller from being in such a vulnerable position. So... IF.... there is blame to be spread at least spread it accurately. Although my conclusion was that it was simply a bad set of circumstances that resulted in an unfortunate injury so, in my case I did NOT put blame on anyone.

    Whether an accurate throw would have been intercepted or knocked down has nothing to do with what happened... because it's not what happened.
     
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  36. Sumlit

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    Well this is just conjecture, because if we're doing "ifs, coulds and buts" I could come out and say that a throw you would have deemed "accurate" in that situation, could have also resulted in a lower body hit and a blown knee.

    Also I'm not missing the point. My point was the comment was unnecessary because it adds nothing, and certainly opens up the door for misinterpretations and whole lots of ugly.

    Thirdly, like I said, I wasn't singling anyone out. I was just talking about the comment in general.
     
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  37. Larryfinfan

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    As much as it sucks for Keller and our team, I don't see that as a cheap shot or intentional...he's a 210 pd SS trying to tackle a 270 pd TE who's on the run...He unfortunately hit Keller just as he planted his foot, turning himself back up field... Still sucks for both Keller and the Fins, but it's just one of those things.

    Clay, Egnew and Sims have no choice but to step it up... Wonder if this will improve the Tanny to Gibson connections...he can be our WW if they develop that chemistry...
     
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  38. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Problem is, if Tanny puts that ball on his other shoulder, it gives Swearinger a better opportunity for an INT....The throw was really where it had to be. He was just hit just as he planted to twist his body back up field... Unfortunate is the only explanation...
     
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  39. inFINSible

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    I disagree, I think the placement of the throw, from a quarterback with accuracy issues, is a valid question when discussing contributing factors to the injury.
    I also think that an accurate throw, I'm sorry, a throw that keeps the receiver moving forward, or at least doesn't spin him around, is completed easily with way less chance of an injury to the knee.
     
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  40. Paul 13

    Paul 13 Chaotic Neutral & Unstable Genius Staff Member

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    Hopefully the comments won't get out of hand :yes:
     
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