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Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jim1, Dec 2, 2013.

  1. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Sherman joked that there must be a “rule” the offense can’t top a certain amount of points. (The Dolphins are the only team that hasn’t scored at least 28 in a game.)

    “We still hit that ceiling,” Sherman said. “What’s wrong with scoring 30-35 points? Gosh dang, we had so many opportunities and left points on the field.”

    Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...ues-fins-playoff-scenarios.html#storylink=cpy
     
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  2. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    Not relevant atm, but interesting none the less.

    On another note, Sherman drives me nuts, but I do enjoy reading him and listening to him.
     
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  3. Den54

    Den54 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    AMERICA!
    Everyone had a heck of a game or having a heck of a year.
    Yada yada yada.
     
  4. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Agreed... but not a Clay fan at all myself. I read that as Sherman bemoaning the loss of Keller as Clay is inconsistent and does frustrating things in his routes and very rarely catches a ball in traffic. He also seems to pause when making catches to watch the ball into his hands, then resume trying to run. He just isn't as fluid or natural a receiver as Keller. Sherman saying "I never thought Clay was anything but a starter since Day 1" is open to interpretation as he clearly wasn't the starting TE until Keller was lost.
     
  5. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Clay is good for the team.
     
  6. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    ATM, looks like Wallace and Bline both will top 1k yds, it's been a long time since that has happened in Miami (Wallace has 784 or so, Bline is around 803)

    Clay is down around 580 yds, not likely he'll crack 1k in 4 gms
     
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  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Come on Coyle, you know this steeler team, you know what to do against Ben..you have the athletes..get...it...done..
     
  8. phinswolverinesrockets

    phinswolverinesrockets If he dies, he dies

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    sherman is a joke. that is all.
     
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  9. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    And this time, they really do not have their strong running game

    I want so payback for the 09 Stealers/Staratore call!
     
  10. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty much with you. He makes some nice plays and some big plays. He's definitely had some highlight reel plays this year. On the other hand, he isn't a very good blocker, drops a lot of catchable balls and often times doesn't run good routes. I'm hoping he can continue to improve and clean some of those things up.

    I really think Keller would have been a difference maker for our red zone offense.
     
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  11. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    Are we talking about the same Charles Clay? The one who's caught 53 passes (good for #6 in the league), has 581 receiving yards (good for #9 in the league) and only dropped 3 passes all season, a better target/dopped passes percentage than Calvin Johnson, Steve Smith, Brandon Marshall or Wes Welker?

    The guy's maybe the best NFL player no one talks about, and we're pretending he needs to step it up. Fans.
     
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  12. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Fans? This is what fans do. They discuss players... No one said Clay wasn't having a good season. He is, but Keller would have have been more dynamic, ran better routes, and a better RZ target. As nice a season as Clay is having, he has done nothing to make us miss Keller, though he is better than Fasano, but in fairness Fasano was used mostly to help shore up the spotty RT position.
     
  13. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    According to PFF, he's tied for 2nd at TE with 6 drop.
     
  14. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    I think "Drops" is one area PFF has gotten quite wrong, what they think are "catchable" balls would have Fred Biletnikoff dislocating shoulders trying to catch

    Especially on crossing routes with the ball thrown behind the receiver
     
  15. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    But they are consistent with their grades and expect guys to make difficult catches. That's what separates average receivers from great ones.

    Clay is the 6th ranked TE in yards. He is around 12th in TDs and catches... and #14 in 1st downs among TEs as per NFL.com : http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst...archive=false&conference=null&qualified=false
     
  16. texanphinatic

    texanphinatic Senior Member

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    Clay has been quite solid and a nice surprise, but we can still probably afford to be more dynamic in that spot. Gotta look for those mismatch guys like Gronk/Graham/Davis imo. Definitely a place for Clay on the team though.
     
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  17. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    I like Clay. Keller's '13-'14 season is history but I found Sherman's comments about the two of them worth mentioning. He is praising Clay but also Keller after the fact. Makes me wonder what his plans were for the offense throughout the season with the two of them and what that might have meant for the other guys on the team.

    Egnew might have never seen the field. Instead, he gets a chance and has made the most of it.
     
  18. padre31

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    Thing is, unless one has played Wr calling a throw behind on a crossing route a drop is based on subjective, not objective, judgment.

    The catch radius in that situation is just tiny, at least a third as large as a regular catch radius b/c momentum and the pads are making it far more then just "difficult"
     
  19. NyPhinfan

    NyPhinfan Season Ticket Holder

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    Can't have anything to do with Shermans play calling in the redone? Or lack of a belief in a fullback or a short yardage back? How about fades to the corner of the end zone on the half yard line?
     
  20. Stitches

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    Going back to preseason I am pretty sure we opened games with both Clay and Keller on the field, and they regularly played together.
     
  21. cuchulainn

    cuchulainn Táin Bó Cúailnge Club Member

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    Yes, I am sure they were on the field at the same time. I still think that as good a season as Clay has had, Keller would have had a better one and provided a better target in 1st down and RZ situations. Keller is, or was, easily the better receiver. The good thing is that Clay has improved over the previous seasons and is having a career season.
     
  22. 77FinFan

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    Considering what I consider to be the devastating loss of Keller Clay has been a pleasant surprise.
     
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    GMJohnson New Member

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    Not bad for a 6th round pick, eh?
     
  24. maynard

    maynard Who, whom?

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    Yeah. I think this is basically what Sherm was saying.


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  25. RickyBobby

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    Imthink Charles clay can be the best FB ever. Better than Larry Centers.

    A FB that can line up anywhere on the field. Get a real TE nextbyear andbreally open it up.
     

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