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Our Ravens Game

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by anlgp, Sep 6, 2013.

  1. anlgp

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    I realize everyone is more than likely focused on Browns, Colts, Falcons, and Saints first, but I'm curious to get a little discussion going on this Ravens game after watching them play the Broncos last night because it's actual NFL game discussion.

    I also realize we do not have Manning at QB, Welker at receiver, and whoever the hell that TE was going up the seam, but I do think I have relaxed playing the Ravens a little bit based on the lack of defensive performance by them last night. I don't know how much of it was first game jitters, or how much could be attributed to them being the team to lose the most players in NFL history after a SB win.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap10...ore-ravens-set-to-lose-eight-starting-players

    So, I'm curious to know your thoughts.

    How are you feeling about our Oct 6th Ravens game after last nights Broncos/Ravens game?
     
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  2. Bumrush

    Bumrush Stable Genius Club Member

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    A lot better. Their D looked gassed and their WR corps took a hit. Dallas Clark also looked like crap. If we can contain their running game, we should win.
     
  3. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    A bit better, but they will have had several games to gel at that point - they were clearly out of sync on defense and offense. However, they really struggled to catch and hang onto the ball, and their secondary (Huff especially) looked atrocious. They have very exploitable weak spots. I would expect Gibson offensively to be solid, and defensively, this should be a game the LBs and Jones feast. If Oher is out long term that is a huge blow for them as their backup T looked terrible.

    However, that said, if Harbough challenges that pass to Welker, who the hell knows how that game goes.
     
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  4. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Good thread Gap, was thinking about this as well, watching it on dvr now, tell you what, their problem right now is they think their sh&$ don't stink and that reflects in their discipline, their heads are not right, their a bit out of control, and I'm only in the 2nd quarter, don't like their approach to the season mentally, it's not humble.
     
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  5. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I feel about the same, but I was never one that saw that game as daunting. IMO we are the more talented team. I see them as a weak SB winner that got hot at the right time and got a few breaks. And I don't see them as improved since then. I do think their D is better, or will be than what they had last season, but not a ton. I also believe they lost some important pieces on offense. Flacco is still an excellent QB, but he lost two important chain movers. I think that will result in a large number of drives stalling quickly and the D being on the field a lot. I had the Ravens and Browns battling for last in the division with the better team being about 8-8 and the other having a losing record.
     
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  6. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Losing Pitta and Jones was a huge blow. If Jones is gone through our game that really hampers them. Stokely looks finished - he had no presence, no separation, looked gassed. Abysmal. They will be hitting the waiver wire if Jones is out for more than a game or two.

    Anyone know of updates to Oher and Jones injuries?
     
  7. invid

    invid Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I'm not counting them out on defense, it's amazing that James Ihedigbo beat out Matt Elam. Why wasn't Arthur Brown playing last night? I feel like he could have relieved some of them Julius Thomas blues. Ladarius Webb is only one year removed from a pro-bowl year. They were playing Peyton Manning people, they'll be better when it comes time to play us. They have a fierce pass-rush.

    Offense is another story, they've got nothing but Torrey Smith at receiver now. Most important aspect will be stopping Ray Rice.
     
  8. SICK

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    Last season the Ravens defense didnt give up their 7th passing TD until week 10..........unreal.
     
  9. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    They been saying here around Bronco country 16-0 before the season even started and they believe that's how good this years Broncos are so don't throw the Ravens in the dirt just yet.
     
  10. anlgp

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    “I’m good. We have to wait on the test results but everything should be OK," Oher said after the game.
    Jones and Oher will continue to be evaluated this week.

    http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news...-Injury-/a5a5bab1-01af-4b58-9fea-34824f3a8dd8

    People in Broncos country saying the Broncos are going 16-0........ I'm convinced. :up:
     
  11. Not So Fast

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    Despite last night's performance, I don't see any reason to elevate my expectations. Ravens are still a stronger team than Miami is at this point, and they'll have more than enough time to work out the kinks and get healthy by the time Oct. 6 rolls around.
     
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  12. sloppyjoer

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    I think our front 7 is better than the Broncos' so we will still be able to contain the run to make Flacco throw the rock. And, he threw a crazy amount around last nite. It will all come down to our secondary and the pressure we can get on Flacco. I don't particularly care for Flacco, but the dude has an arm and good accuracy.

    Their D is a shadow of what they were last year. If it comes to a shoot-out, I say we come out on top.

    Sure, it was Manning dismantling them last nite, but the Ravens don't scare me as much as previous years.
     
  13. Nappy Roots

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    You think their defense got better? Losing Lewis, Ellerbe, Williams, Reed, and Kruger I can't possibly see how they would be better.
     
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  14. unluckyluciano

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    never thought the ravens would be that good in the firs place. I was a little surprised in the first half how well they moved the ball on offense. But, from what I recall that was denvers forte last year was to adjust at half defensively.
     
  15. Stringer Bell

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    Gained Dumervile, they're CBs are healthy too, which is huge. Also added Elam and Brown in the draft. I think the defense is better, primarily because their CBs are healthier.

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  16. Nappy Roots

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    I don't think their CBs are very good. They lost Cary Williams, so even if other CBs are healthy, that is a hit there. Jimmy Smith im not buying in on. Webb is legit, but I dont see what else is impressive..
     
  17. rafael

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    I do. Lewis was a great leader, but was a liability on the field. He couldn't cover anybody and was generally making tackles down the field rather than those at or behind the line stops he used to make. In fact, other than Ellerbe, I think they improved their LBs. Dumerville is a much better pass rusher than Kruger. Reed could still make plays but doesn't have the range he used to. I haven't looked it up but I believe their defense was ranked about 20th last season. That was a below average defense that added speed and youth. That's how they're better.
     
  18. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    At the end of that game I felt Flacco was VERY lucky not to have 4+ picks. He should've had more completions too though, lots of dropped passes. If their O-line doesn't improve vastly, he may get injured in our game.
     
  19. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    As I watched the preseason games, what struck me was how bad most OLs are. The critics here b*tch about our OL, but IMO about half the NFL would be better off replacing their OL with ours.
     
  20. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    So far they haven't looked better on the field, and I still think losing Reed is a huge blow.

    I also think leadership is very important for defense, losing two big leaders is also big. I don't see how they are better.
     
  21. jw3102

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    The Ravens were so bad on offense last year, they fired their offensive coordinator during the season. Yet they were able to turn their season around and became the eventual Super Bowl Champion. So I certainly wouldn't count the Ravens out after just one game.

    They were playing against the Broncos and Manning. It is very likely the Broncos will be the AFC representative in the Super Bowl this year. They have lost a lot of veteran leadership on offense and especially defense. Harbaugh is a great HC and Newsome may be the best GM in the business. So while they certainly didn't look impressive last night, I wouldn't count them out of the AFC playoff race just yet.

    I also wouldn't be worried about how the Dolphins will match up when they play the Ravens, because that game isn't until the first week of October and we have no way of knowing at this time how these teams will match up. So many variables come into play when you start looking ahead five weeks into the season. Right now it is all about the Browns. As far as the Ravens not having their heads in the right place right now. Perhaps that is a problem but, I'm sure Harbaugh and Newsome will get their heads back into place rather quickly.
     
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  22. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I counted out the Ravens before the season started. I don't think they are going to be a .500 team. More modern day Giants.
     
  23. ToddPhin

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    Having Manning on the field plus a pair of good, seasoned tackles can do a lot to neutralize Baltimore's stellar edge rushers. They still got a pair of sacks and a handful of pressures but for the most part the bookends did their job and Manning was fairly clean and helped keep himself clean by being active in the short passing game and occasionally keeping Julius Thomas in to block. Ravens' D might look significantly stouter vs us is all I'm sayin.
     
  24. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Harbaughs are just a bunch of crybabies...John was probably still crying over some call that was called RIGHT that he didn't like, to notice Welker trapped that ball. Can't stand either of those morons. Then gonna lie about it in the press conference (first I've heard of it, etc), and blame NBC for not showing the replay, although we ALL saw the replay right after the play...titty-baby.

    Ravens got totally lucky last year, and ya, it's better to be lucky than good sometimes, I just don't think they sustain any kind of dominance in that division, with Cincy coming on strong especially. Never have respected that organization since Themurderer...hurts that much more that they knocked us out of our last 2 playoff appearances.
     
  25. anlgp

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    Sure it is. The Broncos aren't a slouch of a team. It's not like they lost that way to ..

    The Jets :knucks:
     
  26. jdang307

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    I think, but may be wrong, raffy was talking about Boldin. Again, could be wrong.

    Raffy, isn't that the name of El Cunado from The League? :D
     
  27. Alex13

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    i think baltimore is not as bad as they looked last night, manning, welker, thomas, decker and the new toy julius thomas are a lot to deal with
     
  28. rafael

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    Yeah, I meant Pitta and Boldin.

    I only watched a couple of episodes of the league a while back, but there is a character there named Rafi. He's a crazy dude.
     
  29. Colorado Dolfan

    Colorado Dolfan ...dirty drownin' man?

    I've heard that the past 10 years. ;)
     
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  30. mcdave21

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    2 things....

    First, unless denvers front 7 minus miller and dumervil is somehow all of a sudden among the very best in football, then the ravens oline is absolutely putrid. Couldn't run at all.

    Second, its humorous to hear anyone taking up for that embarrassing defensive showing by the ravens by claiming that the Broncos are all world. If our d had given up 7 tds and 50 points last night, it would be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Wed be seeing post after post claiming we were on our way to 0-16. Smh. PTSD is a $&@#!.
     
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    :lol:
     
  32. 19kyle86

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    It's too bad Keller is hurt, because after seeing the way Thomas was used versus the Ravens last night I think he and Tannehill could have done some damage and he would have drawn a lot of attention. But it's the way it is.

    Hard to say what the landscape will look like in a few weeks, but right now I almost feel like the Ravens game is a pick 'em. I don't want to read too much into the opener last night though, for so many reasons. And while I don't see the Broncos going 16-0, I could see them going undefeated at home. The Ravens had a very rude welcome to their season last night, but I'll wait to see how they bounce back before making much of a call. Either way, I'm gonna be at the Ravens game so I'm hoping it's a goodie!
     
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  33. FanMarino

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    Making me smile reading some of the posts saying the Ravens were "lucky" or "hit form" at the right time. They 1.Got to the Playoffs. 2.Best of the AFC and 3. Won the big one. Not much respect from some corners. Broncos are a seriously good team. Ravens have lost players and we've managed to grab one of their up and coming players in #59. Ravens are still a decent team, not AFC Championship calibre imo but i think we are getting above ourselves where we stand right now. Browns is 50/50 regarding whether we can win. Colts game is going to one of our better tests. If we beat them then that's a huge statement. That game will see where we are. Colts are good, Broncos are the team to beat in the AFC. They are better than the Pats.
     
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  34. jdang307

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    Don't forget the Ravens were playing their first game, at 5,000 feet. That's tough. That's why they ran out of gas.

    I huff and puff when I land in Denver and my skin is tingly for a day or two. That plus Peyton's tempo and you're screwed.
     
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  35. FanMarino

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    Ravens are on down slope. Hard to beat last season. Broncos on the up. Is it just me that hates Manning. He p****d me off by beating Marinos TD record with those constant, lame inside the 5yd line passes for TDs which were cheap imo. I just dont like Manning. Respect him yes but he grates on my wick.
     
  36. His'nBeatYour'n

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    I think the 35 minute delay, it being the first full game of the season, and the mile high effect had them falling apart by the second half. Plus Manning's no huddle, and the ridiculous weapons he has on that offense. Those aren't elements the Dolphins will have on their side when they play.

    With that said, I took comfort in that game because it showed what the Ravens are. They are an NFL team.

    They, just like every other team in the NFL, are not their 2012 record. Every team is beatable every Sunday. Don't worry about the 2013 Dolphins strength of schedule. Worry about how good the 2013 Dolphins are. If they are anything to be proud of this year, they'll be able stand with every team on their schedule and keep things close until the 4th quarter. And if Tannehill is a franchise QB, he'll do what needs to be done.

    Fins up!
     
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  37. Drowning

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    Shhh. Homers are reading.

    You guys are feelin better? : Dan Le Batard laugh: Better? : Dan Le Batard voice breaking as he laughs: Really, Stugotz? Better? :now serious Le Batard:

    I sit here feeling like the worst fan in the world not because of me but because of you. What Cloud City, Billy D Williams, Lando Calrissian world are you guys living in? You guys write this stuff as if Miami has been consistingly producing the type of offense the Ravens produced last night. So, really, Stugotz?

    Guys :Jesus Christ Oh my goodness laugh: we can beat the Ravens but if you feel better after last night, you need help. You really do. If anything, the Ravens proved that even after such a drastic overturn, they can stll ball out. Flacco showed the he is capable of beating you with just his arm, no fancy play-calling, no scripted plays, shotgun, pass, hurry up and do it again. They just happened to get theirs skulls bashed in against the best passer and smartest Qb in the league since Marino who now has one of the smartest WR I think I have ever seen play live, and a very, very good football team.

    We can beat anyone. This team has shown flashes of greatness and so has Tanne but that is exactly how they'd have to play against the Ravens team I saw last night- not flashes, just greatness.

    Oh Stugotz...
     
  38. Stitches

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    What game were you watching? The one where Flacco took 4 sacks and 2 INTs (one of which was bad and should have been a pick 6)? Or how about the one where the Ravens averaged 4.5 yards per play and went 8-22 on 3rd down?


    I'm not even saying the Ravens are worse than I thought, or that we have any better chance of beating them because of last night, but I can't see how anyone can say Flacco showed he's capable of beating your team with just his arm after last nights game. He may be capable of beating teams with just his arm, but last night's game sure is **** not the example to use if you want to try and make that case.
     
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  39. Drowning

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    Stitches, he was playing what probably will be the team representing the AFC in this years Super Bowl. Even with the bad, Miami produces the kinds of drives Baltimore did last night on a whim, on a regular basis? Don't even reply to hat please and let me love you as i remember you because the answer to that question is an emphatic NO.

    Okay. Stats it up all you like. You got eyes? Last night's Ravens team, as bad as Flacco was or wasn't according to whose eyes you are borrowing, is a better team than our Miami Dolphins as of today off of what we've seen thus far.

    We struggle to move the football. There is NOTHING EVER that looks even remotely effortless about our offense as both teams accomplished yesterday, one with much more success than he other. We always have to Al Pacino claw for that inch.

    Cloak yourself in fandom if you wish. If it would've been Miami on the other side of the Broncos last night, coming off the preseason I saw, we wouldn't have been in that game not 5 minutes never mind an entire half and into the 3rd quarter.

    So there you go. Even more depressing now. Our team, as of today, is not as good as the team no one is worried about and a QB that as per you had an atrocious outing for throwing 2 ints and taking 4 sacks despite being the only factor that kept them in the game for as long as they were.
     
  40. Stitches

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    Nothing about the Ravens offense looked effortless yesterday outside of maybe one drive. They got a lot of passing yards, but that's because they threw it like 65 times. And yea, Joe Flacco totally showed he could win the game himself by keeping them competitive for about half of a game.

    And again, I didn't say last night did anything to show we are better than the Ravens, but how does the Ravens performance yesterday prove Joe Flacco can beat a team on his own? It surely looked to me like Flacco can't beat a team on his own. It wasn't Drew Brees throwing for 400+ yds and 5TDs with pinpoint passes while his defense sucked. It was Joe Flacco having a typical Flacco regular season performance without the defense to back him up.
     

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