After your post before this??? Didn't bother reading whatever this one was, have a fantastic Turkey Day.
Not even close. Calvin Johnson got $150.5 million over 8 years with $60 million guaranteed. Wallace's whole contract is $60 million over 5 years, $30 million guaranteed. Sent from my Galaxy S3 using Tapatalk
Terrible Example. Carlos Pena at the time was a developing player..Howe wanted to play him every day to move along his development. Beane wanted the better offensive player AT THAT TIME to play. Billy Beane was the one that was short sighted, and made the worst trade of his career by sending away Carlos Pena and his future 260 HR's and series of .850 OPS's.
If you really believe that..... Then The Miami Dolphins signed a top 5 production WR in his prime at a little less than market rate.
Only if you look at volume stats, which are near meaningless. However, you ignore the trend his stats took starting in the latter part of the 2011 season and through the 2012 season. It has already been pointed out in discussion that he really only has about a 16 game stretch from about the halfway point of the 2010 season through the halfway point of the 2011 season where he was actually very productive, and even then, when you look at situational stats, you see a very limited receiver.
That "16 game" argument is a waste of time. There was a stretch of 18-22 games in Larry Fitzgerald's career where he was in the mid 40's in production. So..you didn't want Larry Fitzgerald on your team 2 years ago when he was in the midst of this? As for Wallace, I used all the production metrics that matter for WR's. Yards per Target, Target / Comp. ratio / by Total Yards. and of course.....TD's. The Touchdown PASS catch in the NFL is one of those few instances where a single player shows his clear superiority on a single play. So it also matters.
It isn't a waste of time when his decline coincides with the move towards a more precision, timing based passing offense. Miami gave him a big contract with him coming off a -0.78 WPA season. He never even was Pittsburgh's best receiver. Hines Ward and Antonio Brown have both been better.
Our Offense has steadily declined in the advanced metrics I use since week 1. I tend to use 2 game blocks to judge progress, and each 2 game block gets worse. Our offense is nothing to take pride in. Scrap it for something more conventional that can take advantage of a guy you paid market for. Because if you do, you justify his money, and you also get the production to go with it. BTW, Not to get off of Wallace..but it seems that certain teams miss Bruce Arians desperately and the one that has him now is just....fine.
Which amazes me, because when Bruce was our OC at Mississippi State, he was considered to be nothing special. We had a powerful running game but no passing game to speak of. That could mostly be because we had Michael Davis and Kevin Bouie at tailback back then, two big 230+ lbs monsters, and we had Derrick Taite at QB. Back to Wallace, you don't tell your coach to change his scheme to fit one player. The lack of production with this offense right now has more to do with the fact there is a talent mismatch. This is why you don't spend big bucks on a receiver that doesn't fit your scheme. If we had Arians, then Wallace's contract might be a bit more palatable. Mike Wallace hasn't done squat as a wide receiver outside of Arians's offense though. The bottom line here though is that for this system, Mike Wallace was a horrific signing, and if this system is kept, Mike will be gone after the 3rd year of this contract if not the 2nd.
I likened the Mike Wallace signing to that of Tampa Bay signing Alvin Harper to be their #1 receiver. That's exactly how it is turning out.
The fact that Mike Wallace is still getting a significant amount of targets on plays that are not deep routes suggests if anything Tannehill has a deeply misplaced faith in Wallace.
Lol. Everyone knew Wallace had some weaknesses is in his game so it's pretty funny to see people doing a TD dance like they discovered a new planet. Bottom line is that we had a void of talent at WR and Ireland brought in the best WR available, key word = available. Wallace is on a 5 year contract so it'll be year 2 or 3 at least before we get a definitive idea of how things are going to work out.
This signing shows that Jeff has no plan and no vision for how a roster is supposed to be built or how to match the coach's system with talent.
You do if that one player makes your offense much better and the rest of the players can play at the same level. For example...you trade for Adrian Peterson...you better go get a fullback, and make sure your TE's can block. Then you tell the OC to build into every game plan at least 8 designed runs for him and at least 20 touches.
No, a lot of people acted like Mike Wallace that wasn't true. The idea that Mike Wallace could be more than a one-trick pony was very much not a popular one. The team wasn't devoid at talent at wide receiver, and there was a lot of other better paths they could have taken than signing Mike Wallace. They almost all would have been better decisions. We're borderline to the point where addition by subtraction would be an improvement with Wallace. If Gibson and Keller were healthy, then we'd have almost certainly been much better off without Wallace. Wallace basically has to stop being terrible or get cut after the 2014 season, there's no "nor 3" years going on here.
Like Peterson, Wallace has a skill set that if used correctly creates a huge impact for an offense. Again. Mike Wallace is blowing by elite cornerbacks, he is doing exactly what we knew he would do.
No, there's not a lot of situations that Mike Wallace is "like" Peterson. There's not even remotely close to similar quality players, and you can put Peterson into whatever run scheme you want and he'd be successful. What elite cornerback has Mike Wallace blown by?
Ok - I'm no big fan of Wallace but there is no comparison between these two players in terms of performance with their new teams. Harper was downright dreadful.
What I would like to see from Wallace in the off-season is an absolute commitment to develop as a route runner and get his timing down with Tannehill. If Tannehill can be a 90 rated passer when throwing to Wallace, he'll likely be a 90 rated passer across the board.
Why didn't he do that this season? Or hell, last season when he got a new offense in Pittsburgh. Wallace won't even warm up with Tannehill before games. Given Wallace's level of effort and investment, we're lucky he doesn't have big issues with understanding the playbook.
Mike Wallace has a combined 4 catches for 27 yards on Revis and Haden(on 11 targets), with an interception on passes thrown to him and no touchdowns. "Blown by" might not be the right description of what Wallace did. Unless if course you mean that Wallace "blew", and the "by" indicates he blew in the general area of those corner-backs, then yes. But he's blown any matter of objects, including goats adjacent to a lot of defensive backs this year. Wait, this is one of these theoretical "I SAW IT TANNEHILLL JUST DIDN'T THROW HIM THE BALL!" type situations that no one in practice will be able to find on NFL Rewind, isn't it?
Yeah what caught me off guard was when he finished his answer about working with Tannehill with..."and that's enough." No it's not enough until you guys click and are on the same page.
Obviously he has an agenda, maybe he lost his high school sweetheart to the split end on the football team. Just plain doesn't "get it"
There's no agenda. The wide receiver position is the most overvalued position in sports. They are completely interchangeable with the exception of a very few, and the actual impact that those few make is not enough to warrant what they get relative to money. This is simply not a valuable position that is a key to winning games, yet teams constantly make the mistake of overpaying and overdrafting this position.
Dez Bryant..Calvin Johnson..Larry Fitzgerald...Andre Johnson..Brandon Marshall.. Hmmm, you have point here, none of those teams have done squat.
Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, Randy Moss (they were on the cusp of the greatest season ever before Tryee happened). Even Santonio Holmes and Plaxico (elite talent, but basket cases) Elite WRs don't make QBs elite. The QB is still the most important position on the field. Elite WRs make Great QBs even greater. It's symboitic. They sort of help each other. But AJ Green isn't going to make Dalton elite. Give Brady, Rodgers or Manning AJ Green then watch out. WR before QB is indeed putting the cart before the horse.
