Losing any game sucks, especially today when we're clearly the better team if not missing 36% of our defensive starters and with a few others still recovering from recent injury. Regardless, did ANYONE expect us to go 16-0? I sure didn't. We escaped the toughest part of our schedule with a 3-2 record, with wins over the Browns [who could very well win their division], the playoff caliber Falcons, and the 4-1 Colts [who beat San Fran & Seattle]......... and we sloppily lost to an impressive 5-0 Saints team in their OWN backyard, a team that's 11-0 at home the last 2 years with Sean Payton..... and we just lost by a missed FG to last year's Super Bowl team w/o Wake, two corners, and our important middle linebacker who is a difference maker in limiting Ray Rice. Obviously our current play has been sloppy the last two weeks and needs to be sured up, but there's no reason to not have playoff expectations in high regard as our injured players become healthy, have an upcoming bye week to clean a few things up, and now that we're through the toughest part of our schedule with a SIGNIFICANTLY favorable one laying ahead. We get the Bills w/o a QB, and the Bucs are a mess averaging 11 pts/game. If we split the Pats/Bengals we're likely 6-3 with a remaining schedule of SD, Carolina, NY, Pitt, Buff, NY, and NE. If we don't play down to their level we should go 5-2 at worst down the home stretch. 11-5 is well within reason. Just sayin--- give it a few weeks to play out before prematurely pulling out the white towels.
Can we ban threads like these? Seriously. They're at least as bad, and definitely more frequent, than ACTUAL chicken little sentiment threads. The Dolphins lost. People are upset. They lost two in a row and there are weaknesses that promise more losses to come if they can't be fixed. Let people react to those things without pretending that all of them are morons for doing so.
It's not the end of the world. It's not even the end of our hopes for a winning season. It's just the end of our hopes for a playoff spot. We won't be getting one with that level of play.
Well assuming Tuel is the starter for the Bills we should be 4-2 going up against the Patriots, and I like our chances to beat the Patriots. If we lose to Tuel, especially after a Bye week, I don't want anyone here complaining about the attendance. The Dolphins deserve the empty stadium IF that happens.
OH NOOOO it's the end of the world!! Dude, I admire your optimism, but we have no offensive line and no backs who can block. Therefore, no running game. No time to throw the ball and let routes develop. Other teams can see this. Our defense can't win'em all for us, especially if we keep going three and out. Wannyball doesn't win championships.
I don't think this is the right assessment for this team. Our offense actually moves the ball pretty well. We're one dimensional but thats okay in todays NFL. We're just inconsistent. I have absolutely no idea what to expect from the offense everytime they go out there. "oh is this the drive where we get sacked twice in a row or the one where we go 80 yards and td like it was nothing" Cause we do that. Tannehill is the best redzone QB we've seen in years. I really like a lot about this team, which is why it sucks so bad to watch them give up so many sacks.
I have to agree with ck here. The game ended an hour ago, we're all still angry. Let us vent. Should have started this thread later tonight and without making others seem stupid.
It is not the end of the world, but this situation is very concerning. The same weaknesses that were there when we were winning, have not only remained and are costing us games now, but have actually gotten worse, not better. The team has some serious soul searching and brainstorming to do to find ways and people to solve them. Most concerning is, I don't think they can solve them this season in any meaningful way. Short of a miracle.
The losses the last two weeks exposed certain weaknesses, and these weaknesses are being discussed. I don't see what the big deal is- every year optimism give way to realism, it's human nature and I wouldn't say it's a very extreme reaction. Ironically it's your thread, accusing others of metaphorically saying that the "the sky is falling" when they're just discussing team weaknesses after a loss, which is in fact the extreme and unnecessary reaction. That being said, the offensive line sucked today.
I think history tells us as dolphins fans we have every right to panic. Threads like this make it seem like the dolphins have been in the playoffs more than 1 time in the past 13 years
No one is throwing in the white towel. In fact, most people would have been happy coming into the season with a 3-2 record through the toughest part of our schedule. The concern is that our OL is horrible and we may set a sacks allowed record this year. IF, and that's an IF at this point, RTH is a franchise QB, we have to do a better job of protecting him.
You're sanctimoniously parading for fans to have the right to react to a stimulus however they want, even if it seems premature and extreme, however in the same breath you're vehemently suggesting I be precluded from having my OWN stimulus-induced reaction toward fan reactions and the season in general just b/c I'm not already throwing in the towell? Don't tell me they're entitled to their reactions but I'm not entitled to mine. That's utterly hypocritical.
I think there are some things that have come to the forefront (positively) today. Ryan Tannehill can throw the football. He directed that offense. If not for the drops, he'd have had another great completion percentage. Even with all the offensive issues, he still finds a way to get the ball to his receivers and in the right spot. No turnovers. We won the turnover battle 2-0. We scored a defensive TD. Brandon Fields is a positive every week. He changed field position a few times. I liked seeing Marcus Thigpen on the field more. I think he's a great back to have on the field in 3rd down. If our backs can't block, why not get another playmaker out there? I liked seeing Jelani Jenkins on the field more. He's our best coverage linebacker already. He's had more time on the field due to injuries, but he was being used in sub-packages early on. Brandon Gibson & Charles Clay are really nice threats in the seam. Charles Clay has really played well this year, although he had two drops, one of them being key to help field position yardage.
Even in the wins, the offense has been quite offensive. We can do another thread on is it necessary in a passing league to have a RB who averages more than 60yd/gm, I am old school and believe you do. Right now, Lamar Miller and Daniel Thomas are not scaring anyone. Well Saints and Packers have good teams without the need for a big time running back. Well, you can win without a running game when you have Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers. Tannehill, is not Brees or Rodgers. The Fins can win with defense alone but it's going to be so so so so so so so difficult. Fans will have heart problems watching these games. Every game this season the team was Losing or only up by 4 going into 4th quarter.
what weaknesses were exposed? the ones we have with key defensive starters on the bench?...... the weaknesses we have when we play sloppy, commit excessive penalties, and lackadaisically drop an abundance of passes? Obviously protection hasn't been the most consistent but we could've easily won today with our inconsistent Oline play. Sorry man, but go back to threads from before the season started. It was virtually unanimous that a 3-2 start would be fantastic considering the strength of schedule, and that if we could make it through those first 5 games with a winning record that we're an odds on playoff contender. Not only did we hit that 3-2 goal, but we did it through an extensive defensive injury bug..... but no, suddenly it's a bad thing that we're tied for the 5th best record in the AFC and with one of the most favorable schedules over the remaining 11 games among all the playoff potential teams.
They're reactions are to the game and the team. Your reactions are to them. There's a difference, and yes I think that means their reactions should be allowed but yours should be considered off topic attacks on posters.
The reactions like yours are more frequent than the sentiments and threads you're raving against. And how about you spare me the "we were supposed to be worse so be happy with 3-2" crap. That's such a loser mentality.
Wow you must have low standard but I guess your right.Even though 6 tds in 5 games is pretty ****ty we have had worse.
Exactly. A lot of the people whining are the same ones who said we'd be lucky to win 2 of the first 5 so we win 3 of five and now it's wah wah wah we're only 3-2, why you gotta interrupt our group therapy session with a dose of reality and perspective? The OL has been a problem, ok. I get that. People who watch teams other than Miami know that OL issues are prevalent throughout the league. Seattle is considered an elite team and they have an OL just as bad if not worse. The Giants have a bad OL and their "elite" QB hasn't been able to prevent 0-5. The 49ers have a great OL and they're 3-2 just like us including a thrashing by the Indy team we beat, on the road. I don't know that our OL will get better but I do know that we won't face teams who can exploit that weakness all year long and I know that we have 2 weeks to get our defense healthy. Ellerbe, Wake, Misi, Patterson, Davis, and Carroll all have minor injuries. We have the Bills up next and their QB couldn't start for half the college teams in division 1. We get Buffalo twice the Jets twice the winless Bucs and winless Steelers, Carolina, Cincy, San Diego and the Pats x 2. I like our chances provided we get healthy and make some changes on offense that our so obvious even I can point them out.
This is the second week in a row I've read posts from you talking about all "these people" whining. Let me try and explain something to you. Most fans get upset when their team loses and happy when they win. If you want to be a complete homer and be happy no matter what the outcome, don't let any of us stop you. But don't try and tell us what an appropriate response to a loss is. The reason us fans come here is to discuss why the team is winning or losing. Not just to grab a set of pom poms and sing the Dolphin fight song over and over again.
The Wannyball reference is a little dramatic IMO. Our oline stats haven't been pretty by any stretch, but we HAVE been stringing together drives that are creating enough scoring opportunities to win. Unfortunately we've been leaving plays on the field that have nothing to do with offensive line play. We could've easily put up 26+ points today if the dropped passes were cut in half. Scoring 23 against Cleveland isn't bad considering they held Cincy to 6 and Balt to 14. We scored 24 against Indy who held San Fran to 7. We scored 27 against Atlanta. That's 23+ points in 4 of 5 games. Do you not feel 23+ points/game plus a solid, healthy defense at our back is enough to win games?
No, we were not "supposed to be worse". I've said 3-2 or 4-1 all along and I think you know that. I'm a little disappointed with 3-2 b/c I thought Baltimore was a team we should have beaten but upsets happen and frankly we were playing with house money after the 3-0 start. Its people, WADR, people like you who should be praising 3-2 bc it's people like you who said the team was going nowhere this season. If you're disappointed by the loss cool, but you can't predict thunderstorms and flash floods all offseason and then play the disappointed role when theirs only scattered showers.
OH NOOOO it's the end of the world!! No, because the defense eventually gets tired if they're on the field all game long. There has to be ability to move the ball for large chunks of time, which also keeps the other team's offense off the field and limits their ability to score points. Leaving it all up to your defense is not the way to win championships. There has to be some balance. Look at time of possession in this game. Us, 23 min. Them, 36 min. No defense can handle that over an entire game.
I respect that and I respect that fans get upset after a loss. But like Todd said dont tell me I can't take the loss the way I prefer to take it bc if we go back to August the team has come a lot closer to failing to meet my expectations than they have to failing to meet yours.
Maybe thats my problem, I don't vent here, I vent at a bar, with a double shot of Hennessy in one hand and a pair of double DDs in the other
People like me? There's the problem and it's why posts like yours and Todd's are offensive. You're raging against a minority of fans and you're not even sure who they are. Go find me a post where I said the team was going nowhere this season. I'll wait.
