Mainly, the position we are in entering the off season. I don't think the secondary is going to be as depleted as you seem to think. Also don't think needing a Kicker is that big of a deal. I agree on defensive tackle and the line. But considering the cap space we have left, even after bring back say Clemons/Grimes/Carrol and then extending Pouncey/Clay/Odrick, we'll still have cap left over to bring in quality FAs. Preferably on one year deals like Grimes. And then there is the draft.
Yea. Going into the off season we do. Reread what I wrote. I was talking about all our free agents. Pouncey is the only capable starter going into the offseason. McKinney Clabo and incognito are all free agents.
Knowing Dez Bryant I don't know the context or attitude he brought into the interview, I'm glad we passed..the guy hit his mother. The owner inherited a bad situation with a president of ops that really wasn't committed to the job and who hired the coach..owner wanted to see if the best coaching prospect had any interest in coaching for a fellow alum..tough situation for a GM. Bad pick by Ireland on Martin, misevaluation..don't know the context of the convo he had with the agent. Not sure what player your talking about that was held against his will.
Everything I said was based on going into the offseason. Before we resign any players. Unless we franchise tag someone, NONE of these players are guaranteed to be here in 2014. I'm just stating prior to any resignings the position of our team.
Ok, fair enough. I don't think we're in a bad position, though. That's what it seemed like you were insinuating.
It's not like that's all of our roster. How many people thought we'd be able to win games w the likes of Brenner or Garner starting? Call me crazy but I'm not ready to give up on Thomas yet either. Either way we're winning now despite a weak OL so I see no reason to think we can't and won't improve it in the offseason when we're going in to it w fewer position holes than last year, imo.
yea, I'd much rather have The Expendables (Odrick and Misi) than one of the 5 best receivers in the league while only paying him 3 million.
See this is where I disagree with you and the point I was trying to make. We aren't going into this off season with fewer position holes. We are going into it with much more because of all our free agents. If we can resign all our good free agents, then problem solved. But there is a lot of work to be done because of our free agent situation. We have a LOT.
Maybe. We'd be relying on Taylor, Davis and Wilson with Jones and possible a rookie at safety. That could be good, that could be bad. You can't say one way or another when the players just made it to the NFL.
Well true, but their ability to even get on the field while injuries hurt our secondary is not look good for them. They may improve dramatically sure. However I wouldn't be happy with relying on that unless they've shown flashes of something. And so far Taylor and Davis haven't shown any flash this season.
Youre right, sometimes I lump innocent people in with the crazies, my bad for that. FTR I don't think we will ever have a team that is devoid of weaknesses. That's not a realistic goal in this era IMO. OL is a sore spot but as we have seen in the last several weeks it's the easiest position to fix. The hard to find guys play QB, DB and pass rusher and we are set up pretty well there. I don't think Ireland will be fired but even if he was the new guy would be stepping into a very enviable set of circumstances.
I think we are. I think you're exaggerating the secondary. Both our rookie CBs should be ready for next year and there's no way Grimes is gone, imo. They also managed the same situation (in your opinion, a lot of FAs) last year, pretty well.
No its actually not. KB and CK have outlined it multiple times on this board if you actually would read what they wrote. It was a predraft meeting with Gil Brandt that actually made Ireland believe that he was a first round pick and here is Gil Brandts recap of the story (at about the 4 minute mark) http://www.miamidolphins.com/multim...-Brandt-/99250dc9-853f-4fb1-b051-be44fc6030a6 I hope CK doesnt mind me borrowing this.... As CK put it there were 2 conversations that took place with Brandt. In the first one Ireland basically says Tannehill is nothing special and in the 2nd one hes all over him. I know some will say that he just lied to Gil Brandt because he didn't want him to know how much he likes Ryan Tannehill. But clearly he didn't mind Gil knowing exactly how much he (Jeff Ireland) liked Ryan Tannehill in the second conversation. So if his goal was to lie to his buddy Gil Brandt, why reveal the truth later, still prior to the Draft? Doesn't make sense. Jeff all but admits he didnt want to do it here: http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thed...ed-our-principles-by-drafting-ryan-tannehill/ Let me guess, Peter King and Mike Florio have no clue....even the owner saw we needed a QB. Read more: http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com...ors-americas-greatest-walk.html#ixzz2oAzxlq00 http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/04/22/report-dolphins-ross-wants-team-to-take-tannehill/ And Brandt is not the only one he met with pre draft. I think there was someone in the Cincinnati organization he had ties to (Duke Tobin) that he had asked an opinion on Tannehill predraft. Its pretty common knowledge. But between Ross, Brandt and Jeff's own admission that he violated his own principles in drafting tannehill it clearly wasnt something he wanted to do.
Why should both our CBs be ready next year? And we had 3 starting free agents last year and one got hit with a franchise tag. Id say that's a little different then the 7 or 8 starters(8 if you count Carroll) that are free agents this off season. That's more then double. No comparison
lol It's still just all spin based on what analysts are saying. His buddy Gil Brandt is still employed as an analyst, no? Any GM giving any analyst an honest opinion of a player predraft would be pretty stupid, imo. Example for the rest of the spin: You guys read Ireland say, "we violated our principles taking Tan" and like to spin it as Jeff had his arm twisted and was lucky he was forced to draft a guy he didn't want.
Passing on Dez Bryant is not the issue. No one with any integrity whatsoever asks a prospect that question. There is a reason the NFLPA has marked Jeff Ireland for his treatment of players. Sage Rosenfels is the player that was held against his will. He equivocally stated that Jeff Ireland is the worst GM he's ever been around.
They'll be healthy. You're assuming they're all as valuable to the team as last year's FAs. Not a good comparison either.
It's the Jeff Ireland way of doing things. He does not anticipate where holes will be, and his free agent spending spree of this past year sets the standard for what he would probably do if he were to be retained in any fashion. I would expect him to throw money at the OL thinking that buying himself an OL will help ease the sting of his negligence this past year, but he will end up creating holes at DT and in the secondary as a result. You can already bank on Randy Starks not being here after this season. I think there is a good chance that we end up screwing up negotiations with Brent Grimes if Jeff is still around. Then we will end up overpaying for Nolan Carroll.
Slick. Come on dude. Seriously? This years crop isn't as important as last years? Have you been living on another planet? Last years 3 starting free agents: Hartline, Starks and Clemons. Umm. Some news for you. 2 of those are free agents this year. And Clemons play has been dramatically better. Brent Grimes, Soliai, Carroll, McKinney and Clabo.. Your right, it's not a good comparison. This years free agents are FAR more important then those 3 last year.
lol Man idk what to tell you. I'm just not ready to **** my pants over that considering how well Aponte did last year w our contracts and how much we accomplished. That w DL being the deepest position on the team.
Actually i just detailed Jeff irelands thoughts on Tannehill a few posts ago. Thats just your typical laziness and excuse making for Jeff Ireland. See how that works? It actually WAS Ross' decision to hire Philbin because Ireland had already announced Mike McCoy as Head Coach! Thats been documented as well. Ross was the one who spoke well of Philbin while Ireland sat at Philbins press conference looking like Ross just put him in time out. Yeah you had no dog in the fight....*/sarcasm* This isnt Irelands 3rd year, its his 6th. Parcells did him a favor sticking as far as Im concerned because without Parcells here he has 0/ZERO/CERO/CENTO (in any languange thats ZERO) playoff appearances in the other 5 years. And whose botched Harbaugh move was that by the way? No, Ross just is known as a very loyal guy, a trait to be admired except when such loyalty breeds contempt from your consumers towards someone you employ because of said persons incompetence and the way negative media attention constantly finds the guy. Irelands drafts havent been outright awful but quit acting like the guy is anything more then below average. Same guy who traded out of 12 in 2011 to trade down and select Odrick and Misi (instead of Earl Thomas). As far as threads go, get used to opinions you dont agree with. Not everyone will agree with me and I dont sit there hurling insults and complaining. People have a right to be critical especially when its warranted.
Oops. Good catch. I don't know how I missed those three. I'm tired as dog **** and can't sleep. My fault.
No worries, you can practically exchange Mckinnie and Grimes for Long andSmiths. Oh we both forgot Fasano.
Ouch. Well then I retract my other statement. Sorry slick. On the flip side. We had 7 starting free agents last year and we only resigned 3. One by franchise.
I believe there were reports that Ireland was very high on Ryan before Sherman and Philbin came into the pic.. From some predraft footage it sure looks like he was confident that he had the evaluation on lock.
No problem. Gotta be a good sign if you forgot the guys we didn't re-sign who haven't wound up being that important, right?
I can see why people do but I thought he was overrated bc of all the negative runs and dancing. The injury concerns didn't go anywhere either. And yet we're still winning games w a pedestrian running game that sometimes doesn't even exist.
We're 8-6 with 4 losses by 1 score or less. I get that youre not a Reggie fan and truth be told Im only lukewarm on him but hes better then what we got and Bush probably could have helped us win 2 of those games. At that point we wouldnt be talking about just making the playoffs, youre talking about challenging NE for the division. I can give a pass on Long faster then Bush because Long there is evidence he really tried to retain him and Long just didnt want to be here (nothing can be done in that instance when you offered a competitive contract) but they basically let Bush walk and hoped that Miller would be good. If youre going to let a good player walk you better be right about the guy youre plugging in. He wasnt (neither was I frankly), so now hes got oodles of cap room to carry over but we're one of the worst rushing teams in the league. How much better would be?
Yes, I know what you are talking about. In fact, I debated with CK about this very topic when the "news" was still fresh. It was BS last season, and it's still BS today. Ireland literally said he viewed Tannehill as a first round pick based off his junior tape the summer before we drafted him.
Here's a recap. Starters in bold. 2013 Free Agents QB Pat Devlin QB Matt Moore RB Reggie Bush WR Brian Hartline TE Anthony Fasano TE Jeron Mastrud OT Jake Long OG Nate Garner DL Randy Starks DL Tony McDaniel CB Sean Smith S Chris Clemons S Tyrone Culver 2014 Free Agents WR Marlon Moore TE Dustin Keller OT Bryant Mckinnie OT Tyson Clabo OT Will Yeatman OG Richie Incongnito OG John Jerry OG David Arkin OG Danny Watkins DT Randy Starks DT Paul Soliai LB Jonathan Freeny LB Austin Spitler CB Brent Grimes CB Nolan Carroll
Anyone could just as easily say the opposite. Especially w the OL run blocking taking a big step back. Assuming that those 2 games weren't the ones he missed due to injury. Long also got to play in a system that's fit him much better.
Even though Ireland said he viewed Tannehill as a first round pick based off his junior tape? We're supposed to just throw that out the window?
