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Dolphins trade for Bryant Mckinnie

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by shaunm000, Oct 21, 2013.

  1. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    Yes...yes we should have. Oh well.
     
  2. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    :dunno:

    Takes time to learn the playbook they may not be 100% sure to stick him out there.
     
  3. jw3102

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    He had a role yesterday. His role was to remain in civilian clothes and be placed on the inactive roster for the game. The more we get into this season, the more the 2013 draft class is beginning to look like another miss by our great GM Ireland.

    In a few weeks when it becomes apparent to everyone that this team will once again be nothing but mediocre again this season, perhaps the coaching staff will finally let these rookies have some playing time, so we can see if they can help in the future or not. The fact Jordan is continuing to get so little playing time after six games should be a concern for those who thought this was a great pick.

    The Bills yesterday had a rookie middle LB who leads the NFL in tackles and already has four interceptions this season. He was taken in the second round of the draft and he plays on every defensive down for the Bills. Yet the first defensive player taken in the entire draft can't seem to get much playing time for this ordinary Dolphin defense. I keep hearing that Jordan is going to be a great player in the NFL. It is time the Dolphins quit feeding us this crap and let Jordan show us all if he is a future great player or merely the situational player he appears to be so far.

    eam.
     
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  4. Anonymous

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    This apologist crap, what is this? What does that mean?
     
  5. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    Don't worry... if we beat New England then PSG will create a "I'm sorry, I was wrong" thread.
     
  6. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If Sherman changes his entire philosophy of situational football, if we can cut out some of the turnovers, and if Sturgis gets back in the groove, we have a chance. We have lost three games. Only one was a blowout. The other two were by a field goal.
     
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  7. Rick 1966

    Rick 1966 Professional Hipshooter

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    Hindsight? What about all those people who said we should trade for Albert before the season?
     
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  8. dullfandan

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    jordan is jes a situational player right now.. He's about 20 lbs to small for his height and a possible liability against the run.. Sure he will make plays and can run down rb's but more often than not power tackles will pancake him... He is a speed rusher in passing situations and until he puts on some weight that's all he will be.. You think his shoulder hurts now, wait til a 300 lb pulling guard lays some wood to him... He has talent, I'm not saying he won't be a playmaker but he is a work in progress and not worthy of a top ten pick for a team with depth at that position already and no depth on the other side of the trenches.. Hopefully McKinney can help cut down the sacks but Jordan won't even them out...
     
  9. jw3102

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    Sorry but I expect far more than a, "work in progress", for the player the Dolphins gave up their first round pick and a second round pick to move up and take with the third overall pick in the draft. This team needed a great draft and impact players from that draft to come in and contribute immediately. If the Dolphins were a great team, they could wait on players in the draft to develop over the course of a few years.
    This Dolphin team, with limited talent on the roster couldn't afford to draft players in the early rounds of the draft who need a few years before they may or may not become starters in the NFL.

    Once again, proof Ireland has no clue what he is doing as an NFL GM.
     
  10. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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    about 60lbs huge
     
  11. dparla

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    If we beat NE??? Did you watch the game yesterday? We will be lucky if we can score against them. It's just another mediocre year for a mediocre team. I love your passion but get real dude.
     
  12. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I'm not sure what there is to applaud in this trade. The Dolphins basically gave up a draft pick for a player who was demoted from the starting OL of the Ravens. His play has declined over the past few years and while Clabo has been a complete failure with the Dolphins. I don't see McKinnie being much better.

    As I stated earlier, the fact they had to give up a draft pick to get an over the hill player who was just demoted, shows how bad the rest of the Dolphins backups on the OL really are.
     
  13. padre31

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    This is hillarious, "McKinney is the 65th rated tackle, Clabo the 66th!"

    Well snowflakes, we don't need a all around great LT, if one can be found this late in the year, we have to protect the Franchise..Ryan Tannehill, McKinney is a far far better pass blocker than Martin or Clabo, which is what we need this season.

    I don't put Clabo on Jeff Ireland, he was coming off of a fine year in Atlanta, still fairly young, just expensive, and uninjured, the move made sense..little could anyone have known he would fall this far this fast.
     
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  14. miamiron

    miamiron There's always next year

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  15. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Agree, but there was no alternative. The status quo could not continue. Something, regardlrss of how desperate, had to be done. Seeing that, in and of itself, rates applause.
     
  16. padre31

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    That does not include this yr's carnage, 6 games of mediocre to poor play, though I thought he played pretty well yesterday, he was not the problem on the offensive line.
     
  17. Alex13

    Alex13 Tua Time !!! Club Member

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    don't wanna hijack this thread but have you seen peyton last night, playing in a dome....it was noodle arm in full affect, his pocket presence and everything was fine, but man his arm is done
     
  18. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    As a late to camp rookie who lacked power and strength, he still was a better Right Tackle than Clabo just based off these numbers. Crazy how bad Clabo has been.
     
  19. cuchulainn

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    Yeah, he'll probably never throw 7 TDs in a game again. He'll probably only be good for 3 or 4. :shifty:
     
  20. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    There were also a lot of people concerned about the compensation and the contract he was looking for... as well as health concerns. I don't think many people expected Tyson Clabo to regress this much. He was the fifth rated right tackle according to PFF in 2012 (because people seem to quote that as the Bible nowadays) and only allowed six sacks.
     
  21. VanDolPhan

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    The only problem I have with this trade is that it should have been recognized earlier and we should have gotten in on the Eugene Monroe trade. Eugene Monroe would have at least solidified the LT position for cheaper then the resources this team will have to use in the offseason.

    I wonder if this isn't a double move though. McKinnie in for Martin, Yeatman in for Clabo?
     
  22. roy_miami

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  23. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    I think they were in the talks for Monroe, there were rumors. They just got outbid i guess by Ozzie. So this is a fall back deal.
     
  24. dullfandan

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    And with the 12th pick of the draft the dolphins select og Kyle long... With the 42 pick dolphins select cb johnthan banks... With the 54 pick the dolphins select wr Keenan Allen ? Ot terron Armstrong ? Rb Eddie lacy.... Dion Jordan and jamar Taylor...
     
  25. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I think they'll either test McKinnie at right tackle or move Martin to right tackle and McKinnie will stay at left tackle.
     
  26. 77FinFan

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    Holy crap, just saw this!!!!! Breathe, breathe.
     
  27. Jaj

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    I'm going to guess that he'll play RT and is an insurance policy for Martin at LT.
     
  28. Bpk

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    Can we flip Clabo for something? Maybe trade him to Buffalo for Dan Carpenter?
     
  29. padre31

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    Have to think that is what will happen, a double switch, Martin is objectively better at RT, Mckinnie is objectively better than Martin at LT.

    Tyson Clabo really screwed this franchise.
     
  30. VanDolPhan

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    FYI. Martin and Clabo have given up the most sacks/hits/hurries combined that they rank #2 and #4 for such. #1 Mitchell Schwartz in Cleveland 8/11/17 and #3 Eric Winston 6/5/23

    Hurries are up league wide with 20 tackles having given up at least 15 this year. Key is not letting those hurries turn into sacks/hits.

    To those that wanted Lane Johnson. He's 6th at 5/4/25.
     
  31. Onehondo

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    If they don't sort things out and they continue to play like they have the last three games its going to get real ugly in here. There is going to be a deluge of Ireland sucks threads and posts. Its probably going to start negative threads about Philbin and everybody else connected with management. As far as the Mckinnie trade is concerned its a lose/lose situation for Ireland. If Mckinnie goes to left tackle its an acknowledgement that Martin is a failed experiment at LT. If Mckinnie goes to right tackle he is going to be put in a position he is not familiar with and if he struggles there what do they do next? Of course if Mckinnie plays okay at LT and Martin improves at RT it could quiet down criticism and let Tannehill settle down a little bit. I imagine Tannehill is glad they are trying to do something with the offensive line.
     
  32. padre31

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    Depends, coverage pressures happen, what those two allowed was INSTANT pressure and that leads to turnovers and injuries.

    Also think Dpate is correct, this group is not good at zone blocking, adding McKinnie is nice but we also have to change our philsophy in what they want the OL to do.
     
  33. padre31

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    Not so, he played 11 games at RT last yr and was a better RT than LT

    This is why McKinnie will play LT
     
  34. cdz12250

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    Tyson Clabo did not screw this franchise. The general manager and coaching staff who ignored the problems on the offensive line that even my maiden Aunt Matilda could see, screwed this franchise.
     
  35. Nappy Roots

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    This is awful
     
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  36. GARDENHEAD

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    end thread
     
  37. padre31

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    Disagree, Clabo either no longer cares, or he is concealing an injury.
     
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  38. cdz12250

    cdz12250 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Interesting possibility. And I doubt he no longer cares, because he wants to keep playing.
     
  39. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Does it really matter?
     
  40. padre31

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    So did Albert Haynesworth...:wink:

    Seriously CDZ, what we are seeing out of him is simply stunning, it is not scheme, he's just getting ragdolled at the snap, which tells me either he did not put in the work to prepare for the season, or he has a shoulder injury that he concealed.

    I put Colombo on Ireland b/c his tape was that bad, Clabo was totally unexpected, there is a reason for it.
     

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