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Wallace, Jones Contract Questions

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by STColeridge, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. STColeridge

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    No, they actually dont.
     
  2. dullfandan

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    Wallace is jes as frustrated as we are about his production.. The look on his face when rt threw the ball behind him on that pc crossing pattern says it all.. Rt needs to realize he's not throwing to Brian and lead Wallace more.. I'm wondering if they are getting enough alone time to work on timing or are they jes running regular practice together then avoiding each other.. Wallace is a hot head and can become a cancer and it seems like rt is jes as stubborn.. I hope they get on the same page soon cuz Wallace's ego will rear its ugly head soon.. He already complained once after the browns game and rt made it a point to target him against the colts then it was likgrt saying "are you happy" then the plays stopped going Wallace's way until last Sunday against the ravens.. Rt made some mistakes, the core made some drops and we lost.. I don't think it has nothing to do with Wallace or rt individually, we played terrible as a team down the stretch... Wallace should get targeted more after the break if the coaches kno whats good for them.. As far as rj goes, I'm not too worried, there's plenty of safety's I the league far worse than him..
     
  3. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Do your students know you plagiarize their snappy retorts? Normally MrClean might grow annoyed with your string of inciting posts, but he, like the rest of us, couldn't care less what you have to say.
     
  4. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    The ones who have contributed to a better-than-par 3-2 record.
     
  5. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Yet you keep responding to him.

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  6. jdang307

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    Hartline's catch percentage is up. Way up. Last year Hartline caught 54.7% of targets through the first five games, and 56.5% for the year. This year he's caught 69.4% through the first five games.

    Did hartline get better? Tannehill get better with placement? Lesser DBs covering him? He's no longer running the deep routes? It would be interesting to see if the targets/catches are travelling the same distance through the air to Hartline.

    But throughout his career he's had a high of 59% and a low of 53% of passes caught and this year it's significantly higher.
     
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  7. cuchulainn

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    Hartline mentioned this on ESPN just the other day... I think DJ or someone posted a link.
     
  8. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Hartline mentioned it as well? Didn't see that. Only looked it up because I was curious to see if any of his stats were changed.
     
  9. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    It also has nothing to do with who or isn't earning their money.
     
  10. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Darwinism hasn't gotten you yet, so I am not concerned.
     
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    At first glance I thought the thread title was Walter Jones contract question. Sadly even at his age he'd probably be an upgrade
     
  12. STColeridge

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    There arent plenty of safeties making more money that are playing worse.
     
  13. STColeridge

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    You obviously don't care about content...you never comment on that. You only comment on the poster. Its how you roll.
     
  14. STColeridge

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    Who are they?
     
  15. STColeridge

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    ROFL. I am not surprised. Those who are done in by natural selection are never concerned. Hence....
     
  16. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    we're currently in the #2 wildcard spot with a 3-2 record and a good chance of starting 4-2 so why don't you do something productive for once and figure out on your own who's contributing to a positive record b/c obviously players are outperforming their opponents or else we wouldn't be 3-2. Let us know what you come up with. :wink2:
     
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  17. ToddPhin

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    I care plenty about content. Provide some for once and maybe I'll care about it.
     
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  18. STColeridge

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    If there are rookies on this team outperforming their draft status or FAs on this team that are a bargain, name them. Why is that hard for you? Or is it just because I asked the question?

    If you want to start a thread about those who are doing remarkably, go for it. I will not focus on you, but will focus on the content of your post. That's how I roll.
     
  19. STColeridge

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    LOL...right.
     
  20. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    At least you acknowledge it. That's your first step toward forum salvation.
     
  21. MrClean

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    Those who are/were done in by natural selection are no longer here. You babble on like a childish idiot.
     
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  22. STColeridge

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    Great insight. Its personal, but brilliant none the less. But the ones who are to be done in by natural selection are also not concerned, just as you are not. I am sure they hear warning signs and think "this noise sounds alot like the babblings of an idiot." Good For Your Soul.

    But lets bring this back to content so it doesnt devolve into you calling me more names.

    Name the rookies on our team make you go, "Wow, I can't believe we got such a bargain in the draft".
    Name the veteran FAs on our team that make you go, "wow, I cant believe we got such a bargain in FA."

    Phinsational can't name names, but of course he won't admit I am right. Can you name any players that fit the criteria?
     
  23. invid

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    I think the more appropriate question to ask would be, "Can you name the players fit MY criteria?"

    Good luck to anyone trying to satisfy the criteria of an irrational poster.
     
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    I think the reflexive tendencies by many of you are so strong, you cannot see past them.

    I am not asking you to satisfy me at all...I am asking you to make the case for a rookie or FA that is performing better than you expected based on where he was drafted or the contract he was given.

    For example: I think Richie I. performs up to his contract. I like the Center, but hes a first round pick, and playing like it. I might say Clemons, who was a sixth round pick, but still not "getting paid".

    Make the case for a player....its that easy. I might agree or I might not. But you, Clean, Phinsational, are so caught up in insulting me and discrediting me and disrespecting me, you've lost your way about what this post is about. I dont care care what you guys say about me, its just striking that all of you guys' post are about me...that should not be the case. Talk about the Phins, not the posters.
     
  25. invid

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    Brent Grimes has come off an Achilles tear, signed a reasonable contract here, and has played well. You say he sucks because he got beat a couple times? Welcome to the life of an NFL cornerback. He has been consistent, if not exceptional, since the beginning of the season.
     
  26. invid

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    And how can you say Reshad Jones plays like a 6th round pick after having put together one of the more complete seasons for a safety last year? So its wrong for me to have confidence in him after putting together last year, but its right for you to declare him a marginal player before the 1/3 mark of this year?

    Don't get it.
     
  27. Stringer Bell

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    I think this is a good example of a lack of perspective. Mike Pouncey is playing far beyond his draft status. 50% of first round picks bust. By no means should a player playing at a Pro Bowl level be the expectation of a first round pick.
     
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    How so? Are teams forced to make a pick? They choose where they draft a player, and thus are choosing what to pay him.
     
  29. STColeridge

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    If I said he sucks, that is too harsh. He does not suck. I think on a good team, he's the second CB, the primary. If he's the primary, its going to be rough sledding for the defense. But he does not suck. I think I called him a chump, which just means hes not going to win against the opponents primary WR most times.
     
  30. STColeridge

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    No, its not wrong at all for you to have an opinion about the player. Why is it that you feel the need for me or others validate your opinion...its yours--you are entitled to it. I think hes CLEARLY not living up to his contract. Hes' getting abused like a rappers girl. But, if you think based on last year's overall performance he'll improve, okay. Let's hope you are right.
     
  31. STColeridge

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    I dunno...I think when you pick a guy in the first round, that comes with high expectations.
     
  32. Stringer Bell

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    You're certainly free to think whatever you want, but that doesn't mean those are realistic expectations. The reality is that 50% of first round picks become busts. Anytime you can draft someone that is playing at a level like Pouncey is, that is exceeding expectation.
     
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    ROFLMAO. Yes, a team could technically not pick player in the draft to avoid the rookie cap. That's a bit of a stretch, though...no?
     
  34. Stringer Bell

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    No, teams trade down all the time. The Patriots for a while made a habit of trading down, precisely because first round picks were overpaid.
     
  35. STColeridge

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    I totally disagree with you on this.
     
  36. Stringer Bell

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    By all means, feel free to provide the evidence that the average first round pick performs at a level like Pouncey has.
     
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    But...when the pick a player in whatever round, that players salary is slotted to where he is picked.

    This is silly. Rookies salaries are slotted, bottom line. Nothing else to really say about that.
     
  38. Stringer Bell

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    Right, so you know exactly what you are going to pay, should you choose that player. The imperative word being choose, not forced.
     
  39. STColeridge

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    Richmond Webb, Joe Thomas, Orlando Pace, Iaupti in SF, his brother in Pittsburgh, the guard in GB thats hurt now....is that enough? I can look up more..these are just off the top of my head.
     
  40. invid

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    Rookie salaries coincide with the overall pick, which can be changed at anytime by the team making that pick. Slotted? Yes. But not out of a team's control in the least bit.
     

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