I think Tannys problem is that he is too tentative .He is throwing to a spot when he should be letting it rip and let Wallace run under it.There is still hope they will get together.Lets hope its vs the Panthers.
Exactly, There have been a few that I feel alot of #1 wideouts would have fought for and came down with. He needs to be more aggressive on that!
Contrast this response to RGIII's after throwing the pick. Ryan is showing leadership here. RGIII isn't.
Is it unfair to contrast Tannehill's quotes with the quotes RG III made after the Washington Redskins' loss and the brouhaha that is stirring up there? Pulling from Bleacher Report http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1858271-robert-griffin-iiis-comments-spark-rebuttal-from-santana-moss: Teammates have gone to the airwaves to point out that RG III threw the WRs and protection under the bus, and that he called the wrong protection on the play. So, yeah, contrast that with Tannehill taking the blame for missing on the long throws to Wallace (despite what a lot of people see as Wallace a lot of times not adjusting properly, fighting for the ball, and going up to catch balls at their highest point when he can), and it reflects well on Tannehiill. And now something has leaked about Shanahan preferring Tannehill to Griffin in that draft? We got our problems, for sure, but there's some locker room problems up in Washington, too, it looks like.
Tannehill is trying to show leadership by taking accountability, but it's really a 1-2 combination. Tannehill has to let it rip, yes, but Wallace also needs to catch the passes when the football floats near his hands.
First thing I thought of as well. I've been saying all season Tannehill is aiming the ball. Like a pitcher aiming for a spot as opposed to throwing it. You lose velocity and movement. Tannehill needs to throw it deep!!!!! gun it kid! Stop trying to place it!
It's early in RG3's career and obviously he's talented and could turn things around at any time. But there were not very many people AT ALL who criticized RG3 as a high draft pick on the basis of his personality and leadership ability. Very few of us. But there were signs, on and off the field.
THill will show leadership by sticking the next throw to Wallace, NOT by anything he has to say afterwards. It's a results business folks, words mean nothing at all
That usually means "fire the ball as far as you can and see if he can get to it." The comments about 'placing' the ball are dead on. Playing catcher, if you tried to place the ball when throwing to 2nd on a steal, you usually foul up and throw it anywhere by where you wanted it to go. You have to learn to trust your arm and when you see the runner move, stand up and fire the ball - let it rip. QB's have the same type of read, recognition, and reaction situations. There is not time to analyze, just stand up, see it, and let your arm and instinct from years of throwing in the Lord alone knows how many situations take over and make the throw!
He gets paid 60 mil, isnt performing and practicing more to fix it "just isn't what he does". **** Mike Wallace.
There was a lot of talk here about him though right? That you get the feeling football was beneath him?
Lol... See...this is where I think we have the perfect guy to work with Tannehill. What is holding Tannehill back is...he needs some of this... [video=youtube;A1lyFezBSbk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1lyFezBSbk[/video] "I throw better then anybody in College, and I can throw better then anybody in the pros. There, thats what I think" "Theres no defense for the perfect pass. I can throw a perfect pass" Tannehill needs that Marino swagger now. He needs to say...Look...Im gonna chuck it..and its gonna be your fault if you dont catch it.
beat me to it, I've been saying since the offseason that that dude was out of control in the ego dept and that it was going to affect him in some capacity..glad Ryan took the opposite route
The other thing Ive noticed about Dan Marino's throws... His trajectory. Yeh...he gets some loft on it...but his deep balls werent like...high trajectory bombs...more of like a fast arc.
I agree with all of you. He keeps trying to hit Wallace exactly, that is where he fails. On long balls, I teach my QBs, to throw to a spot on the field. For my kids its 40 yards downfield a but in this case it would be 60-70 yards downfield and let Wallace to run under it and make his adjustments while tracking the ball. Not you hit him perfectly in a straight line. I said this last year and I've said it this year. This is why many of his long balls go out of bounds. He's aiming for Wallace instead of an area that Wallace can get too. If he makes that change I will guarantee that we will see an huge increase of production from Wallace and this will open up the entire offense.
Seems to me we've heard this before from a certain former and legendary Dolphins QB. Words of wisdom for sure. Both to a certain extent IMO. But, more of earlier. He needs to anticipate more (which means trusting your receiver to run the proper route, and fight for the damn ball!). Honestly, Tanny can take all the blame, that's fine. I'd expect no less from the QB. But, Wallace is not without blame here. He needs to man up...bigtime.
In all honesty it doesn't matter about earlier unless there is a safety over top. If its true one on one like last game he just has to throw it to an area in play Wallace had his man beat and would have had him beat no matter how far he would have had to run. I think that is what Coach is trying to tell him. Jesus man, the guy is 3 yards open and your trying to be perfect just throw it and let Wallace go get it.
It's interesting that they asked Tannehill to fall on the sword for taking sacks when the offensive line was completely sucking @ss and the play-calling/coaching was only making it worse, and now they're asking Tannehill to fall on the sword again for this deep ball issue when the problem seems to be more centered on Wallace's inability to adjust to and fight for a football, and the play-calling/coaching only seems to be making it worse. Notice a pattern?
Let it Rip means...."I gotta cannon for an arm ... and I know Im gonna put it far enough down field for you to get it, but you better not drop it *****. "
Who said he was told to do that? Maybe he's just the type of leader to take the blame for the ills of others.
More of a question then anything... Why do you say..they are asking Tannehill to fall on the sword? Why couldnt it just be Tannehill saying, its my offense, and Im the one it all falls back on?
I think this is his leadership strategy. You don't hear Peyton blame anyone when his teams have lost in the past. Others... Brady like to rip everyone but themselves. I have a boss in my company, which is very successful, and he will take blame to his bosses for all the ills of our division. He knows all the issues and will come down on me or any of my co-workers to correct the issues, but never would anyone outside of him and the person he's talking to know that discussion happened. He will everytime and has proven it for the last 10 years, that he will take all fault even when pushed for who actually screwed up. That is why we have absolutely zero turnover at a Oilfield service company which is absolutely unheard of because of the lack of quality workers. His and my guys would go to the ends of the earth for him. Tannehill taking the blame because he is the face and he knows it, lets his guys have his back and will always have his back. I love when I hear him say these types of things.
I agree. And, I think he should take the blame. I've seen a number of times where Wallace was open or breaking free and RT not only does not let go of the ball, but he opts for a shorter route. This is as big a problem as not letting it rip. He needs to learn to read deep routes better so he can actually get the ball out there. I think RT's lack of ability to read defenses and show good instincts on passing is what is keeping him from becoming a good, upper tier QB and languishing in the lower-middle-class of QBs. He has a good, accurate arm. His mind and instincts simply are not good enough to last much longer in the NFL. If they don't change, he'll be benched next year and become a journeyman and Ireland will have another failed high draft pick. If he is able to change, it will be great for Miami. But, somethings gotta give.
Wallace does have some problems here but I think a lot of it is on RT - even more so, his fear of throwing the ball to Wallace when he has been open or holding on too long before he lets it fly. Of course, I also think the coaches have not effectively utilized Wallace's strengths.
I think we would see Wallace fight more if we also threw to him deep more than once a game. Our first series should almost alway include a long throw to Wallace. make him realize that we are going to go to him but also make the DC think about that all game.
Pattern? Absolutely. Almost like a script, but I believe if you check the credits, the one who had the line "Let it rip" in the original production, was Marino.
It's like being on a par 5 in golf with a wide fairway. That situation lets you really lay into it with your driver b/c there's less concern for accuracy. So Tannehill "letting it rip" in this instance is about stepping fully into the throw and really putting it out there with some loft on it to allow Wallace and his elite speed to track it down b/c, as the ball is in the air, you trustingly know the defender isn't catching Wallace if Mike is initially even with him or has a step. As a QB you're not worried about doing mental geometry by figuring out angles and distance of the throw in relation to Wallace's rate of speed like you would with Hartline b/c that leads to severe underthrows with a 4.28 receiver. You let her rip and allow Wallace to do the rest b/c, provided there's enough loft on it, Wallace can adjust his rate of speed to keep himself between the ball and the trailing defender who's typically too preoccupied with making up ground to be able to look for the ball, or Mike can tap into his reserve speed to catch up to it.
The one thing that always gives me hope about Tannehill, I saw moments when Tannehill was in practice where I swear I saw some ridiculous innate accuracy on display, I mean where I could tell he was aiming at certain spots on his receiver and getting it there, to the point where it got you excited about his arm talent..I saw a swagger when he was doing so..I think with him that moment where the game slows down hasn't quite happened yet like it was in practice for those four days..lets hope that confidence comes real soon.
I have seen Ryan playing mental geometry with his trajectory and arm speed, I've seen it so I know he's thinking to much..who cares if it's overthrown, incomplete pass, no big deal, you still get schematic benefits from letting Wallace pressure the top of the defense and you let defenders see how far Ryan can get the ball downfield, so even if he overthrows it there's still some positive. Wendy nix looks lovely today..
I took as he wants to stop trying to stick the ball on Wallace, instead just throw it out there and trust Wallace's ability to go get it. It's a good idea but I'm puzzled on why it's taken this long. Getting to a specific spot isn't Wallace's game, hitting 5th gear and running under rocket shots that no one else can catch up to absolutely his game. I'd love to see Tannehill execute his play fake, look way from Wallace to hold the deep help, and then without evening locating Wallace just launch one down the sideline. On regular drop back passes, RT should have plays where he makes up his mind pre-snap that he's gonna focus on buying some extra time (even at the expense of making his reads properly). Teams are playing us to throw the quick pass and when they see the 5 step drop they know what time it is. If RT buys additional second or 3 unexpectedly, that would give Wallace the chance to make the plays he so frequently made in Pittsburgh.
Guess at this point I'm just jumping on this bandwagon. I still think words are important. He is taking the heat on himself, focusing on controlling what he can control which is his own performance. I've not hear him say anything that wouldn't make me proud as a father.