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Sports Buzz: How Tannehill's first 25 starts compare with top-20 QBs

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jim1, Nov 17, 2013.

  1. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Well that's the point. Their QBs don't have to be great in order to make fun of my QB.

    I tell my steelers buddy how awful their offensive line is 10 times a Sunday. But guess what? Ours is pretty bad.
     
  2. rtl1334

    rtl1334 New Member

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    Oh we've paid dearly for the Marino years. No question about that. I think people are afraid of Henne because they know what a Henne looks like. Discarding stats, Tannehill has passed the "eyeball" test of being an NFL starter where Henne never did. He's at the very least a capable NFL starter.

    Where some question his mettle, don't discount the value of that throw against the Ravens, the drive against the Bengals and even the plays today to get us off the 5 yard line. He didn't get the kill so people forget it took some guile to get us out of that hole. That's what franchise QBs do and I actually don't even recall Pennington making those kinds of plays for us.

    As for your friends laughing about our QB, just tune it out because it's just noise. In fact, they may be negatively influencing your opinion of Tannehill. Ultimately, people see what they want to see and the truth always washes out in the end. How many times were we fed that Sanchez was a future star at QB because of the 2 Conference games? Anyone could watch and see that he was not an NFL QB. It just took 4 years for that to finally bear out.
     
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  3. rtl1334

    rtl1334 New Member

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    I have a good friend who (this week at least) is a Seattle fan. All I hear is how Wilson is the top QB of the 2012 Draft and budding superstar.

    Maybe one day he will be and we hear it a lot from the media. As for me...I see a QB protected by a dominant runner and the best defence in football. As well, he rarely passes over 30 times a game and most are high percentage/low risk plays, often with half field reads. When was the last time he was asked to sit in the pocket and sling it all over the field? One day, he'll be expected to do this and it'll be at that time when we find out if he's a top QB or not.

    These are things Tannehill is already expected to do.
     
  4. finsincebirth

    finsincebirth Well-Known Member

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    First I think there is no way Ryan is a Henne. Second all I'm trying to point out is that Ryan is improving and he's playing solid. Like I said he has things to fix, and I think we should have faith he will recognize and work on these things and try to fix them next year. Also I wouldn't say Dolphins fans are spoiled, rather they have grown impatient and it's preventing them as a collective to give the first real possible successor to Dan a chance to prove it.
    Your friend who is a Bucs fan is an idiot. Ignore everything he says.
     
  5. finsincebirth

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    I think the biggest thing we need to ask, is can a QB improve his deep ball accuracy? I honestly don't know if it's one of those things you either have or don't have. If it's an improvable trait then I have faith that Ryan will work on it and hopefully improve and hit the next level. If not, then it will certainly become a serious issue and limit his career with us.
     
  6. Nappy Roots

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    I think your sorely missing the Wilson boat. He's flat out really really good.
     
  7. rtl1334

    rtl1334 New Member

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    He is no Sanchez but he is the most "protected" QB from the 2012 Draft. Yes he is good but it will take some years, once Lynch is gone and the defence is somewhat gutted, to find out how good he truly is. Right now, I'm just not convinced he can sit back in the pocket and sling it all over the field to bring his team from behind. Right now, they are rarely behind and the threat of getting pounded by Lynch is too great. This is a ridiculous advantage.
     
  8. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Oline is a pretty big part of it. In order to throw a deep ball, you need 3-4 good seconds in the pocket. Can you say Tannehill has that? Ever? Even when the blockings there, its never strong enough for him to step up and deliver the way he should be able to.
     
  9. finsincebirth

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    Sometimes he is rushed and doesn't have a chance to step into the throw. However the one today that he missed was solely his fault, and there have been a few others. I think he has only had one perfect deep ball and that was the one where Wallace got tackled before he could get under it.
     
  10. CitizenSnips

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    yeah but how rare is that? Its happened a few times but most of the time it doesnt. It certainly ruins timing. hes also connected a few times too. (ravens game, colts game) and as you mentioned if not for the PI Wallace walks in the game winner against cincy. theres reason to believe they'll hammer it out.
     
  11. rtl1334

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    You absolutely can improve your deep ball accuracy but it's not as simple as that. It's a timing issue as the speed of players varies so greatly. For proof of this, Tannehill has a better read on Hartline's deep speed than he does for Wallace'. As well, which deep part of the field you attack is an issue as the deep middle allows for a lot more error from the QB.

    Luck is a good example. There have been many times where he misfired on a deep pass to Hilton. Hilton, however, often attacks the mid-right part of the field which allows for some error on Luck's part. As well, Hilton has shown the willingness to adjust to misfired passes which leads to PIs or TDs. Tannehill is not getting these opportunities within the scheme or from the receivers.
     
  12. finsincebirth

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    Unfortunately even on many of their connections Tanny underthrows Wallace. I wonder if he is simply thinking too much and not just letting it go.
     
  13. rtl1334

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    And you're touching on another issue. We don't attack teams deep often enough. I've seen so many games where Brady, Brees and many other lesser QBs miss deep passes but they never stop attacking. What a message that is to a defence...if we don't connect on our first deep pass we're going to scrap it from the playbook for the rest of the game.
     
  14. MAFishFan

    MAFishFan Team Tannehill

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    Yeah he's missed some deep balls. Hard to "keep attacking" deep when you have less than 3 seconds to throw.
     

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