The Organization has a "one voice" policy where only the coach speaks regarding team affairs during the season. We have to remember that we are all trying to infer the situation in Dolphinland based on what we are/are not hearing or seeing. Often times we are all way off base.
The top 3 guys were all hurt coming out of the draft so the team knew there was slim chance of them being major contributors this season. And again, you need to be able to see past the tip of your nose to get a view of why those guys are gone. Bush is pushing 30, Dansby and Burnett are 32 and 31. They're broadcasting what their plan is with loudspeakers.
I have been saying for the last few years that Ireland will not be fired. I felt like I KNEW that as a fact because of how Ross talked about what he looks for when he hires someone. I can no longer back that view. Ireland will be fired THIS year. No doubt in my mind. and yes, I know this matters to know one else, but I want it on record for me.
Do people really think it was all Ireland that wanted Marshall gone, and then the next year the whole leadership council? IMO Philbin had a lot to do with those moves, if not all of it.
agreed.. No way Ireland wanted to get rid of guys that he brought in..everyone understands that though I'm sure.
New GM candidates: .. NYG, Steelers & Bears 3 up and coming young executives who would report into a Football PResident instead of Mr Ross should be considered are: 1. Marc Ross of the NYG 2. Omar Khan of the Steelers 3. Kevin Turks of the Bears
May want to post that here: http://www.thephins.com/forums/showthread.php?79658-CK-s-Article-on-Potential-GM-Candidates
Earlier in the thread (among other places) people are blaming him for getting rid of Marshall, Bush, etc...
Check out a Phil Emery interview sometime. That's what I want. Openess. Honesty. You know, the stuff they love to talk about but don't actually back up. You don't have to go out there and state what your gameplan is, but don't make comments that do nothing but show you think the fanbase is foolish. Like Section said in the club level, Jimmy Johnson used to bring mexican food and beer to the media gatherings for the media. Dave Wannstedt used to buy pizza for the media. Don't schedule interviews and then not show up, which this organization has done. There are a lot of things they can do from a media standpoint to get out in front of stories instead of keeping everything tight and letting the media spin it because they can't get access.
Both. The team has had one winning record during his tenure as GM. He was directly involved in the Dez Bryant thing which gave the organization a black eye. He was directly involved in the Jim Harbaugh interview which gave the organization a black eye. He is likely the biggest reason Peyton Manning and Jeff Fisher aren't here. He also may be directly involved with this Jonathan Martin thing, as he has been a major point of interest in this investigation.
Totally agree! And on top of that, what's about all the players that came to Miami in their primes just to see them underperform here and revive their careers after they left Miami? And all the young guys that were declared busts in Miami and are starters now elsewhere? That not the GM. That's coaching!!!
If you are building for the future, you don't spend a massive amount of money in free agency the way Miami did.
Yep. Don't pee on my leg and tell me it is raining, and don't tell me you are building for the future and through the draft and then spend $60 million on a one trick pony wide receiver.
The next coach can do nothing but eat live puppies at a press conference and I wouldn't care if the team is elite.
i see, I'll tell you this, at this point and time, he's talking to the media like their children and wants nothing to do with them, his sarcasm meter is so detectable but it's like he doesn't care.. Now I know that has to do with the ignorance of our beat writers but he's lost some patience with them..all that being said, there have been great coaches and teams that talk to the media like that.. My question is do you think he has to be different, is it because you think the market would benefit more from it?
Sure, there have been great coaches that talk that way to the people around them, including the media, but I'd rather get away from the Belichick/Parcells way of communicating. I'm not sure what you mean by market would benefit more, but I think the Dolphins as an organization would really benefit by being more transparent with the media.
You aren't meaning be transparent with the media, you mean the fans. The media mean nothing to our win /loss record. They do not effect our play one little bit. At no time has a fully briefed beat writer padded up and knocked a lb over. The dolphins relationship with the media is irrelevant compared to their performance on the park. If the jets and giants said nothing, but won every week, their papers would not give a monkeys. Just win.
How would we benefit more?? What I meant when I said the market,I meant do you think it would benefit us in the way of ticket sales?
Public perception. Whether you like it or not, the media is who paints the picture for the public, and the perception the media paints is the perception the publics buys into. Will it contribute to wins and losses? No, and that's what they organization needs to realize as well. By being more open to communicating THROUGH the media, they are not going to divulge any secrets that will cost them games. But, by being more open, they can utilize the media to shape the opinion of the organization.
There's some truth to this because, although we're 5-6 and in every game, the team is portrayed as a 1-10 bottom feeder. Having said this I highly doubt any of this has an impact on Ross as I doubt he follows the likes of Omar on Twitter.
I 100 percent agree..a majority of this fanbase gets their negs from the local media and becomes intolerant,a lot of the times ignorantly, so yes I think it would help ticket sales if what your saying was to happen.
Here's a question.. I firmly believe that Philbin and his staff was directly responsible for advising the front office/Ireland to rid themselves of Vontae Davis, Sean smith..Brandon Marshall, Reggie bush..Karlos Dansby.. Can he make a case against Philbin if things go bad.?
Does anyone remember what Ross offered Manning? He offered him a minority ownership in the team when he retired! Who would turn that down? Someone who really didn't want to play here. Manning flat out said, the offer was generous but he would have to turn it down because it meant playing for Ross! I would think it was Ross/Ireland and the whole Harbaugh episode but I'm just speculating.
If the decision is ultimately his then so is the responsibility. It doesn't matter who did or didn't advise him to dump those players. This game of "can we find a way to absolve Jeff Ireland of responsibility because so and so told him to do that stuff" has been old for a while.
It's amazing that people deny that the bad reputation of the front office in Miami had nothing to do with Peyton not even considering them.
If you look at the players who were signed and their ages then it's pretty clear they were trying to get younger. All of the multi year deals went to 27 and under guys.
So, they are signing guys in their peak years to big money contracts. What part of "this is about the future" does that jive with?
Correction: They are signing average guys in their peak years to big money contracts. Throwing 36 million guaranteed dollars at Ellerbe, Wheeler and Misi is beyond mindboggling; it's downright embarassing.
The idea is to put a young nucleus together and allow them to grow together. The guys we gave multi year deals to will be in their prime for several years whereas guys like Dansby, Burnett, Bush, Fasano, Long etc are probably arrow down players.
Yet, each contract was structured so the team can get out from under them in three years. That's not playing for the future. That's making moves hoping you can win now to save your butt because you have such a horrible record in previous seasons.
I'm pretty skeptical of the idea you can have a lot of valuable information about a first-time GM candidate. You don't have virtually any evidence to go off of. You've got players that other decision makers have pulled the trigger on. It's even less information than first time head coaching prospects, which is a huge crapshoot
