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Discussion in 'Fantasy Football' started by Fin-Omenal, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Standard League w/ big play bonuses n Return Yds.

    I'm kinda meh about my team, I wanted Spiller badly but the guy before me snatched him up.


    Cam Newton
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    R. Bush
    D. Wilson
    Calvin Johnson
    Julio Jones
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  2. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Only really weak spot I see if TE. If Rob Housler or Jared Cook are available Id snatch one up. i think they both finish as top 10 TE's because they have QB's who can get them the ball...not so sure I feel that way about Cameron. Housler was a top 10 guy the last 8 weeks of last year with terrible qb's. If its a PPR league then your backs are stronger then in non ppr. QB and WR are absolute strengths. Cam was the 2nd highest scoring player at any position once they fired their OC and went back to putting him under center.
     
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  3. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    You should totally pick up Percy Harvin and Dustin Keller....in every league you're in......
     
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  4. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I have a 12 team ppr 3 rr draft next sunday. A 3rr draft is basically when the first 2 round go in regular snake style fashion but the team picking 12th also gets the first pick of round 3 to decrease the advantage that 1st overall gets..and yes statistically speaking 1st overall is still the most advantageous draft position with the highest percentage of leagues won being won by the team drafting 1st. I know this is going to be a strong league as everyone there is going to be competitive and knows their stuff hence why Im looking for any advantage I can get.

    I know I have 1st pick so that will be AP. Any ideas how I should approach this? I havent had a 1st overall pick in a football league in 5+ years. I then have 24, 48 and 49 and then 72 and 73. Best way to build?
     
  5. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    You almost have to grab one of the best available RBs on the board IMO cause they'll be gone by your next pick unless you want to take a flier on Richardson or Mendenhall. Unless you get lucky as hell and a WR or Graham drop that far. But WR and TE (after Graham...dont trust Gronks health) is pretty deep this year IMO. I hardly ever take QB's in the first 3 rounds.
     
  6. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Ok..here goes. 10 team league..standard scoring. I Picked 3 overall

    CJ Spiller
    Chris Johnson
    Stevan Ridley
    Wes Welker
    Montae Bell
    Hakim Nicks
    Piere Garcon
    James Jones
    Deandre Hopkins
    Kyle Rudolph
    Big Ben
    Ryan Broyles
    Ryan Tannehill
    Zach Sudfeld
    Caleb Sturgis
    Miami D

    QB by commitee based on matchup

    Start
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    2 wr
    1 flex rb/wr/te
    1 te
    1 k
    1 d

    Fgs are worth 5 50 plus...so went homer there...lol
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  7. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Richardson or Graham are dreams im not banking on. I like Richardson a lot. More then the average person for sure. Graham went top 20 last year. Im feeling Newton a lot at that spot but I know I shouldn't go qb there. I think Forte may slide there because a lot of people hate forte in this league. After megatron and marshall I think cobb or fitz may be the best choices there.
     
  8. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Your skill positions are excellent. Your qbs from a fantasy perspective are bad. Ben has played 16 games just 1x and had 3600 passing just 2x and he just lost wallace and miller is still rehabing an acl. Hes an ok at best backup in fantasy. So basically youre depending on Tannehill throwing for 4k and 25td. It could happenand I hope it does but as much as I love Tannehill im not betting my fantasy season on him.
     
  9. ToddPhin

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    You obviously gotta go RB with your first 2 picks if at all possible since the pickings will be slim to none at the end of round 3.

    Then at 48 & 49 when the backs are massively depleted you should still have a bevy of strong receivers to choose from, unless a back luckily falls that far- in which case it wouldn't be a terrible decision to go RB-RB-RB with your first three picks.

    If it were me I'd use those rounds I pick first in as an opportunity to manipulate the draft and get ahead of the curve for certain positions- QB, TE, and DEF..... and hopefully by doing so it gets a run started on those positions so that there's more left elsewhere during my next pick. For instance, in ThePhins league I was picking early in the 5th round so I knew I could bet heavily on one of my two targeted value QBs being there (Stafford or Romo); however if my pick was at the end of the 5th I would've had to either take them in the 4th, grab Brady who I knew was there in the 3rd, or wait till later on and take one of the last QBs available.
     
  10. vt_dolfan

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    Yeh...I actually have a waiver request to get Josh Freeman. My hope..is that between who.ever I have at.Qb..I.can play the right.matchup...or one of my bench skill players will pan out and make a trade. Seemed.easier to adjust and work with the qb position during the season..then RB. Starting CJ Spill..Chris Johnson..and having Stevan Ridley in the flex seemed the better option at the time then taking a Qb in the 4th or 5th. If Bell pans out...could be tough to beat

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  11. ToddPhin

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    That's smart. He's likely your best bet.
     
  12. ToddPhin

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    IMO Graham is fools gold when picking first overall in a 3RR draft if he happens to be there at 24. The TE advantage you'd gain by landing Graham at 24 would be given right back by the running backs available at 48. Then from there you'll be left chasing those 2nd and 3rd backs which will likely cost you BPA picks in the process. IMO the natural flow for you is RB-RB-WR-WR.... or RB-RB-RB-WR.
     
  13. vt_dolfan

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    I Agree...Id even take two more RBs, if you use the flex..putting a stud rb like Ridley as your 3rd back could be huge. 12 man league though...might be tough


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  14. 305

    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    You know I was referring to Daryl right? lol He will probably be around. Cobbs injury sounds jacked up still, talking about how he's going to have pain all year. Fitz is a low risk guy I like, but not in your format for giving up on the rest of the RBs... If Forte is there, its a no brainer IMO
     
  15. Boik14

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    Completely forgot about Daryl actually :(



    Its an interesting idea. Im really hoping Graham falls to me for that reason. I would take my chances I can get a David Wilson or a Daryl Richardson in round 3. I do like Stafford a lot. He threw the ball 727 times last year, 36 more then anyone else in NFL history. NO way he gets only 20td again

    You should roll with Freeman and see if you cant poach Vick or Schaub. Vick could have a big year and at least make for a decent rotation QB with Freeman. Schaub has 4000 yards in 3 of the last 4 years and still managed 520+ pass attempts last year so its not as run heavy an offense as people want it to be.

    I disagree. Even if I got stuck with a below par RB like a Darren Sproles (PPR league), Deangelo Williams (Jonathan Stewart is expected to miss at least the first few weeks)or a Darren McFadden the difference between Graham and a league average TE is going to be more then a below average RB and an average RB.
     
  16. ToddPhin

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    I had Stafford & LeShoure last year so I watched a lotta Lions ball to say the least. Lost track of how often either Calvin or a quick pass/dump off was stopped just shy of the goal line, enough times that there should be a regression to the mean this year. It certainly helped LeShoure's rushing TD total and all of Detroit's extra FGs. Not to mention Stafford had dog sh** to throw to outside of Calvin thanks to an onslaught of injuries at WR/TE, therefore besides the chemistry and rhythm being out of whack, when their offense within scoring range, opposing defenses could afford to throw the kitchen sink at Calvin. Now with everyone back.. plus Reggie Bush.. forgetaboutit.

    Reggie could have a monster year just from check downs alone, and Scott Linehan is moving him around like mad- using him nearly as much as a slot receiver as a running back.

    It's a risk, but I guess it could pay off well if the cards fall the right way. I personally would be apprehensive about the potential trickle down affect involved, including having to wait until pick #48 for my #2 RB, then at #49 facing the dilemma of either taking a WR and foregoing a 3rd RB or taking a 3rd RB and not getting my 1st WR until pick #72. Whomever is picking at the tail end of round 1 is in an ideal spot to take Graham since they'll have the top of round 3 to take another RB so it's probably pipe dream like you said to think about Graham.
     
  17. BevoPhin

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    I went RB heavy.Matt stafford/EJ ManuelDoug Martin/Matt Forte/Frank GoreRandall cobb/Torrey SmithGRONK (5th round)CardinalsPraterBench:Ty hilton/Hakeem Nicks/Tavon AustinFred Jackson/Daniel ThomasJermichael Finley.Got some elite rbs, solid sleepers, best tight end at a bargain, and a qb that throws 700 times. And a small chance ej goes rg3.I rolled the dice on Ap last year so hopefully gronk can be that guy this year.
     
  18. Fin-Omenal

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    If Fitz is there that's a very good pick IMO.
     
  19. Boik14

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    Lions wrs were tackled 23x inside the 5 last year, most in the league by far. Stafford will hit 30td imo. very strong pick in a 4th or 5th round. Always said I would use Reggie as a COP back give him 8-10 carries running and another 4-7 catches. You need someone to be thunder for his lightning.

    My biggest apprehension is reaching for a back in round 2. I can tell you right now the top 16 backs will be gone in the 23 picks before my round 2. In this league its very likely Megatron, Graham, Julio, Brees, Rodgers, and 2 other wr's will go (presumably Johnson and Cobb, Cruz or Fitz). Thats been the pattern in the last 7 years of this league. 1 or 2 newbs shouldnt change much.

    If I go RB it will probably be because MJD, Forte or Trent Rich fell...i.e. a nontimeshare back who has history and/or potential. I think thats the direction Im leaning. Of course ill probably change my mind 48 more times between now and 830pm sunday. :lol:
     
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  20. JDelenne

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    I've been doing a lot of Mock drafts and I can't decide how I want to draft, What would you guys do if you had the #1 pick in the PPR draft.. Obvisouly AP but what about picks 24,25 then 48,49

    I'm pretty torn If I want to take 2 WR's back to back like Julio Jones/Demaryius Thomas or take 1 WR and Jimmy Graham, or WR/RB like MJD since I feel the RB choices are really thin this year while WR is loaded.

    Most of my Mocks have ended up like:
    AP
    Julio Jones
    D. Thomas
    Lamar Miller/Lacy
    D. Bowe

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    AP
    Julio Jones
    Jimmy Graham
    Matt Ryan
    Lamar Miller/Eddie Lacy

    What do you guys think..

    Also do you think taking Reggie at 25 is too high? I think he's gonna have a monster year PPR wise.. though I think Leshore will vulture a lot of goal line touches.
     
  21. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    2nd one. Graham is a huge positional advantage. You think you can make it up elsewhere but you cant. Its like having a good SS and 2B in baseball...position scarcity. You can find wr's and backs pop up. TE's dont pop up.
     
  22. JDelenne

    JDelenne Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Thats what I was leaning toward really.. Espicially with the WR Depth out there i've been trying to target Tayvon Austin, TY Hilton, DeAndre Hopkins in the later rounds..
     
  23. Boik14

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    Actually one player I saw slip in both drafts Ive done was DeSean Jackson going around 75-80. he should overperform that draft slot. That puts him in the middle of round 7 in a 12 team draft. IMO he should have 1200 total yards (receiving and rushing). I dont think Tavon is a player you target unless a league counts return yards. Hes not teh best wr on that team yet...Givens is the Ram to target. Hopkins is the best rookie wr imo.
     
  24. Fin-Omenal

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    I would think AJ Green and Dez are taken before Andre, Cruz, Fitz, Cobb and even Julio.
     
  25. Boik14

    Boik14 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    True. I was thinking off the top of my head. That'll teach me to think. :nutkick:
     
  26. Fin-Omenal

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    Very much agree with Desean Jackson, if he stays healthy he's going to have a monster year.
     
  27. bojack72

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    Qb romo
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    Eddie lacie
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    B. Pierce
    D. Thomas
    Wr
    Dez Bryant
    Julio Jones
    E. Decker
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    Let me know your opinions
     
  28. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    I just got the #1 pick....hate it....anyways PPR league....

    gotta go AP no? is there anybody else to consider?
     
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    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Why do you hate it man.... there's a lot of talent available at that position? Ive been doing a lot of mocks from the 1st spot, but not in a PPR. Had a lot of them with CJ2K, Graham, SJackson, MJD, Ridley, and sometimes one of the 2nd tier WR's available but I normally wait till next rounds to go with Colston, Nicks, Bowe, etc. But yeah, I say AP no doubt.

    Edit: 10 man leagues though... not sure what youre in.
     
  30. Boik14

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    AP. Foster would be a consideration if he was healthy but hes not and may not be ready for week 1.
     
  31. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I was in a 12 team PPR league with the #1 pick. I ended up with Peterson, Green, White, Gore, Witten, Nicks, and Romo with my first seven picks. I felt like there was pretty good value available at #1.
     
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    Ppr...Charles #2 IMO
     
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  33. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    12 man league, I pick first and then nothing for 23 spots.....it it tough...I like 5,6,7 spots....
     
  34. finyank13

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    AJ? How the hell did you end up with Green at the backend of Round 2? he will be gone by then in this league.....I am thinking on waiting on a QB and loading up position players....I am thinking Luck, RG3, or gulp Vick could be had latter in the rounds...

    Oh man the combo TY Hilton and Luck would be sexy...
     
  35. Boik14

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    If anything Id say McCoy > Charles
     
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    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Because Mach picked up Janikowski right before him....
     
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    305 Brawndo Club Member

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    Anybody else having problems with nfl.com drafts? Where you cant click ****
     
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  38. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    yeah, in our 30 round IDP draft it caused me to get autodrafted 3 players in rounds 14, 19, and 20 which cost me 3 of my DB targets [Eric Berry, Ryan Clark, and Devin McCourty] and the trickle down affect from it hurt the second half of my draft.
     
  39. Fin-Omenal

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    It's possible, but J.Charles coming off a torn knee with R.Crennel misusing him..STILL had a very good year.

    Now? A year removed from surgery, a better coach, a better QB, a chance to still be in games so he gets carries all 4 Quarters. He's my #2 overall RB.
     
  40. Boik14

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    McCoy is my #3 but with Fosters health in question...I would take him 2 if I had pick 2 in a draft. Kelly is going to run the ball like crazy imo and Im sure his run offensive concepts will be different
     

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