It mixed the old and the new (current ones and like the early 00's ones) I like the current one better. But meh...
Ford's too busy now kissing *** trying to lure the European market in, so they redesigned the car to pacify them. Not saying it's a bad looking car, it's just not a Mustang. The American musclecar look is gone from it now. It's trying to be a sports car, which it isn't.
Looks like an Accord Coupe made sweet lovin' to an Aston Martin. Don't really mind the look, but I'd agree, it doesn't have the look of a traditional American muscle car. Any shots of the, hrm, rear?
They have had some flops along the way. Pagens pic kinda looks like a Camaro bred with it in the back half to me.
Haven't you figured out by now that if you say you like something I don't, it immediately fortifies my position? :P
And vice versa. Besides, we've been down this path before, you hate any and all change. And as far as staying true to the muscle car aesthetic, (not performance, but looks) the Camaro & Challenger have been eating the Mustang's lunch since they were reintroduced. If you argue that, then I know for a fact you're entirely biased.
I have always preferred the look of the Camaro from the 60's to now. The only Mustang I like for looks is the current generation. This latest one isn't too bad imo
Okay now we part ways. Camaro? REALLY? The "brick with wheels"? C'mon man. First of all, when it comes to cars you know nothing about me. I've owned many different brands of musclecars. Pontiac, MOPAR, Ford AND Chevy, so I'm not biased at all. I've had Trans Ams, Formulas, Camaros and Barracudas. In fact, if Dodge does a good job when they reintroduce the Cuda next year, one may end up in my garage. So your statement of bias is invalid. As for change, that has to be the stupidest statement you've ever made about me. I don't hate change. I hate change for the SAKE of change. If you're going to change something, IMPROVE it. If I hated change with the cars, I'd have stuck to a SN95 Mustang and said I hated the S197's, one of which I own. I preordered that car and waited 8 months for it, so obviously I liked the change. I loved the changes that were made in 2010 and all the other changes up to now. This version is ****. Correction, not ****. Just not a Mustang. Sorry. A ponycar shouldn't be drawing comparisons to Accords and Aston Martins. Obviously you are NOT a musclecar fan, because to say the new Camaro looks more like a musclecar than the Mustang is beyond laughable. The Challenger looks great from a distance, but once you get up close you see it's a boat. Doesn't feel like a musclecar at all. It looks nice, but park one next to a Mustang and a Camaro and it looks like a barge. The Camaro looks like exactly what it was first used for, a Transformer. The new Z28s that are coming out are a bit better, but sorry, nothing like they used to be. In fact, they haven't been what they used to be since the late 60's. Camaro was one of the first ponycars to go the "sports car look" road. They abandoned the traditional look to become the long, low, sleek vehicle loved by overly hairy Guidos the world over.
I bought my 2013 GT 'vert before the new one came out because I wanted a Mustang, not a Eurocar with independent rear suspension. After 50 years, they finally had gotten the classic formula right; now they begin anew with a new set of problems to solve. I will not be trading mine in.
I like this current (past?) design. The one Pagan posted as the new design is all right but not as good IMO. If I can equate it to the most recent Die Hard movie, as a movie on it's own merits I enjoy it but it doesn't seem right as a Die Hard movie.
Dude, if you can't see how this is the visual spiritual successor: to this: Then you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to looks.
I'd buy a Charger for practicality (well, moreso than a Challenger), but that's why I love Dodge now. Ford and GM threw "floaty-boaty" big cars out the window and are trying to sell us re-badged euro-eco trash. This is North America, we have the luxury of big open roads and we are going small? I've seen families spill out of Coopers and a Prius take 4 big guys to a bar-grill (with great difficulty). Gas prices my ***. Dignity has a cost too.
Haha. Consider me your opposite. I just bought couple-year-old Prius. My 70 mile roundtrip commute was costing too much in my POS Jeep Liberty that was breaking everywhere and getting about 16-17 mpg. Im getting nearly 60 miles per gallon in my first month in my sissy Prius and couldn't be happier.
Prius? Allow me to welcome you as you're now on your way to being becoming a liberal like me. You'll be getting your Mac right after your yoga class after which you'll be going vegan. Please leave your guns, tobacco products, Bible and Chuck Norris movie library in the recycle bins. Here's some soy nog while you decide which college you wish to attend. Have a wonderful non gender specific day!
Really? Front end = completely different. Quarter panels = completely different. The hood length on the new Camaro is much shorter. The Challenger is better. And, ahem. Be real here. Almost every body line is a dead match.
Hope you're being sarcastic. "Floaty-Boaty" and musclecars don't belong in the same sentence. You want floaty, go buy a old Caddy.
Muscle cars and full-size sedans are both equally out of auto trends these days. Just a suspension adjustment that makes something "floaty" or not. Actually most muscle cars in the 70s and 80s shared almost the same body and frame as their sedan variants.
Have you ever realized how bad you've been ripped off gas wise by buying a Prius? I posted this somewhere else. Car manufacturers have duped EVERYONE with the hybrid nonsense.
I beg to differ. All three remaining major US car manufacturers are offering musclecars. In fact, the horsepower wars show no sign of letting up. Your original statement about Ford and Chevy going smaller might be true, but has nothing to do with what this thread is about. As for the frame sharing, not the 70's my friend. When musclecars originally came out in the 60's they did. In the 70's cars such as the Cuda shed it's Valiant base and became it's own model. And besides, frame sharing or not, I stand by what I said. Musclecars and "floaty boaty" don't belong in the same sentence. Especially this generation's musclecars.
Not what I was claiming at all. I was referring to the design decisions mades at Dodge; their cars no noticeably bigger and roomier and their aesthetic is very reminiscent of the dying trend in American automobiles with the V8 and the ability to seat 5 adults comfortably.. No where did I claim Ford or GM gave up on muscle cars or performance competition. No? The Grand Prix, Century, El Camino and Bonneville shared their platform with the likes of Monte Carlo, Cutlass, and Grand Am and GNX throughout the 70s and 80s. That is just the top of my head and a GM example alone. Don't want to be a douche but...what sentence? I just mentioned "big cars". Sedans and muscle cars all fall into that category. I am taking about those long Trans Ams and big *** Buicks at teh same time.
I'm wondering if it's built on the same chassis as this and is sort of bridging the gap of Euro and American?
If it is, it's going to fail. Europeans will buy a Mustang because they want an American muscle car, if it's based on a Jag or Aston they'll just buy the Jag or Aston. And similarly, I'm guessing that if Americans want a Jag-style GT then they'll buy the Jag-style GT rather than a Mustang. I like Astons, Jaguars and American muscle cars...but I wouldn't buy a hybrid of them. They are what they are and should be celebrated as such. Vive le difference as the French say (and they know nothing about sports cars!)
Liked the Cougars, and the stripped down LX 5.0's b/c they were not meant to be beautiful, they were meant to go fast. Cougars to me...damn...as for the new 'stangs.... What souless beasts are being cranked out now
This I agree with, knew a guy whose business was exporting American Muscle Cars to Norway, especially Mustangs. If they hope to capture mkt share in Europe, they are sooo offbase, Euros want loud/steel/in your face when they buy American Muscle..think of them as sort of 4 wheeled Harley's Had a great discussion with some French dudes about driving on the autobahn..fun stuff
