2013 Practice Squad

Since Carp and Bess, next to none really, every yr we have hopes for the PS, we usually wind up with Julius Pruitt from it all.

 

They may have been using him there in the closed practices and maybe them not doing in games was to keep it on the down low.

 

I hate when we do that, it seems to clever by half and rarely works out, at least it didn't when Sparano was in town.

To me, there is no place to hide on the football field, you have to let your talent perform moreso than "double secret probation"

Interesting aside, Thigpen could lead the league in APY, Wake in sacks.

 

Jordan Kovacs is on our PS

 

Wow JDub, you really liked Francis huh?

 

More dislike Ireland than like of AJ, I'm guessing

 

Some theory he was used more in practice than in games. Maybe.

 

I wonder if they will sign Rodgers, the wr from Tenn. Tech to the practice squad with two wrs already on it?

 

Usually I feel J-dub doesn't go to far with spinning something into Ireland bashing, he's usually pretty honest and forthright with his opinion, and I can respect his honesty, but that one was a spinnerrama.

 

When a team signs someone off the PS, its to go to the active roster.

 

I don't believe he made it to any practice squad, went right from waivers to Pats' 53.

 

That is correct. He was claimed off waivers and not signed off our practice squad.

 

What I DIDN'T know is that you can deny PS recruitment?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong here but I believe that any team can claim any player from any practice squad to their active 53. so more than likely what happened was that he turned them down for the PS before the waiver period ended, signed to our PS and then was claimed to their active 53. again correct me if I'm wrong with that.

 

lol yea I was catching up when I posted that. I thought I read in this post that the league had a 90 min delay in announcements for this, again could be wrong and relaying bad info but it would make sense. he shoots them down for their PS before the noon deadline then signs with us on our PS and before the official announcement are made he is claimed for their active 53. he's on his way to ST meeting because he just signed to our PS and in the mean time gets ganked by the freakin Pats.. lol typical, but leave it to the Pats to exploit any angle they can. "A" for effort there...bastards

 

I feel yuh man. RJ Stanford is a bad football player in so many ways it hurts. Keeping a guy like that and letting Francis be snatched is, however, a typical Ireland move.

Francis is ten times better than Stanford. DB's with Stanford's skill level and talent are available everywhere all year long. You can sign guys off their couch in November and do just as well.

PFF had Francis rated 6th this preseason among DT's. HTH does Ireland justify this kind of horseshat decision.

I really really hate the way this FO operates. Ross needs to clean house sooner rather later.

 

Ireland wasn't in charge when Paul Soliai and Randy Starks were acquired, and as much as I like Odrick's upside at 3-technique, he has performed more like a 3rd or 4th round draft pick than a 1st round pick.

Ireland deserves 0 credit for the DL. In fact, the only thing Ireland really deserves is to get shat canned.

 

Yea he was.


He was also in charge when we signed Wake. And I think you really need to go look at the typical production of 3rd and 4th rd DL if you think that is the level to which he has performed. Even with missing a year due to injury he's been better than pretty much anyone not named Geno Atkins that area.

 

he signed an relative unknown randy starks from the titans in one of the first moves he ever made for us.....

 

Based on our lack of going for a TE and/or G/OL player, I really feel like a trade is on the horizon. We're so loaded on DL that 1, we let a quality-upside guy go and 2, could use one of the remainder to trade for a need. I'm fine with our 53 as-is...it's not 100% on the surface, but has some flexibility built-in with the PS and hybrids. I just feel like something's coming...call it a hunch.

Time to see if J-Mart is as improved as it would appear...I think he is, but it has to be proven on the field. I also think Egnew will be passable at TE while Sims progresses and becomes above-average by mid-season.

 

Any GM that doesn't listen to his coaches is a moron. Especially a GM that hires a coach and then ignores his wishes on who to keep or cut. Clyde Gates is a guy Ireland wanted to keep but cut at Philbin's request. I think its more of a collaberation than you suggest.

 

I wouldn't call Starks an unknown even in 2008. I wanted us to draft him the year he came out of college. Son of a gun had a 500 lb 1rep max on the bench his last year of college.

 

The quality depth on the DL should now be left alone. It was deeper two days ago. I generally believe Stanford and Jones may be gone after Carroll and Davis recover. I guess there wasn't anything worth the effort on the OL; same for lb. However, we may never know how many players Miami attempted to claim. I know this may sound bad, but I am glad Austin was released. I just thought there was better on the roster and could be better acquired. The wr situation may also not be as bad given most Sundays only 4 dress anyway. Garner and Yeatman played along the line, with Garner playing all positions. For the first time in some time, maybe the roster just needed to be left alone with few changes made. No udfas made it this year. Isn't that an indication of depth?

 

We saw that on Hard Knocks. If Ireland wants to keep a guy and Philbin doesn't want him, that guy is gone. My impression is that they crosscheck with each other, but Philbin won't stop Ireland from signing a guy Ireland wants and Ireland won't stop Philbin from cutting a guy he wants to cut. Trades would probably be more of a collaboration, but the controlling partner would depend on whether the primary goal is to add a specific player to get rid of a specific player.

 

With our history of cutting guys, they claiming them, and said guy stab us in the heart on game day? Wouldn't you? At this point, its either my theory of the curse or... nah I'll stick with curse.

 

What guys have we cut that have done that??

Heath Evans? Rob ninkovich?

 

You could've stopped at Heath Evans. That was embarrassing enough.

 

You really think losing Evans and ninkovich over the years is enough to poke fun?

 

Jeff Ireland wasn't in charge of the Dolphins until Sept. 2010. Prior to that he was nothing but Parcell's gopher.

He doesn't get credit for the DL personnel in question.

Just as the buck stops with the chief decision maker, he also gets the credit for good things.

It is just plain wrong to give credit where it isn't due.

Ireland hasn't performed well in his duties. His decisions have resulted in the Dolphins being a mediocre to bad NFL team.

He should have been fired last year.

 

At this point, I only judge Ireland for 2011, 2012, 2023 drafts..too much speculation, too much power above him when Parcells was here..it's best I think to just start from there.

 

Not even close. Every year, every team's fans make a huge deal of the PS players and cut players. The reality is that only a very small fraction of these players ever go on to make an impact.

Calling Ireland incompetent and using Francis as evidence of this is dishonest.

 

Seems to me that Ireland, as GM, is in overall charge of identifying player personnel he believes will help the team and getting them under contract, while deciding who gets on the field is primarily the job of the coaches, who work with the players every day and know each player's strengths, weaknesses and how each contributes to the whole. I don't see Ireland insisting that a player whom the coaches don't want on the final roster be put there, even though he may have the power to do that.

 

Link from team site: http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/p...ce-Squad/0d13ae75-234f-4840-8156-620be4c0cbdf