A bruised, battered Tannehill for Dolphins

I have to say this though. There's something about that right tackle position. I don't know. Maybe it's just a string of bad luck.

Think about it. Vernon Carey played really well in 2008-09, but Jeff Ireland inherited him. The guy Jeff Ireland tabbed for the position was Marc Colombo. Then he drafted Jonathan Martin who as a rookie played equally bad as Colombo. Now they grab Tyson Clabo who has played as bad as both, if not worse.

That's either a string of really bad luck, or just not very good understanding of the position.

 

I've been using the Fort Knox analogy for years. Taking Jake Long over Matt Ryan was like Fortifying the front of Fort Knox, with the two sides and back doors left open, with no gold inside.

 

You forgot Evan Mathis. We let him get away. He's been the best guard in football arguably for a number of years ever since.

 

The oline has been a comedy of errors under Ireland. As for the draft, as much as I like Jordan, I do wonder if we wouldn't have been better off sitting right where we were, taking Tyler Eifert and then coming back with Watson at 42. Still could've take Taylor at the later 2nd rounder if that's who they liked.

 

First off, i was saying make hime a TE at the phins i know he played WR and he played wr because his QB skills werent up to par, secondly i think you need to rewatch the first 4 plays, he never looked at any other reciever so how could pressure get to him? secondly if it is pressure he would get sacked on 5 step drops not 3, which he does on both counts but its easy too bull rush on a qb who knowingly only takes a 3 step drops, on the last fumble he takes a 5 step drop mario williams pretty much goes in front to allow tanney to roll out. But your right!!!! ya because andy ried sits idely by right so does cheat carrol and harbough but ya ur right again make a better point thats valid you pick a 1-6 team to make a point when the guy has one two superbowls doing so. but fill right again.

Like i said miller at half was 4-33 yards and thomas was like 9-33 so id say miller shoulda stayed in, i like daniel for the switch up but do you switch it up to make a point or should your run the guys with success, i guess in your head you run to make a point not success.

and you would sound like the type of guy who puts the blame on the D when they got you the ball back on the scoring side of the field and you go 3/out on a 53 yard fg but ya the defense didnt do enough, maybe you should say our offense was 3/13 on third down, last time i checked if you score more points you win, and if tannehill doesnt allow the bills defense to score you win 21-16 CORRECT? but your right again!!!

 

HEres the deal not many people can come in like dan marino elway and stick with it, name one qb besides matty ice right now who started as a rookie and has succeeded? Rodger, no 2 or 3 years behind favre, favre himself 2 years in atl he needs time to learn the NFL game not college i just dont get why people play the line so much, tampa bay has the worst line and that rookie has no issues throwing deep, even the eagles who prolly have the worst line they go deep all the time.

and why the read option i like it for a trick or to throw a screw ball, your rb are not fast enough and in your case the line isnt good enough.


MATT moore had 16td to 9 int in 2011 and played in 13 games after Henne got hurt, the guy won 6-9 final games and an 87 qbr after he learned the offense who i might add had a powerhouse Pats team in the division then the next yr you sit him out?

 

THANK YOU everyone is quick to blame them and there really avg, last night freeman took snaps from his *** all ngiht!!!

 

That Jake Long pick had Bill "blue print from the 1980's" Parcells all over it.

I'm not going to give Ireland a free pass as he has done a horrible job assembling an OL.

 

This is true, for whatever reason, OL do better elsewhere than in Miami, Smith, Mathis,Thomas et al, even a no brainer signing like Clabo goes up like the Hindenberg pulling into Jersey.


JJerry and Martin are just avg NFL offensive linemen

And on and on it goes, the one constant has been Ireland, though I thought Tony Maser did a great job here and of course he was fired.

 

I still have high hopes for Tanny. He's had 41 career NFL and college starts thus far and that's not a lot. I would love to know how that compares to other starters in the league. Major O line issues in there are definitely part of the problem. I like his attitude, maturity and skill set. I don't like that he seems to cough up the ball pretty easily. I think it was the Saints where he ran up the middle, was barely touched, and coughed it up. Hate that. He has to make some better decisions w/ the ball. I will be really excited for the start of 2015 when he's sitting on close to 70 starts.

 

No argument about him needing to protect the ball better. but he wasn't "barely touched" when he fumbled against the Saints IMO.

 

You don't take a 3 step drop to survey the field. You take a 3 step drop for speed. In this case because our OLine sucks and has sucked all season. Tannehill isn't leading the league in sacks because he decided it would be a cool record to have, nor because he is holding the ball too long. He has a very fast release and is decisive with the ball - even when he makes the wrong decision, he gets it out in a hurry.

Take that strip sack play in the 4th you just mentioned - Sims, Clay, and Thomas ALL blew their blocking assignments as well as well as Clabo. Clay released off the LOS WITHOUT ever engaging or slowing up pass rusher Jerry Hughes. Clay was focused on getting a fast release off the LOS. As a result, Hughes got into the backfield in under a second. Was that part of the plan?


Sims also was in to block, but he blocked down on the play and also never engaged Hughes. That left Daniel Thomas the impossible task of trying to stop Hughes by himself. That is a laugher. As CK pointed out - Thomas set up too close to Tannehill in the pocket (think sieve) and tried to block Hughes flat-footed instead of using any momentum to attack the pass rusher. The result was Hughes picking Thomas up and throwing him directly in the air and straight back into Tannehill from the left. Hughes literally threw him into Tannehill.


Even if Clabo had held his block or swept Williams to the outside, Tannehill was going to be hit by the thrown Thomas right as he was trying to release the ball. It would have been recorded as a "hit as threw" attempt and probably another inaccurate pass. It might have even been intercepted, given the positioning that Aaron Williams had on Hartline that play. You seem to forget that receivers need a couple seconds to get down field and hopefully open. They just don't magically appear 10 to 20 yards away. That takes time.

In under 2 seconds, Tannehill was thrashed. He was taking pressure from both pass rushers. Really cool pic of Thomas with his legs in the air around Hughes below:




The defense still allowed over 47% of 3rd down conversions. Sure they were dealt a bad hand with the Pick 6, but Tannehill overcame that before the half with 2 TDs. Spin it anyway you want. Against a team as bad as the Bills, that is ridiculous.

 

He was using the Jedi Mind Trick on Alonso.

 

Fair enough.

 

This is a very odd thing people assert nowadays. I realize it's a popular perception. But the fact of the matter is Parcells had never taken an offensive lineman in the 1st round at any point where he had say over personnel. In fact, he quite famously traded out of the pick where Orlando Pace was taken, and then subsequently traded out of the pick where Walter Jones was taken, in order to take James Farrior the linebacker at 8 overall in 1997.

There was a very strong argument leading into that draft from people saying that Jake Long was NOT going to be the pick, and that argument specifically centered on Bill Parcells and the tendencies he'd established over the previous decades.

The highest a Parcells-GM'd team had ever taken an offensive lineman prior to Jake Long was Randy Thomas at 57 overall. On the other hand, Parcells was the GM of the Jets when they took Chad Pennington in the 1st round, and I believe he had personnel authority in New England when they took Drew Bledsoe #1 overall. All personnel authority in Dallas resided with Jerry Jones who is the official General Manager of the team, but it's good to note that even there the highest they drafted an OL was Al Johnson at 38 overall.

Parcells' history as a General Manager in the first round mostly centers around defensive linemen and linebackers. That's where the bulk of his picks always went.

 

That pic is funny and sad at the same time.

 

Coggy wasnt going to have any input with that play for what it's worth. Rush was from the outside, if it was from A gap he was there. Thats how it plays out sometimes.