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Careful: New England still dangerous even without Gronk

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Neuron, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. joenhre

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    If the Dolphins had played a complete game your team would have been blown out of their own stadium. The Dolphins played like crap in the second half and the Patriots were aided by some terrible calls by the refs.
     
  2. dWreck

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    So much garbage to sift through. TLDR. Why do you keep bringing up other irrelevant games? I don't care about any other teams we played against. I don't care about any other teams YOU played against. I'm going with facts. I don't care if you beat another team 100-0 and broke 15 NFL records.

    Fact: You had Gronk in game 1 and still sported a 60 QBR with 100 yards passing and were aided by the refs with anomaly BS calls that hosed the phins. But Fine, You got the Win because you "dominated" oh so hard with your godmode team.

    Sad part is, if those calls didn't happen i'd be sitting here saying we are probably screwed and you guys stomped us last time, but unfortunately you didn't. and the calls happened. All of us are aware that bs calls happen every week. but THOSE calls don't, however.

    Every game and team and day is different. But these are facts we have to go off of that actually matter. That and you wont be in NE this time around.
     
  3. joenhre

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    So your team is 3-3 on the road. Nothing to brag about. Not one of those 3 wins vs a team with a winning record. They have two tough road games ahead against two teams fighting for the playoffs. I wouldn't get too cocky if I was you.
     
  4. BrownianMotion

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    You keep bringing up the passing stats. If our D has a similar performance as it did in that game: 6 sacks, 2 INT, 1 FF, and allowed only 3.8 yards per offensive play. Do you think you have much of a chance to win?
     
  5. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Nah bro. Pats are best ever.

    I mean.... no superbowls since we got caught cheating

    but you know.... best ever. unbeatable.
     
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  6. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    Good luck to you. :lol:
     
  7. BrownianMotion

    BrownianMotion Banned

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    Filming Chargers cheerleaders on the sidelines is why we won SBs?
     
  8. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    We are going to win, there isn't a question or doubt in my mind.

    Your D is facing a COMPLETELY different O-line, different players and alignments playing night and day better than it was. Like comparing High school to college. I wouldn't expect half of that performance.

    But hey, who cares about facts right?

    So again, for the 19th time, PLEASE come back here on Sunday after the game.
     
  9. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    Oh yeah because thats what you did.

    Only a pats fan......amazing.
     
  10. BrownianMotion

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    What a silly thing to say.

    You've spent the last couple of pages saying that the ONLY thing we should base our predictions off of is the last game between the two teams. Now you are making the claim that it will be like night and day.

    Interestingly, our offense is also vastly improved from the last time we met. We no longer have Gronk, but we do have Vereen who was absent in our previous meeting. He will be a matchup nightmare. Dobson has greatly improved since then. We'll see if he can go. Edelman is also playing a lot better. And Brady has been the best QB in the league over the past 5 games. But apparently the Dolphins are the only team in the league that have improved since week 8.

    You don't care about facts. You only care about stats that are taken out of context.
     
  11. dWreck

    dWreck formerly dcaf

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    You've spent EVERY post basing your prediction on games that have nothing to do with the dolphins.

    Every fact I use either has to do with the phins, the pats, and/or the only game they actually played against eachother.

    Out of context? I'm starting to question your literacy.
     
  12. BrownianMotion

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    Nonsense. Every fact I use either has to do with the Dolphins, the Pats, and/or the only game they actually played against eachother. Just as your Oline has supposedly improved, so has our passing game. That is a fact.
     
  13. 54Fins

    54Fins "In Gase we trust"

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    over there
    That is fact...

    But tell me how your passing attack is improved when the stats show (fact) that without Gronk your 22nd in the league in that catagory?

    Is your alias Neuron ?
     
  14. BrownianMotion

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    The improvement had a lot to do with Gronk but not exclusively. Vereen is an explosive & dynamic weapon. He wasnt active in our last meeting. Dobson has greatly improved and Edelman has been having Welker type performances in recent weeks.
     
  15. Destroyer

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  16. dWreck

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    Alright, here we go. You started talking about irrelevant games from the get go. The only time I ever mentioned irrelevant games was for ridiculous retort, in which I SAID was the reason i was pointing it out.

    According to you, you've only talked about the pats vs dolphins and have not used any irrelevant statistics from other games that don't matter on Sunday. So, lets review shall we?

    And that was just quickly skimming through.
    But still, the one that takes the cake was :

    First off - it was TWO horrid penalties. Second- ....Rofl.. That wasn't a blown call? You're gonna sit there and say a player dove toward a fumble that he was going to RECOVER and batted it away from.... himself? ......on purpose? Good call? Is the median age of a pats fan like 9 years old? or is that just the reading comprehension level?

    But wait. There's more.
    and then go on to say
    ****ing amazing. Is inbreeding popular in that thar neck of the woods?
     
  17. BrownianMotion

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    You're unintelligent. Liberal arts major I assume?

    By stating that your oline is greatly improved since the last time we played you, you are implicitly referring to games other than our last meeting. You can talk about new players, different alignments, etc, but the claim that your oline is better is a statement about its production. Hence, it is based on games since the last Pats/Dolphins game. When I brought up our improved offense, I did the exact same thing. Btw, speaking of new personnel - Vereen did not play last time. He will be a matchup nightmare.

    Dolphins have been our punching bag in the AFCE for over a decade. This will not change. If by some miracle you make the playoffs, you will be humiliated. I actually hope you do. Would rather have our punching bag in there as opposed to the Ravens.
     
  18. dWreck

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    Says the one who clearly can't read. You literally just dodged half a page of facts that prove you are borderline ******ed with your contradictions.

    You brought up A LOT more irrelevant facts than just you saying you have an 'improved offense since last game'. But hey, I guess direct quotes are wrong too.

    Art Major?
     
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  19. Neuron

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    Look, I'm going to keep the debates football. First of all, lets have fun with this, as well all love to talk about football. Now, yes Gronk is great, but Tom is greater, and the last time I checked, Tom Brady is the quarterback and the best meaning he MAKES people around him better and MAKES his weapons. He has been doing that for the last decade now and will continue to do that. And if I'm not mistaken Shane Vereen did not play last time, which completely changes everything as he is a game wrecker. Just ask D'Qwell Jackson and T.J Ward, as they were toyed with the entire game. They even doubled him sometimes and he still beat them. He allows Julian, Danny and Austin who are all completely healthy now to be singled and you know what those three can do against single coverage, ESPECIALLY in the slot. All three are pretty explosive as EPSN mentioned and can and will move the chains. What it will come down to is Miami keeping Tom Brady on the sidelines, as that is the only chance they have to win. And don't compare last game against Miami because there wasn't a healthy Vereen, and there also wasn't a healthy Amendola or Austin Collie. Just talking football, not trash.
     
  20. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    Given that Bellichick's team has historically struggled against Miami(especially in Miami), yes yes you should.
     
  21. MikeHoncho

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    Brady made Deion Branch a Superbowl MVP (not to mention a lot of money), and made playoff runs with guys like Jabar Gaffney, and Troy Brown.

    Speaking of Superbowls, they'd won 3 Superbowls without even the threat of a monster TE.

    As long as they stilll have Zebras, cheating coaches who study signals at half-time, and a HOF QB, they're dangerous.
     
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  22. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    You know what. I don't want to talk about how awsome Brady is. I don't want to talk about..how we should never take the Patriots lightly. I'm sick of being worried if the Phins can beat the Pats. **** the Patriots. **** Tom Brady. **** Bill Belichick. Its our turn now...its time you get used to the Phins kickin the crap out of you. Ill buy you a beer when its Sawx season..but right now..**** you to. This Sunday...NE is getting train wrecked in the ***..

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
     
  23. MikeHoncho

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    December games vs. the Pats.

    The only fond memory of scumbag Saban I have was that game when he got a hold of their calls then had Jason Taylor call out their protection calls and audibles. JT *** raped Brady from the monster set.

    Not to mention, Channing Crowder's only career interception a few years later.
     
  24. bigbry

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    LMAO @ "NE is getting train wrecked in the ***.."
     
  25. RGF

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    Are you guaranteeing a Patriots win this Sunday ?
     
  26. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Oh we are bringing out all of the ghosts of Xmas past...we owned those *****es in the 70s 80s and most of the 90s

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  27. dWreck

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    They did. multiple times.
     
  28. M1NDCRlME

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    that's ****in hilarious...Josh McCown has been the best QB in the league over the past 5 games
    McCown's QBR:
    123.4, 92.9, 102.4, 114.9 and 141.9. That's an average of 115.1

    Douche McBrady's QBR:
    151.8, 91.3, 107.4, 104.8 and 91.7. That's an average of 109.4

    nice try though...
     
  29. ExplosionsInDaSky

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    I hope Brady gets a pringle can stuffed up his *** Sunday. Tired of the talking, Dolphins aren't going to lay down on Sunday. Expect a hard fought game from us. I honestly think we can beat them. As far as getting murked in the postseason...We have to there first. Starts by beating the snot out of that brat Brady and the *****riats.
     
  30. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    You just know these two wont be back if we somehow win on Sunday.
    I am curious as to who they rooted for before the year 2001.
     
  31. Kud_II

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    Tannehill will outplay Brady Sunday. You heard it here first.
     
  32. Neuron

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    No YOU nice try, you must think I'm stupid don't you? You and I both know you never use stats on great players that have proven to be great over a long period of time and still win despite their stars from a previous year, being taken away. So if McCown has a better 5 games then say, Peyton Manning does that make McCown a better player? Hell no, so don't try that numbers crap. He lost Wes Welker, Aaron Hernandez, Danny Woodhead, Brandon Lloyd and still managed to win what, 4 out of his last five games. And even in the beginning of the season, without Gronkowski, Danny Amendola or Shane Vereen he went 7-1 so get off the stage and try again M1NDCRIME.
     
  33. dWreck

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    wtf. no one said anything about greatest ever or over a long period of time.....YOU or WHOEVER said best QB over the past 5 games. 5 games. 5 games. 5 games. 5 games. 5 games.

    That was proven wrong, we are only correcting another one of your hundreds of errors.
     
  34. Neuron

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    This is probably the dumbest thing I heard this year. Yeah, I heard Tannehill will outplay Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning too, while we are at it. Because all of a sudden, Tannehill is a future 1st Ballot HOFer and elite quarterback like Brady is... smh my god damn head.
     
  35. BrownianMotion

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    I love how beating a few scrub teams (with the exception of Cincinnati) is what gives you this unshakeable confidence. I guess that's what comes with being a fan of a loser for such a long time. You will let any kind of success get to your head regardless how minimal.

    We will put an end to your season on Sunday. You guys aren't even a road block on our way to a playoff run. More like a nuisance we just have to show up to beat. The game is nothing but a formality.
     
  36. Neuron

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    I didn't say that, I was defending somebody else. But what I won't except are bullsh*t stats from a quarterback filling in for somebody who has Alshon Jeffery and Brandon Marshall to throw to in a perfect sytem fit just for his strengths.
     
  37. Frumundah Finnatic

    Frumundah Finnatic U Mad Miami?

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    The Pats have been losers for the vast majority of their existence.
     
  38. RGF

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    No one. They weren't born before 2001.
     
  39. Neuron

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    So I guess Denver and New Orleans are scrub teams?
     
  40. Frumundah Finnatic

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    Of course they weren't.
     

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