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Breaks or luck...

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by dullfandan, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. dullfandan

    dullfandan Active Member

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    Not really a question.. But all of the sudden the ball is bouncing our way.. The Pitt ob play, the amodola drop, the refs keeping the laundry in their pocket... This could be special or are we jes getting lucky.. Champs play great ball and get lucky... Right?
     
  2. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Every team in the playoff hunt including the division leaders had all had their share of bad and good luck... Patriots have been in the receiving end of most of the good luck this season.
     
  3. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    What was lucky about the Steelers play? Clemons ran him out of bounds. He didnt fall over on his own or something.

    Amendola didn't drop the ball either, Thomas made a great play.

    Maybe lucky that the refs didn't screw us, I'll give you that.
     
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  4. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Good post! There clearly was luck. Brown did not have to run out of bounds. He could have gotten by him without that. The Dolphins were burned.

    There's no doubt there's luck involved. Just as the Patriots needed a ton of luck to just get to the SB in 2001 (while seeming to beat teams that were more talented by close margins. Just making a few key plays here and there).

    I like it. The Dolphins have been snake bit for so long. At least we finally get a week of real enjoyment. Hopefully, it will keep going. Sometimes teams get a few good breaks and they get on a roll.
     
  5. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Amendolas didn't drop that. Michael Thomas broke that **** up! Luck is what happens when skill meets opportunity!
     
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  6. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    We've had so many ups and downs this season. But the last 2 games?

    The Amendola drop wasn't a drop it was a defensed pass.

    The Antonio Brown step out was mostly luck, but before that not only was the Steelers offense not set to snap the ball (should be penalty) but Roethlisberger's "lateral" looked like a forward pass (another penalty)
     
  7. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Luck is a product of design.
     
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  8. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    Chance favors the prepared. ~ Louis Pasteur
     
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  9. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    I'll never understand how Pitts failure to score on a 70 yard 5 lateral pass play as time expired equals good luck for the Dolphins. People talk like we won bc they missed an extra point of fumbled on a kneel down.
     
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  10. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Not a fan of Pasteur. He invented Pasteurization. I don't like cooked milk. I drink raw milk. Good quote though.
     
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  11. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    You don't think Clemons influenced him to get closer to the sideline than he otherwise would have had to be? If not for Clemons he had all the room in the world to angle away from the sideline and probably would have.
     
  12. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    It was luck because the Dolphins defended horribly and by the time Brown was racing down the sideline, he had the game in his hands because of a complete "fail" on the part of the Dolphins D. They got lucky they were not the laughing stock of the NFL for that week.

    There's no doubt hard work, dedication is essential to winning. But, the whole, "luck is a product of preparation" stuff is pure BS. You can prepare all you want in life and get killed by a drunk driver; or have a plan go down. "The race is not to the swift nor the battle to the warriors, and neither is bread to the wise nor wealth to the discerning nor favor to men of ability; for time and chance overtake them all."

    There was nothing in skill or planning that Michael Jordan was born in NC in the 1960's rather than the 1760's or even 1860's. And there was nothing in terms of preparation and effort about the "tuck" rule being enforced when Brady fumbled the football in 2001 - which would have ended the season for the Patriots. In many other years that would have been a fumble. And a whole lot of "catches" in the 70's and 80's would not have been after instant replay.

    It is about time Miami got some good karma.
     
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  13. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    The real problem is actually drinking some other creature's body fluid meant for their own offspring.

    Heated or not, its bizarre and studies show most human bodies disagree with dairy.
     
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  14. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Louis Pasteur actually did his experiments on beer and not milk like taught in schools. Beer was actually the first thing ever pasteurized. One of the many reasons why, after fire, beer is man's greatest discovery.
     
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  15. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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    Steelers with an illegal forward pass and then Brown forced to step out of bounds by Clemons?

    It wasn't a drop, it was a great play by Thomas.

    Laudry in their pocket? you are talking about the Edelman TD play right? where Wake was held blatantly.
     
  16. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    [video=youtube;cRInQyUV16k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRInQyUV16k[/video]
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  17. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    No, its not luck. It's the laws of physics operating at a level that we don't perceive. It's just somehow the law of the universe that something happens. Not some magic or luck or something.
     
  18. dullfandan

    dullfandan Active Member

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    Everybody is pointing to the amandola play as a great play by Thomas.. Let's look at that.. It was a perfect pass thrown to a good wr and Thomas got a hand in to break it up... Ok let's change the players, say that was gronk... Does gronk let that ball drop to the ground? Amandola is a good wr but he cradled the ball with his forearms and never secured the ball with his hands.. An elite wr like gronk or fitz or megatron secures the ball with their hands then pulls it to their body... Amandola isn't known for his strong hands and that's why I call it lucky, that ball should have been caught yet Thomas got a hand in on the ball that wasn't secured and was able to shake it loose...
     
  19. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Everyone said the Patriots first SB season was luck and breaks. Then they win two more.
     
  20. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Never heard of lactose intolerance when people were drinking only raw milk. It seems to have become an issue about the time Pasteurization and Homogenization became popular and the govt told us it was necessary to protect our health. Another lie purported by the govt when it comes to food safety.
     
  21. jdang307

    jdang307 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Brown was not forced out. Well sort of. I also thought he had to step out but when they showed the replay from behind Clemons wasn't that close. Brown was beside him maybe 5-6 feet or more. Clemons forced him that way, sure. But it was an unforced error. Brown could have avoided Clemons and still be a foot or more from the sideline.
     
  22. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    We also eat eggs. The fetus of another creature. Maybe you don't.
     
  23. BigDogsHunt

    BigDogsHunt Enough talk...prove it!

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    You make your own luck!!!!
     
  24. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    So we're just lucky Gronk was injured and/or the Pats don't have Fitz or Calvin? Amendola has fewer drops this year than Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Brandon Marshall, and several other top WRs. He is tied for 20th most. Maybe he doesn't have the surest hands but he is far from the worst and not known for bad hands. This post has to be the lamest attempt to downplay a great effort by Michael Thomas. SMDH.
     
  25. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Thanks for reliving that depressing memory. I hope Steratore and Bergman burn in hell, if there really is such a place. What a totally lame explanation. :angry:
     
  26. dullfandan

    dullfandan Active Member

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    Amandola has been targeted a lot less than them other wr's so his drops are not up there with theirs, plus a lot of his targets are when he is not covered quick hitches and such.. I'm not downplaying what Thomas did, he was beat recovered and got a hand in there... But to think that play wasn't lucky that at least 50% of the wr's in the league make that catch? We got lucky...
     
  27. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    Lol @ They don't have definitive proof we recovered the football. That was even worse than calling it a TD initially. I got some extra Prozac if you need it.
     
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  28. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    The only lucky thing is that Thomas checked his voice mails and responded to his agent in time to agree to the contract, before Miami moved on to someone else. It seems ridiculous to me to say a DB using perfect technique to break up a pass is lucky, because it wasn't a better WR he was defending.
     
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  29. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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    You can say the same thing on that 4th down play, Amendola got jacked up by Jones and still made the catch. But to think that play wasn't lucky that at least 50% of the wr's in the league drop that pass? They got lucky.
     
  30. unluckyluciano

    unluckyluciano For My Hero JetsSuck

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    That would mean brown ****ed up. Not sure that's luck.
     
  31. TotoreMexico

    TotoreMexico Your retarded

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    Clemons made him change the direction of his run, if the Phins player wasn't there he doesn't step out of bounds, simple as that. Thus he was forced to step out of bounds.
     
  32. jdang307

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    That's nonsense. That's like saying a tennis player who hits the ball into the net was forced to because the other player hit the ball to him.

    He was not forced out of bounds. He had enough room to clear Clemons and stay in bounds. If he was more cognizant of the sideline his foot does not touch the white. Being forced to means there is no other option except to hit the sideline with his foot, which is not true. It was an unforced error.
     
  33. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    Actually the eggs that we eat aren't fertilized, they are actually the hen's "period". Unless you own hens and a rooster and actually eat the fertilized eggs...
     
  34. Fineas

    Fineas Club Member Luxury Box

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    You mean like all the passes that CJ just flat out dropped last night?
     
  35. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    I guess the "old" comments by Elam got to him :shifty:
     
  36. P h i N s A N i T y

    P h i N s A N i T y My Porpoise in Life

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    Yeah as for the Pitt game, we didn't outscore them with 34 by luck.... They did get a free defensive TD and almost a multi- lateral play to win it... They were almost lucky enough to pull it off......but why should we feel lucky that they didn't pull off a desperate hail Mary type win ? We flat out outplayed them, and the same goes for the Pats & Especially Jets games.

    We've been playing sound football and somehow avoiding the BAD breaks we're accustom to. I can't recall one bad turnover during this win streak.
     
  37. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    You just mentioned the pick-6 by the Steelers, IMO it was a bad turnover, because really, a turnover can't really get any worse than when it's returned for a TD, but we ultimately overcame that and won the game. Besides that turnover I don't think there was any other one.
     

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