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The Debunked Lies of Week 1

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Fin D, Sep 9, 2013.

  1. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    [td]Lamar Miller will get 1500 yards this year.[/td]
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    [td]Not running like that and not running behind a line blocking that poorly. I don't think yesterday's performance is indicative of how it will go this year, but it should probably be pretty damn high on the practice list.
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    [td]Tannehill can't win a game.[/td]
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    [td]Omar can officially suck it now. Tannehill put the team on his back and won that game. He came through in the clutch and responded after some misfires. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, he's the one we've been waiting for.
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    [td]LIE[/td]
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    [td]There are 3 team destroying controversies, and they are all Ireland's fault and Philbin is losing the team. [/td]
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    [td]Sigh.

    A) Randy Starks shooting the bird was not an act of anger at or towards the coaches or organization. His agent said it was a joke. Philbin joked about it, and flatly told people it wasn't directed towards him or the staff.

    B) Mike Wallace didn't throw the coaches under the bus nor did he complain about anything or anyone. He was upset after the game, but its just as likely that he was upset with himself as he was with the staff. He admitted today he was just upset about his performance and he's already over it.

    C) Canter on Twitter, means talks are in the ****ter. Its a tactic. For all we know Soliai isn't even pissed. His agent could just be an *******, which is highly probable, since agents can be *******s. Either way, there's not enough info to know anything. For all we know, Canter just did more harm to his client than our FO did.

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    [td]Tannehill locks on to receivers too much.[/td]
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    [td]This is a two stage lie. The first stage is that its a lie ANYONE can tell where a QB is looking using broadcast footage. You cannot do it. raf cannot do it. CK cannot do it. Joe Montana cannot do it. The ghost of Vince Lombardi cannot do it. The reason is that you cannot see the QB's eyes from the camera angles they use, nor can you see the receivers once they are out of frame. If you cannot see the eyes nor can you see the target, you cannot tell where someone is looking. Case in point:

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    (Credit to brandon27 for this posting this photo in the game picture thread found here.)

    No one can watch the broadcast footage and tell that Tannehill was looking to his right.

    The stage 2 lie is that Tannehill does this too much. Obviously since Stage 1 is a lie, there's no way for us to tell if Stage 2 is true. That photo certainly points towards it being a lie and his after game interview clearly shows he saw both Hartline AND Wallace on the TD pace even though they were on opposite sides of the field. That interview is here: [video]http://www.miamidolphins.com/multimedia/videos/Tannehill-Talks-About-Season-Opener/3ee64cce-a219-4777-9d87-f517802fb5c7[/video]
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  2. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    As I said in another thread, the ONLY thing that matters from yesterday's game is:

    Omar Kelly's Kill-O-Meter:

    Ryan Tannehill - 1 Kill!
     
  3. Muck

    Muck Throwback Uniform Crusader Retired Administrator

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    Tannehill does lock on




















    TO DEFENDERS' SOULS!!11@
     
  4. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    1. LIE: Fin D has a life.
    TRUTH: This thread exists.
     
  5. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    who the hell predicted this?!
     
  6. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    pay attention during the offseason please. some of the players predicted this.
     
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  7. byroan

    byroan Giggity Staff Member Administrator Luxury Box

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    I saw him go through his progression the first time we had the ball on 3rd down. He hit Gibson on a throw that should have been caught. Gibson rebounded nicely the rest of the game.
     
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  8. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Yup, it's his biggest flaw. But he looked better yesterday as opposed to last year, great to see. From what little I saw of the Jets game btw Geno Smith was locking on big time.
     
  9. seabass0795

    seabass0795 New Member

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    Miller set that goal for himself and Pouncey predicted 1,300
     
  10. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    IMO, Miller could rush for 1500 yards… just not behind that line. Miller did nothing yesterday to cause me to believe he was the problem. The problem was the OL plain and simple.
     
  11. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    did you read the post you replied to? lol
     
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  12. anlgp

    anlgp ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A

    Lie: We won't beat Cleveland (source: Browns fans)
    Truth: WE WON!
     
  13. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    That was a great play. Gibson's route took a minute to develop before he slipped away from initial coverage. I was sure it was a first down to the point of calling it out loud only to watch the ball squirt out of Gibson's hands.
     
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  14. CaribPhin

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    Actual Source: The entire national media save for Jaworski.
     
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  15. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Truth: Mr can't play in the slot Brandon Gibson, played it pretty damn well.
     
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  16. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Miller did nothing yesterday that lead me to believe he could be a solution. I have seen runningbacks do double what Miller did with less.
     
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  17. LBsFinest

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    dude our offensive line got WORKED, Miller was getting hit in the backfield all game. I felt bad for him, he was pretty much set up to fail.
     
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  18. 72 Dolphins

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    No offense - Bull**** ! There isn't a running back in the league that could have turned in a good day playing for the Dolphins yesterday.

    Barry Sanders is the only guy that comes to mind, that might have had an outside shot at making something happen...but then he was pure magic and magic is what you needed when you had 3 or 4 defenders playing kill-joy behind the line scrimmage with the running lanes. There were moments when I said to myself...."Poor Miller - He'll be blamed for this crap." SHOO-NUFF.
     
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  19. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Even with that being true, he didn't do himself any favors. Miller did a bad job behind a bad line.
     
  20. FinSane

    FinSane Cynical Dolphins Fan

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    That one Gibson dropped really irked me. Had he caught that it would've been a game a changer and we might've had the momentum to score a TD on that drive. Might've been a better score in that case. But he did make up for later in the game, so I can't be mad at him.
     
  21. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    I think Miller will run well next week. In fact I think a lot of teams are going to emphasize the run a little more next week. I realize it's a passing league but running backs as a whole were atrocious and right now outside of Adrian Peterson and Arian Foster there aren't too many that impress me. FWIW the best back yesterday was Reggie Bush. I think Bush is going to have a hell of a season.
     
  22. 72 Dolphins

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    Watch Alfred Morris tonight and you'll be impressed. McCoy doesn't suck himself and with Arian Foster running later tonight, thats 3 pretty damn good RB's tonight.
     
  23. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    maybe you should stop *****ing and pay attention to "your" team more
     
  24. Onehondo

    Onehondo Senior Member Club Member

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    So what is the biggest area of concern yesterday? Offensive Line, Wallace, Running back or somewhere else? If it is the Offensive Line where specifically?
     
  25. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I love Lie/Truth #4. I find it hilarious when people say that as if they can see his eyes. haha I thought that same thing when I posted that pic in the game pics thread. Nice job pointing that out Fin.
     
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  26. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Can we at least agree that if the running back doesn't cross the line of scrimmage on a designed running play, it's on the offensive line?

    LIE: Miller and Thomas are horrible running backs.

    TRUE: We won't know until the offensive line gets its drive blocking together.

    There has to be a reason why Ronnie and Reggie were dancing behind the line waiting for a crease or a hole to open, Thomas just pounds into the pile for no gain, and Miller gets tackled in the backfield. This is not a new problem, and various coaching staffs have been clueless on how to solve it.

    Sparano was an offensive line specialist. Pfffft. We have a Marine as an offensive line coach. Pfffft.
     
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  27. CitizenSnips

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    pass blocking ended up leveling out throughout the game. The 80 yard drive that put us up 20-10 had superb blocking all throughout. Tannehill was sacked 4 times in the first half and then 0 in the 2nd half, i believe.

    Run blocking tho? Pure crap all around. Point of attack got stood up and the backside whiffed on just about every player. Miller and Thomas had no where to go, ever. And we ran it both sides so you can't single out Martin or Clabo or jerry or incog. All bad. That said, the interior of this line is exactly the same from last year so those guys I expect to turn it around. Martin and Clabo though need to step it up.
     
  28. Drowning

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    Most certainly a problem but, not the only one. If I'm sitting at home going, "Pass. Run. Pass. Pass. Run" and I'm batting .900 on those, the oline is not the only problem.


    Edit: A future must caption pic thread:

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  29. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Caption: this is a lot easier than trying to run the ball behind these guys!
     
  30. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    You have a 50/50 shot of being right before even taking into account down and distance (or score or time of the game), heck you'd be better than 50/50 in almost every NFL game by just predicting a pass each play. When you're .900 predicting the type of run, location of run, number of WRs in the routes, what route concepts are coming, etc. then it will be a bigger issue.
     
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  31. Fin D

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    It was your thread that made me realize it. I apologize I didn't credit you with finding the pic. I edited the OP to rectify that. I know you weren't asking for it, but its the right thing to do.
     
  32. MonstBlitz

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  33. brandon27

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    Oh, thanks, but I dont deserve it :lol: I didnt take the pic. I wish that was my day job though :lol: Thanks though I suppose. lol
     
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  34. Boik14

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    Caption: John Jerry blocking no one as usual.
     
  35. jim1

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    If you think that last year Tannehill was actually scanning the entire field covertly and that picture is evidence of that- good luck with that one. It's an interesting picture for sure, but last year Tannehill stared down receivers, bottom line. Safeties and LBs followed his eyes, and that resulted in multiple interceptions. He looked better at that yesterday and that was my favorite takeaway of the whole game- it's critical that he corrects that flaw. But sorry, that picture being evidence that Tannehill does not stare down receivers, or that you can't tell if a QB in general is staring down his receivers, is b.s.

    Watch the defenders following his eyes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8cspH8IsNk

    Also, not staring down receivers is huge, but looking off Safeties is obvioulsy important as well. You don't do that with a sideways glance, without turning your head, when the Safety is 30 yards or more down the field, from where the QB is located back in the pocket. If you want to see it done right watch Peyton Manning, best at that I've ever seen.
     
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  36. Fin D

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    Its not bs at all. You cannot see the QBs through broadcast footage and you certainly aren't seeing it in real time. The photo absolutely proves it.
     
  37. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    I read the top of the post, not the part in huge type at the bottom. I figured that it was just some quote or message like the forgettable stuff that you have at bottom of your posts, not part of the actual post itself and not worth noticing at first glance.
     
  38. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    ...but you can see the QBs eyes to know where he's looking on broadcast TV in real time?
     
  39. jim1

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    You actually think that QBs can effectively read coverages on a field that's over 50 yards wide without turning their heads and darting their eyeballs side to side? Or that QBs look off Safeties 20-40 yards away with their eyeballs and not turning their heads?

    Sorry dude, that's an interesting picture but that's about it. Try looking side in front of you side to side fifty plus yards wide- if you think that a QB could effectively read defenses doing that without turning their heads, and therefore their helmets, a motion that you can see at on TV when they focus on the QB dropping back to pass and certainly at the games live, then you're deluding yourself.

    Sorry dude- interesting picture but it proves nothing as to the point that you're trying to make.
     
  40. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Not his eyes, where his head is turning. When I read your posts I ignore the garbage that's at the bottom of every one of them. Not that your question really has anything to do with the subject at hand.
     

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