He screwed us once. He has only screwed himself since. But I'll continue to support him, as a Dolphin for sure, but in this contest since he has done more for the Dolphins than half the guys still on that list. And by more I mean simply played more than a season. Not going to prop up anyone over him who hasn't even played a down for Miami, that's for sure.
Ted Ginn Jr. [25] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [17] Vernon Carey [17] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [38] + Samson Satele [20] Anthony Fasano [5] Ricky Williams [6] - What have you done for me lately John Beck [18] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [5] Joey Porter [12] Will Allen [13] Yeremiah Bell [8] Jason Allen [6] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [26] + Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [17] Vernon Carey [17] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [37] - Samson Satele [20] Anthony Fasano [5] Ricky Williams [6] John Beck [18] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [5] Joey Porter [12] Will Allen [13] Yeremiah Bell [8] Jason Allen [6] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
And I'd agree about the above players. But since there is a chance he gets outlasted by Jake Long, Justin Smiley, Ernest Wilford, Anthony Fasano, John Beck, Jason Ferguson, Jason Allen, Bill Parcells, Jeff Ireland, and Tony Sparano I'll keep supporting #34. Only two of these guys ever played a single down for Miami. And the rest of them except Parcells wasn't even with the team until 2008.
Ted Ginn Jr. [26] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [17] Vernon Carey [17] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [37] Samson Satele [20] Anthony Fasano [4] - Hey he's my favorite tight end on the Dolphins roster, but that ain't sayin' much. Ricky Williams [6] + Regardless of personal feelings for Ricky, qualifying him as equal to Anthony Fasano is Dolphin blasphemy. John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [5] Joey Porter [12] Will Allen [13] Yeremiah Bell [8] Jason Allen [6] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
That's unfair. Parcells' philosophy leaves plenty of room for players to leave their stamp on the game in a positive manner. There is nothing wrong with a no-nonsense approach. Lawrence Taylor is the perfect example. Taylor, at times, gave Parcells fits by disregarding his assignments. But Parcells came to trust Taylor, because LT's instincts and pure determination proved to be a better weapon than any defense that Parcells could draw up. In one of his books, Parcells talks about this. He refers to other players that expected to be given leiniency and allowed to interpret things in their own way. His response to them was, and im paraphrasing, 'when you play like he does, and dont let your head go to the clouds, i'll let you start cutting some corners too'. That's the prime difference between JT and LT. LT wasn't a primadona.
Ted Ginn Jr. [26] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [17] Vernon Carey [17] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [37] Samson Satele [20] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [6] John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] - Hasn't played a down in a Dolphins uniform yet. Joey Porter [12] Will Allen [13] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [6] Bill Parcells [9] + Should not be lower than Jeff Ireland. Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] + Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [17] Vernon Carey [17] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [36] - Samson Satele [20] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [6] John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [12] Will Allen [13] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [6] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
If I had read this before casting my vote I would have voted for Ricky again. You've been casting every vote for a guy because you have some kind of personal relationship with him and it has nothing to do with what he has done as a Miami Dolphin. Then you're going to accuse us of not being fans because we vote for a guy who gave us a lot of good memories as a Dolphin and we're hoping he can give us a few more? Come on now. I support your right to vote however you want, you should do the same for us without questioning our fanhood.
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [18] + Vernon Carey [17] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [20] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [5] - John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [12] Will Allen [13] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [6] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [18] Vernon Carey [17] Ernest Wilford [3] - Nothing personal Ernest, but this contest should be won by a guy that's actually put on the Dolphins uniform. Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [21] + See above. Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [5] John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [12] Will Allen [13] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [6] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Not at all. And honestly, why should it? Ricky hasn't played a full season for the Dolphins, much less in the NFL, in 5 years. He's hung his teammates, his coaches and his fans out to dry. I was content to leave Ricky alone assuming he would be eliminated sooner or later. But now I've made it a personal goal to eliminate him. I just don't see how our best defensive player Jason Taylor (admittedly I did eliminate him ) the player who saved the Dolphins from eternal humiliation Greg Camarillo, and even players like Channing Crowder and Michael Lehan could be eliminated before Ricky. If this makes Smiley a target now, so be it. I've said from the beginning that I know he's not going to win this thing. And honestly he probably shouldn't. But I would rather cast my vote for an honest, hard working guy who's going to give you everything he's got than a liar who's going to give you what he's got when he wants to.
Once again fixing the count. Jason Ferguson randomly lost a point without a vote a few pages back meaning he should have 5, not 4 now. Also adding my latest vote - Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [17] - Not out of spite. I could make an argument that Justin Smiley shouldn't even be in this contest still, let alone have double digits. Vernon Carey [17] Ernest Wilford [3] Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [6] + A little bit out of spite. I don't like being told I'm not a fan. But also I agree with Hisn' that he has done more than any other Dolphin on this list with the exception of Ronnie. John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [5] Joey Porter [12] Will Allen [13] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [6] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [18] Vernon Carey [17] Ernest Wilford [3] Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [6]+ John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [3]- Joey Porter [12] Will Allen [13] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [6] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
And fixing the count again. Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [17] Vernon Carey [17] Ernest Wilford [3] Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [7] John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [12] Will Allen [13] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [6] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [17] Vernon Carey [17] Ernest Wilford [4] + I know he hasn't put on a uniform yet. But he has demonstrated playmaking skills. Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [7] John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [12] Will Allen [13] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] - Still has not validated first round selection. Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [17] Vernon Carey [17] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [7] John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] - Will Allen [14] + Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [16] - Smiley will be a good player for us, just don't know if he should be ahead of Vernon Carey at this point. Vernon Carey [18] + See above. Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [7] John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [17] + Vernon Carey [18] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [6] - John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [17] Vernon Carey [19] + Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [5] - John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [16] - Vernon Carey [18] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [7] + John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [15] - Vernon Carey [19] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [7] + John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [15] Vernon Carey [19] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [36] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [7] John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [10] + Seems fair Jeff Ireland [10] - Seems fair Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [16] Vernon Carey [19] + because he's steady & reliable! Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [35] - becasue he's unproven after the injury and may not do well this year, or at least until fully healed Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [6] John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [9] Jeff Ireland [11] Tony Sparano [11]
What a ******* mess. About 5 people voted simultaneously and nobody is looking to see if it happened and fixing their votes. This is getting to be a full time job fixing this.
Correct count. PLEASE CHECK AFTER YOU VOTE TO SEE IF ANYBODY VOTED AT THE SAME TIME YOU DID AND EDIT YOUR POST IF NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!! Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [15] Vernon Carey [20] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [35] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [7] John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [10] Jeff Ireland [10] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [16] + Vernon Carey [19] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [35] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [6] - John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [10] Jeff Ireland [10] Tony Sparano [11]
My correct count wan't correct - Vernon Carey is at 20: Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [16] Vernon Carey [20] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [35] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [6] John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [10] Jeff Ireland [10] Tony Sparano [11]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [15] - Vernon Carey [19] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [35] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [7] + John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [10] Jeff Ireland [10] Tony Sparano [11]
You can only vote once every 2 hours. Correct count - Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [16] Vernon Carey [20] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [35] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [6] John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [5] Bill Parcells [10] Jeff Ireland [10] Tony Sparano [11]
People refuse to edit their post when someone else votes before them. And the votes are coming in so fast I can't keep up. When voting you have to check and see if anyone voted at the same time you did. If they did you have to account for their votes. Otherwise the count will be off. Also, see above post about voting limits.
I wasn't singling you out, everyone has been guilty of it (including me). And no problem about voting twice. Other people have probably gotten away with it, I just noticed because I was busy keeping up with those 200 votes that all came in at once.
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [16] Vernon Carey [20] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [35] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [7] + John Beck [19] Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [4] Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [4]- Bill Parcells [10] Jeff Ireland [10] Tony Sparano [11]
Ted Ginn Jr. [27] Jake Long [13] Justin Smiley [16] Vernon Carey [20] Ernest Wilford [4] Ronnie Brown [35] Samson Satele [21] Anthony Fasano [4] Ricky Williams [7] John Beck [20]+ Vonnie Holliday [6] Jason Ferguson [3]- Joey Porter [11] Will Allen [14] Yeremiah Bell [9] Jason Allen [4] Bill Parcells [10] Jeff Ireland [10] Tony Sparano [11]