Great Piece on Tannehill vs. Bills by Football Outsiders

if your going to blame the OL and not tannehill because its his second year? OK then answer me this why does a brand new rookie in mike glennon for tampa only have 3 int to 6 td and tannehill has 9 td to 7 picks both with around an 80 qbr and glennon has a worse line than the dolphins. People need to start with the source and stop giving credit where its not due. Tannehill is below average, shows average at times. I dont know why people blame merely the line and because he is in his 2nd year. Play calling is horrible tannehills decisions are horrible his inability to scramble and look off a safety and go through his progressions. Tannehill will not roll out if its not designed for the play he will not step up in the pocket his feet are stuck in concrete behind the line

 

I love when people blame fg kickers, if you score td you dont need to kick fg, why not say the offense got the ball on the scoring side by a turnover and the offense went 3 and out and made hime kick a 52 yarder, why not one first down so its a manageable 35-40 yarder?

 

well said someone with a little football sense!!!!

 

HEY GENO BEAT THE PATS!!!!! who by far are the shooting mark for the AFC EAST

 

I remember everyone saying this same BS for HENNE, and honestly i woulda taken a running back or wr, and let matt moore have the snaps and got a good draft pick, tannehill will be a back up in the next 5 years. countdown starting now!!!

 

Offensive turnovers is putting our D in repeatedly disadvantageous positions, which is why there is a disparity, imo, between the cumulative rankings and the points we see scored against us. The pick six, for example, is not against our D, but when we see the point stats opponents have scored against us it's hard to remember all these minor details.

 

It could also mean the coach is not doing a good enoiugh job getting the parts to work in a system that gives the greatest returns.

I mean, a good coach can create a system where the sum is greater than the parts.

Here we may have a coach creating a system where the sum is less than the parts.

 

B/c FG kickers are accountable as well.

 

OK LOOK AT THE MOST MISSED FG THERE OVER 50+ yards blame the offense for going 3 and out Jesus its crazy the offense got a gift and just pissed it away. Everyone who gets a turnover takes a shot the play after, what do we do? we run the ball 3 times and try and wr reverse or some bs gets stuff and ok kicker win the game since the guy who is paid to win games cant do it.

 

He gets paid to make those Fg's, 2 2pt losses do not automatically fall on the Qb.

 

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All the hoopin' and hollerin' about Tannehill makes me sick. If the folks who are decrying his performance would go back and look at the first three years of St. Drew's career, they might have enough perspective to not jump off the Biscayne Bay Bridge.

But, if they want to jump - let them go ahead. It might reduce the fretting and fidgeting enough to have more of a semblance of perspicacity on the board. I suspect they are having a whale of a good time over at FH in the grumbling and complaining department!

TTFN

 

are you kidding me? u must have been a fg kicker in high school or something. you throw a pick 6 and have 3 turnovers and you lose by 2 pts but blame the kicker, you must be on the dolphins staff cuz they dont see anything wrong w that either. So your saying if tannheill gets em to the 50 and sturgis misses a 63 yarder you should blame sturgis, your high!!! the blame is the offense80% of the league gets the ball on the 40 after a turnover i garuntee dont settle for a 52 yard fg against a suspect defense like the bills. Id give you it if he missed a 30 yarder maybe even a 40 yarder but not 2 50 yarders

 

2 last minute penalties gave the Jets 2 wins, nothing to do with Geno other than being there for a late hit

 

Another reason to have a "Post Sucks" button somewhere on the screen. This makes as much sense as Dohenny being convicted of accepting the bribe that Gilhooley was acquitted of offering.

I am not making any kind of comparison to Dan Marino, but anyone can see there is more of Marino in Tannehills eyes and demeanor than Henne.

Henne was scared (from Hennings Never-Ever-Make-a-Mistake coaching!) Tannehill is different. Tannehill is not scared - if anything he is focused and determined to make something happen. He is making throws despite the pocket looking like a collander, being in the process of being swatted, having receivers forget routes, don't know when to sit and when to run, and sometimes seem to have KY Jelly on the hands and not stickum. Throw in a lot of playcalling that is mostly vanilla with an occasional strawberry thrown in just for a change of flavor.

Tannehill is doing what young quarterbacks do. It is impatient, immediate gratification demanding fans who expect rookies and sophomores to play at astronomical levels and don't allow them to grow who are more dangerous to young quarterbacks than defensive tackles.

And you are entitled to your opinion. My opinion is that yours is asinine.

 

HAHAH its funny to say now but as he was the qb everyone was stroking off about him he was horrible now that hes gone you have an opinion about him? AND HOW THE HELL CAN Tannehill isnt scared? you must watch a different game than i do, tannehill will not throw to anyone covered he wants everyone wide open, an nfl qb hould be able to fit a sidleine deep rout in over the cb under the safety and tannehill will not throw it. In the NFL everyone is covered and hes too afraid to throw them, point taken why he still throws 5-10 yard outs and slant patterns.

YA i will give you hes focused, hes focused on the the one receiver hes supposed to throw too why the hell do you think people sit on routes and take his stuff to the house, he doesn not do progressions he can step up in the pocket roll out or anything.

why my point is he needs to study, cam newton did fine as a rookie, so did tom brady so did mat ryan, im sure aaron rodgers would have, dolphin fans always want to sitback and say oh it will get batter, guess what it hasnt got better in 20 years, matt moore should be taking snaps and tannehill should be watching and learning, not saying matt moore is the best to learn from but he gives you the best chace to win and tannehill could be ready next yr

 

Your "points" get lost in all the blather you spew...

Brady didn't start as a rookie. He only had 3 plays total. He didn't even start until game 3 of his second season. He came in during the 4th qtr of the second game against the stej after Bledsoe was injured off a hit and lost for the season. In 2001/2002, Brady was sacked 72 times, had 23 fumbles, and threw 26 INTs during his first two seasons starting.

Matt Ryan put up comparable numbers to what we're seeing from Tannehill. Matt Ryan's second season, he threw for 2,916 yards, 22 TDs & 14 INTs. That was with Roddy White, Tony Gonzales, and at the time, a very good Michael Turner...

Aaron Rodgers didn't start for YEARS. You have no idea how he would have fared as a rookie.

Tannehill is currently on pace to put up close to 24 TDs, 3972 yards, 17 Ints, and 13 fumbles. More INTs and fumbles than you want, but then the protection has been very poor...

 

Welcome to the ignore list.

 

Whats funny is you didn't say bradys stats, because it didn't help you out. Didnt matty ice turn the falcons around he took a 4-12 team and his record was 11-5 in his rookie year, but i guess that's not good your right, oh and i think he played in an NFC championship game in 5 years didn't he? oh your right, we are looking at the same bs 8-8 year and we are going to come in 2nd and miss a wild card. i wish i knew who you were so in 5 years i could call you when tannehill is a backup for the giants or something.

DO I think tannehill has the tools to be good absolutely, he needs to study and throw the ball down the field or he will never have success in the NFL, bubble screens and slant patterns do not work in the league that is the NFL at a&m yes, mike sherman should know this.


AND DO STATS WIN GAMES? TONY ROMO THREW OVER 500 YARDS AND STILL LOST HIS GAME ALL THAT MATTERS IS YOU WIN, AND HE IS NOT GOING TO WIN THROWING 17 INTS AND 13 FUMBLES PERIOD!!!!!!!!

 

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hahah i wasn't agreeing geno is legit, all i was saying is he beat the pats, something well see if we can do on sunday!!!

 

You guys are really sleeping on Geno. He has a better arm than Tannehill, can make all the throws, poise in the pocket and he accomplishes this without half the weapons Miami has. Don't say I didn't warn ya.

 

Tannehill is far from perfect...but he is not the reason we are losing these games. I think the Henne-era scarred us so bad that we are expecting every QB to fail on this team...and that just isn't the case here. Tannehill might not ever make the Hall of Fame, or even Pro bowl, but the guy is "good" and steadily progressing into being "great".


I absolute agree with the article when it states that the reason Buffalo didn't have any more sacks...was because of Tannehill himself. Maybe something good can be pulled out of this garbage o-line; if Ryan is forced into becoming more mobile and evasive and passing on the run...and getting good at it...ultimately he will become a deadly scrambler. I was really impressed by how Ryan single-handled gets himself out of trouble and into where he can throw a competitive pass. The Mike Wallace reception was beautiful, and even the last play of the game was a chance at victory due to Tannehill's agility.

 

Also penalties and last minute breaks are part of the game. The greats win games such as those. Not saying Geno is great but don't sleep on him

 

RT or Geno? I take RT w/o batting an eye

 

Wait till Geno's second year, a different tune will be sung. Tannehill is good but Geno has a better arm and is is simply more accurate. Geno has made some throws that NFL veterans struggle with.

 

Jets fans, Trolls, and Blowhards...Oh My

 

Id take 4-3 rather than 3-4, just saying...

 

Brady didn't have rookie stats and was on a playoff team. As for the other blather, you're moving the goal posts in your responses.

Call me? You're out of mind, Mr. Herlihy. You can reach me here.

Tony Romo now... well why not Peyton Manning? He lost a Colts team that we beat with Tannehill at QB. But that doesn't count. We probably only got lucky.

 

Stop. Please, stop. Miami had beaten better teams than the Jets and NY was lucky they beat the hapless Bucs. And before you start in with me, I'm a Jets fan. I'm just realistic.

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Luck??? Luck is only in horseshoes, if a team makes bad decisions to incur penalties at the end of the game, they aren't as disciplined as the team across from them, which makes the team across from them better. The only team that the dolphins beat were the Colts. A team that the chargers beat as well.

 

And the ignore list grows

 

Geno Smith's attitude is reason alone I wouldn't want him. Not saying he won't be better than Tanny, though.

 

This was the same crock that nawrocki and others were pushing before draft. So far its being proved false and as fake as fools gold. Geno has a great approach to the game, the desire to get better and be elite. The only type of quarterback that will win championships are elite.

 

This highlights the problem with people. They would rather live in fantasyland and dream like the st louis fans did with bradford rather than wake up and smell reality stinging their nostrils.

 

Lol. How about it's the crock that is coming directly from Geno's mouth?

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...snt-think-watching-tape-on-revis-is-necessary

 

The buccaneers where playing a completely different style of coverage than what revis played before. Watching film on him with the jets would only get you in trouble. By the way, he didn't do to badly against revis that game. So thats a mute point off the bat.

 

Do you think the two teams deserved those penalties?, because if it weren't for those two specific penalties your 2 and 5.

 

Rypien = elite. Johnson = elite. Hostetler = elite. Williams = elite. Dilfer = elite.

 

Or maybe people just disagree with the little bit of factual backing you have provided behind blanket statements like these. And you cant provide factual backing because at this point theres not enough real data to do a comparison. Just remember that last year at this time Tannehill was on his way to becoming a great QB. And IMO he is well ahead of where Geno Smith is. Geno just has the benefit of an OL that keeps him upright.

 

What is BS about what I said? Fact Tanny has a better QB rating then those 4 QB's. Fact he has thrown fewer picks the Eli, Flacco, Schaub, and the great Geno. Fact he has a higher completion % the Brady, RGIII, Kap, Flacco, Alex Snith and the great Geno. Fact he has thrown more TD's then Brady, Flacco, RGIII, Big Ben, Kap and the great Geno. Fact he has been sacked the most times this year.

Does Tanny still have a lot to work on? Yes he does but that is to be expected from a QB that only started what 19 College games and 21 pro games. IMHO he is doing a darn good job and looks better every time I see him (I don't get to see all the games anymore).