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What's your gut say.

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by djphinfan, Dec 23, 2013.

  1. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    blah blah blah blah

    Do you just copy and paste this in every thread or do you take the time to re-type it?

    jesus
     
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  2. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    Because our offensive line is not athletic enough to get out there and block it...
     
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  3. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    my gut tells me we are on our way, but still have a good amount of work to do in key positions.
     
  4. Den54

    Den54 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    AMERICA!

    Scalpel in one hand and control v in the other.
     
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  5. FanMarino

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    My gut says we may get to the Playoffs but i'd rather get to the Playoffs with actual ambition and a shot at winning it. I'm a realist. Next season. If we can crack the East which is where i see our short term targets and not just Wildcard openings then i will get more confident. Small steps. Alot of ppl didnt have us cracking the playoffs this season. 3rd season for Tannehill with an improved O-Line will hopefully get us to the AFC East title.
     
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  6. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    that made me laugh...

    really with that ego I wouldnt let him treat my dog much less put me under the knife...
     
  7. mroz

    mroz Fix the OL Club Member

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    I love how every thread started in the mains gets high jacked into a Wallace sucks thread by the same group of people...
     
  8. Vinny Fins

    Vinny Fins Feisty Brooklyn dolfan ️‍

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  9. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think it has more to do with Matthews and Clay struggling to block in space. They routinely miss their initial blocks.
     
  10. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    I predicted 9-7 but was expecting to see a team progressing toward the end of the season and had high hopes they would do better than my prediction. They keep falling flat on their face I froze my a$$ off and paid big money to fly out and watch the biggest blunder of a game imaginable what an embarrassment. I couldn't even have imagined a worse game. As far as an offensive line, fire everyone except maybe Pouncy. RB's time to turn the roster. Coaches why do these guys get paid? Hard for me to stay positive after seeing that game. A 10 year old that plays Madden could have had a better game plan.
     
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  11. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I can't imagine how mad you must be. You spent all that $ and time...Froze you *** off...and basically the team did not show up. Kudos to you. This team owes you a better effort and a win this week. I wish I could promise you that.
     
  12. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    My gut tells me it wants more food, wine, beer, liquor, etc....
     
  13. Sceeto

    Sceeto Well-Known Member

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    Seriously. It's not worth reading. Totally shot!!
     
  14. Oghma

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    Not true. At least 50 percent get hijacked into Ireland threads.

    Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk
     
  15. Pauly

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    My gut told me 9-7 +/-1. It also said we would be better in the second half as all the new acquisitions gelled and got with the program.

    My gut tells me that the Incognito-Martin blowup was the best thing that happened to the phins all year. While we still don't know the wrongs and rights of it it is clear that there was a substantial problem in the locker room that wasn't being addressed, and that the OL has played better despite losing 2 of the (on paper) best players says a lot to me about there being a lot of bad ju-ju being ignored. Without the crisis the problem would have been continued to be swept under the carpet.

    My gut tells me that Jeff Ireland is out of his depth. He's building of a team is like a cat chasing a laser beam - lots of energy and effort but it isn't getting anything substantial done.

    My gut told me that 2014 would be our breakout season. My gut now tells me that our OL situation is too precarious to hope for 2014 to become the year we start our dynasty.
     
  16. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    I agree with that ^ but I do also think we are one dominant offensive tackle away from fixing that problem. I also think we need a mainstay at the ILB position. I want a Tasmanian devil like Zach Thomas was and like Luke Kueckly, and Kiko Alonso are.
     
  17. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    My guts says I don't know if we have the right head coach..

    My gut says with the same resources and time I could build a better football team..
     
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  18. JMHPhin

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    That's the problem, too many here actually believe they can do better. As if all you need is some playing experience in he and maybe college and you are capable. Not true. Some could if started out and was taught n trained n got experience.
     
  19. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    It's just a gut feeling thread..however, with the same resources and time spent, I do think there are some folks that I would trust to make good personnel decisions hover the long haul,. not just over Ireland, but others as well, doesn't mean I'm right..
     
  20. Pagan

    Pagan Metal & a Mustang

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    Yes it did. And they also just **** the bed in Buffalo a few days ago. My point is don't dismiss the Jets so easily. it's not like they're incapable of kicking our Phin's asses when Buffalo just did.

    Believe me, I'd love to be mistaken.
     
  21. rafael

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    My gut says that we have an ascending team with a developing franchise QB. I think you place too much emphasis on the play-making ability of a QB and too little on a QB's ability to make reads from the pocket. I think you need both. I agree that RT doesn't use his legs enough, but he is far ahead of most other young QBs at making reads from the pocket. IMO being able to make reads from the pocket is the more important skill. I think a defense can scheme to limit a QB's ability to hurt them through scrambles and to keep him in the pocket, but there's no defense against a perfect pass to the right read. I just watched the Seahawk game and as much as I love Wilson he struggled at making reads from the pocket. His best pass plays were the ones where he threw quickly to his first read or where there were designed roll-outs. On the plays where he was supposed to stay in the pocket and go through his progressions he was maybe 50/50. Most often he pulled it down quickly and made it a scramble drill (in this game most of those ended up as throw aways). On a few he just missed the pass. The play-calling makes his reads from the pocket a smaller percentage of the plays than what you see in Miami. I see his team's success (compared to Miami's) as having a great deal to do Lynch and the run game, the play-calling and the defense rather than b/c he's a much better QB than RT. In fact, IMO RT has shown greater ability to carry his team when there is no run game than Wilson has. Now I love Wilson and fully believe that he's a franchise QB, but I also believe that RT is in the same category and has shown even more ability to carry a team with less help (from the run game, play-calling and defense).
     
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  22. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Right. Not to mention The Jets have beaten NE this season. They're 7-8 with Geno Smith as QB. Rex Ryan has done wonders with a team that has no business winning 4+ games this season. I'm not taking them for granted.

    p.s. If Rex Ryan is fired, I want him as our new Dcord.
     
  23. bigbry

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    You must stop now Pagent
     
  24. steveincolorado

    steveincolorado Spook, Storme & Pebbles

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    Anything can happen, but im not betting on this team to scare anyone.
     
  25. xphinfanx

    xphinfanx Stay strong my friends.

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    Section has nailed my gut feeling so I'll just use his quote.

    Only for some odd reason I think we might make a good run at Denver if given the chance. I think we match up better against Denver than many teams we have played. Denvers D would give up some points but Manning would score to much for us to keep up.
     
  26. jdang307

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    When we had a good line in 2008-2009, were any of those holdovers are all Parcells/Ireland guys?
     
  27. jdang307

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    He doesn't need to drop it on a dime but there is a window. Simple enough to go see all his catches in Pitt and see what kind of windows he needs to be productive. And if it's so hard how did Ben do it for 3 years. I like Wallace a lot when he was in Pitt, and immediately thought we overpaid so I'm in the overpaid camp, but I'm also in the sunk cost camp meaning, he's already been paid. Let's quit *****ing about that.

    I have something to ask. What if we didn't resign Hartline. Say someone overbid on him and he was gone. Could Matthews have taken his place? We have the benefit of hindsight, and I'm not arguing we should have let Hartline walked (because Matthews didn't emerge yet and we didn't know how Gibson would perform) but with the benefit of hindsight, does Gibson + Matthews + $6m/year = Gibson + Hartline?

    This of course assumes Gibson doesn't get hurt because of course the depth helped there. But just wondering.
     
  28. djphinfan

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    I thought the team was building some trust as to how they would play, but the bills game with what was at stake really fu&$s with me..really hard to discern.
     
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  29. ckparrothead

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    He didn't. I've watched all of Big Ben's deep throws to Wallace over most of those years, and if anyone else has done the same they'd see that on the film. In 2012, the year before Wallace came to Miami, he and Big Ben had a terrible connection on the deep ball. And that connection wasn't as great as advertised in 2011, either.

    There's a big myth going on about what exactly Big Ben was throwing at Mike Wallace...and it isn't supported on tape.

    I thought the important thing was to choose between Hartline and Bess and keep one. So keep in mind, that's where I'm coming from originally on this.

    That said, in hindsight I'm way more glad they re-signed Hartline than I was when they originally did it. Buffalo game notwithstanding (putrid performance for him), he's extraordinarily consistent at what he does...and that's what I don't think Brandon Gibson or especially Rishard Matthews bring to the table. I'm not sure Gibson would have worked at all on perimeter actually, I think moving him to the slot turned out to be one of those "we're smarter than the rest of you" good moves. I tip my cap to that all day. None of the coaches that coached him in St. Louis saw it happening (and commented to that extent), and I certainly didn't see the slot working out for him on film. But that doesn't mean he would've been Hartline-like on the perimeter. I'm still not convinced of that.

    The guy I continue to dislike for the price tag in question is Wallace, until/unless he starts working a lot harder for the football. He's got 905 yards and 4 TDs with one game to go. He's on pace to end the year with 965 yards and 4 TDs. That doesn't work for me, not to the tune of $12 million. The guy can't just keep speeding his way beyond defenders and passively waiting for a ball to drop 60 yards into his bread basket on a dime. It's not going to happen. That's not even what happened in Pittsburgh.

    I mean, think about this. A guy that makes $12 million a year has produced 136 catches for 1780 yards and 12 TDs in his last 32 games. That's 68 catches, 890 yards and 6 TDs per season. That's not cutting it. And if you really want to be scared consider that in the previous 12 games he only caught 50 balls for 805 yards and 6 TDs...which means that over the last 44 games (damn near 3 full seasons) he's been producing like a 940 yard, 6.5 TD per year guy. That's what he's been for almost three full years.

    Given the lack of range in his skill set I'm actual pretty thankful they got Hartline back. It's bailed them out.
     
  30. Desides

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    That also applies to coaches. Yes, they have a closer view than we do. No, that doesn't mean their reasoning, decisions, and judgments are infallible.
     

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