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Sports Buzz: Dolphins' playoff scenarios after Chargers' upset of Denver

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by jim1, Dec 13, 2013.

  1. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    If the Dolphins and Baltimore both go 2-1 down the stretch and San Diego 2-0, then Miami would win a three-team tiebreaker only if one of Baltimore’s losses is against New England or Cincinnati. That’s because the Dolphins would finish with a superior conference record in that scenario.

    If Baltimore wins both its AFC games in that scenario but loses to Detroit, Baltimore would win the three-team tiebreaker for this reason: The Dolphins and Ravens would finish with the same conference record, which would be better than San Diego’s under any circumstances. The Chargers then would be eliminated from the tiebreaker and Baltimore would earn the playoff berth based on its win against Miami.

    ### If the Dolphins and Baltimore go 1-2 down the strength and San Diego 1-1, then the Ravens’ losses would need to come against the Patriots and Bengals for Miami to win the three-team tiebreaker. Miami would finish with the best conference record in that scenario.


    Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...r-chargers-upset-of-denver.html#storylink=cpy
     
  2. SargeZ33

    SargeZ33 Semperfi!

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    WOW. I guess the Bolts winning last night helped us?
     
  3. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Definitely. Though if we just win out I'd say there is a 95% chance we make it. If Baltimore manages to actually win out they deserve it with that schedule.
     
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  4. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    So SD needs a complete collapse to get in. Baltimore has to beat New England. Ok. I can live with this.
     
  5. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Pats control their own destiny now for home field.
     
  6. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    If Miami is going to make this happen then it's got to come from the stars of this team, Cameron Wake, Randy Starks, Paul Soliai and Jared Odrick. They're the December trump cards.
     
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  7. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    One game at a time. Can't worry about what anyone else does or look ahead.
     
  8. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Again not entirely true. Baltimore could win their division going 2-1 though its not entirely likely.

    If Pitt beats Cinci and we beat NE we entirely control out destiny.I
     
  9. finsincebirth

    finsincebirth Well-Known Member

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    Not in the case of a three way tie. Hence the OP.

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  10. Disciple

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    I spoke too soon because in the scenario listed there was a 3-way tie with SD. The head to head would no longer apply as we lost to Bal, but beat SD.
     
  11. Finrunner

    Finrunner Season Ticket Holder

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    For me, the way I look at it -- at this point, because this is the point we're at -- it's got to be based on the Dolphins winning rather than losing and then finding the right combination of methods of who I need to be cheering for to win or lose. So right now, I'm cheering for the Dolphins to win and the Raves to lose, either this week, the next week, or the last week (any and all weeks). Right now, nothing else matters... unless there are optimists out there who believe we can somehow win the division by winning out and the Pats losing out. Good luck to those guys, but my reality won't let me go that far.

    If the Ravens lose on Monday, that gives the Dolphins a chance to move up ahead of them (well, we'll have already played, but I hope we get that game in hand on them). So those are the only two games that matter to me. Dolphins first. Then. I'll worry about Monday.

    If we lose to the Patriots, obviously, everything will shift and I'll start trying to figure out the myriad of teams the Dolphins need to win and to lose, and I'll root for those team accordingly. I really, Really, REALLY just don't want it to have to come to that. It only does if we lose this weekend. SO DON'T!!!
     
  12. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    A Bengal loss is as good as a Raven loss. We control out own destiny that way too. Do don't forget to cheer for that.
     
  13. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    That Olivier Vernon guy is pretty good too.
     
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  14. Trackstar

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    Just win out and it'll all take care of itself.
     
  15. CaribPhin

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    We just have to win out. If we win out and still don't make it, then based on the stipulations of the other scenarios, there was no other way in.
     
  16. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    I think what he's saying is that we need the guys we knew were good coming in to play up to expectations. Vernon has come into his own but he isn't an established commodity.

    We've done well with guys like Nolan Carroll, Olivier Vernon, and Chris Clemons doing the playmaking. The idea is imagine if the known playmakers started making the plays we're accustomed to.

    I really don't think it's the slight at Vernon that I suspect you want it to be.
     
  17. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I don't think he thought it was a slight, I think he was just adding a name.
     
  18. jpep13

    jpep13 Coach Of The Year Club Member

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    Hopefully, But I don't think we are that good to win out,
     
  19. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Well if we beat NE we certainly are good enough to beat Buffalo and New York if we come into the games focused.
     
  20. dWreck

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    We stomped the jets. Threw a game against the bills and lost to the pats who were aided by the refs in conjunction with us not showing up to the second half. I dont think we have to be "good" to win out in the first place. Just need to play a full 60 minutes.
     
  21. Califin

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    After all the gutwrenching elation of winning out? Such an outcome would rank just above a worst case Jest tainted scenario.
     
  22. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Worst scenario IMO is Baltimore going 1-2 and still getting in because we couldn't take care of business IMO.
     
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  23. dWreck

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    That would be bad. So would winning out and not getting in. Its sad im so much more afraid of Baltimore than new England in any sense or situation.
     
  24. djphinfan

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    Man it seems Odrick hasn't had to many impactful plays in a month..he's on pace to have his best season in tackle and sacks by a small margin, but I'd like to see more.
     
  25. Califin

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    So this circumvents any Ravens effect?
     
  26. ckparrothead

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    Man that's tough for me to agree with because it has seemed to me like he's been all over the place in the last month, especially against the Chargers, Panthers and Jets. I think his footing wasn't so hot against the Steelers and he didn't have as good a game.
     
  27. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    well that's good to hear, I haven't isolated him so I'll trust your eye...man has there been a lot of folks talking about him being good..
     
  28. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Yes.

    It would put them within one game of eachother. So if Baltimore wins their next two, Cinci can't gain ground. If Baltimore loses we pass them. But assume Baltimore wins those two.

    Week 17 is Bengals vs Ravens. If they are within one game, the winner takes the division. So you have two scenarios.

    Ravens win week 17. Bengals tie with us..we hold the tiebreaker.

    Bengals win week 17. Ravens lose a game on us.

    Of coursr it means squat if we lose.
     
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  29. ckparrothead

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    If Miami can beat New England then I don't think we need to worry that much about tiebreakers. At that point just play your game and get ready for the first Miami playoff experience since 2008.
     
  30. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    This is the game that D. Jordan was drafted for......bar none....pressure Brady!


    posted this in the 6th seed thread but for anyone else here ya go:

    Its pretty simple, San Diego is now 7-7 which makes the possibility of a three-way tie between Miami, Baltimore and the Chargers a bit more likely. And if there was a three-way tie between those teams at end of the regular season (all at 9-7); it would be the Dolphins who would advance to the postseason – assuming the Ravens lose at least one of their two remaining AFC games (vs. NE or at CIN) - otherwise if BAL only loss is to DET, then they advance to the post season.

    Miami’s best bet, of course, would be to sweep the final three AFC games of their season (and go 10-6). If they do, the only help they would need would be one loss by the Ravens (any loss) of their 3 games for them to finish 9-7.

    Lastly, if MIA and BAL finish 10-6, then we need to root for CIN to lose either this week or next; then BAL wins the North, and we claim WC #6 based on our H2H win vs. CIN.
     
  31. ckparrothead

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    Dion Jordan will likely get a few more snaps than he did against NE the first game but not many. Good to remember he did play 18 total snaps in that game. He rushed the passer 6 times and didn't get any pressure FWIW, had a negative pass rush grade via PFF. If Nate Solder is playing I'm not sure how much run Jordan will get against him.

    I go back to what I said before. Cameron Wake going up against Will Svitek at right tackle...that's huge. Winning this game is going to be about the true STARS of the team showing up and Cameron Wake is front and center of that. This won't be about new toys or new gimmicks. This is Jason Taylor v. Tom Brady.
     
  32. Section126

    Section126 We are better than you. Luxury Box

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    Dolphins chances before Last night at winning the #6 seed...56.9%

    After? 58.0%
     
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