Will you support this team next year if Ireland is retained?

Knowing the NFL though, it would probably cost me $1000 a year here in Canada I have Sunday ticket though, and that's what frustrates me, I spend so much time watching the phins play pretty boring, uneventful games, and miss out on some great football games. As a football fan, that bothers me, as a phins fan though, I have a hard time not watching them too. I just always have that hope that something great is going to happen in our game that I want to be a part of... of course it rarely happens..

Maybe I should start streaming redzone on my laptop while I watch the game, instead of being a part of the gameday threads here.

 

No, absolutely not. I will take my love of this team with me, well away from the destructive influence it has been on my soul the last 20 years or so.

I did it once before. I didn't watch a game nor follow the team in any way for four years; JJ's hire pulled me back in, but for what? One debacle after another; JJ, Wannstedt, Saban, Camcam, Parcells, Sparano, Ireland, Philbin and his cast from the movie "Cocoon." If Ireland isn't gone tomorrow, I'll walk away.

 

LOL Cocoon

 

i will do what i did for the last three years, watch the games on tv but have no expectations of anything good happening other than mediocrity if ireland stays. we'll probably have the DL dismantled but rebuild the OL. Its one step forward one step back with ireland

 

Man this is a team that gave Dave ****ing Wannestadt say in player personnel......I stuck with them through "Drew Brees doesn't have any more upside than Jay Fielder" so this is like a walk in the park.

 

Being a fan of a team means you root for that f***ing team no matter what! Period!

That said, this was a helluva disappointing home stretch...very sickening...but they're still my god****ed team! I don't need fair-weather, no matter how nice it would be.

 

7 ****ing points in 2 weeks. goddamit this team kills me, makes me want to kick the dog and punch the neighbors. Fortunately I am old enough to have lived thru the good times. The Marino era was magical and I still remember the joy of going to school the day after the Phins ended the Bears undefeated season and talking so much **** to everybody. Good times. I was crapping in my diapers the last time they won a super bowl and at the rate they are going I'll probably be crapping in my diapers when they finally decide to win another. I feel bad for you guys that are younger and who only know the pain of the crapfest of the last 2+ decades.

I'm insane, but I'll support this team until they put me in the ground, unless they relocate, in which case they can kiss my ***.

 

I can't abandon the Dolphins, the Dolphins are part of my own identity.

My friends and family all know me as an avid Dolphin fan.

However, if Ireland is retained, I will be fighting some very sinful murderous thoughts.

 

I'll always root for this team, but i may cancel my tickets.

 

Of course I'll still be a fan, that's something you just can't remove.

I won't be renewing my NFL Gamepass though and I definitely won't be investing so much emotion into them.

We have a family meet-up every Sunday but everyone knows come 6 pm I'll be sneaking away to a room to watch the game while screaming and shouting at whatever device I'm watching the game on.

If no changes are made I won't be doing that. Instead I'll spend the Sunday with the family and maybe glance at the score later that night/next morning.

 

This is the crux of the matter. Ross, Ireland, Philbin, these people are not the team. The team is a concept greater than whomever it is who currently owns, runs or coaches it. We support the team, and as fans we hold to account those privilieged enough to be able to run it at this point in time. You don't have to support the people running our team, just the team itself.

The best example of this comes when you look at teams that have moved and subsequently been recreated. The Cleveland Browns are the dawg pound, cold weather, and unfortunately a dismally depressed fan base. They are not Art Modell, and that group of employers and employees, when they moved, gave up the right that was granted them by the Browns fan base to represent them. If you don't mind using Wikipedia, go look up AFC Wimbledon, a soccer team over here in the UK, for probably the greatest example of this concept.

Do you burn the flag and renounce your citizenship when the President does stuff you disagree with?

 

If he is retained my Sunday nfl ticket goes bye bye. I can't believe I have paid for the crap since 96 to watch this.

 

My sentiments exactly.

I've had tickets going back to the OB but if Ross decides to keep Ireland we might have to vote with our wallet next year and just watch at home.

 

Im only 23 and the best years I've got to see were the 2002-2003 years, and even then we weren't all that great. I thought this year I'd finally get to see them go somewhere.

I'll always support them and they will always be my team. But things need to change and fast.

 

I went through 1-15 (even though this season was far more disappointing, IMHO). I'll be Dolphins fan till I die. But no more Sunday Ticket till Ireland is gone. And I won't attend anymore games until he's gone. If he's still here I won't even see them when they play in D.C. this season (10 minute metro ride).

 

94 was the year I thought they'd win it all. It doesn't matter though because this year they're not winning it all, and given the amount of roster work this team needs in the offseason next year isn't going to be it either.

 

Well, Bum...I'm not sure that yet another reset is the answer. I'm also not sure if just canning Ireland and not the coaching staff will simply result in the coaching staff getting dumped after yet another lackluster season (you know, next year after the GM says "This is enough!"). I know Mando has already reported it, but it seems to me, the least to happen is that Sherman and Turner are ousted. I also still think that once this report of the bully gate stuff becomes public [althogh there are numerous reports that there's no smoking gun], that there will be sacrificial lambs on the staff side of the organization.

I have really, really mixed emotions about Ireland. I think he gets way too much blame for things that have not been totally in his control. I mean, how different could this offense have been with Keller in there in place of Clay (although Clay developed nicely the last half of the year)? Would things have been different if Martin didn't "take his ball and go home" ? And to top it all off, anyone who thought this team was better than 7-9 at the beginning of the season should take off their aqua and orange sunglasses, so 8-8 is a tad better than what the talent level for this team was. You can say that the stats don't show that Wallace was worth the money, but really, even tho he isn't Josh Gordon, he affected the rest of the group of recievers positively. You can say that Wheeler and Ellerbe haven't been effective, but they haven't been totally useless and we'd have paid Dansby or Burnett twice as much this year and I can't say either would have been better than the two guys Wheeler and Ellerbe anyway.

I could care less about what Ireland did or did not do in 2008-2011 because it appeared last offseason, that Ross felt that way also. So rehashing those years are useless.

So the bottom line is that despite the questions, this team met expecatations of most of us...perhaps exceeded expectations of a few. We all have a bitter taste in how the season, once again, ended with a dissapointing last month, but I'm still not sure I'd like to be fans of Barfalo or the jests...

 

Of course Im going to support the team. I will just keep my expectations low.

 

We finished third in the division and got swept by the Bills. Can we really call anyone bad?

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I'm still a fan, but they better not call me about renewing my season tickets for a few weeks at least. Because right now I'd tell them where they can shove them.

 

The RedZone Channel is cheaper than Sunday Ticket. 50 bucks for the season.

 

I've been a fan since George Wilson, Sr. was the coach. I joyfully watched the early and middle Shula years, and grieved when he began to slip. I endured Wannstedt, dreaded Saban, was flabbergasted by Cam, Abhorred the Parcells cluster****, supported Ireland until this season played out, and will be a fan again next year. I might even be buried in my ecclesiastical robe with my Larry Csonka jersey on underneath it - I will always approach each season and each game with hope in spite of the nonsense I see on the field, and each off season with the hope that someone will wake up in the ownership, and realize that it's time to actually put a FOOTBALL team together! I will scream at the television, spend hours scouring the draft boards, stay glued to the information source at hand during the draft, spend time on this board until I can't type anymore, and watch every game that I can with the hope that something will happen by a player or a coach which will ignite the winning fire in this team.

Phins UP!!!!

 

I'll always support the team even if Ireland is the GM. I'll just be much more apathetic and pessimistic about them until they give a reason not to be.

 

Tough to keep supporting them when they continue to do nothing but hurt themselves. Especially living out here in Bronco country with a very entertaining team just down the street.

 

What does this have to do with Ireland? Coaching lost the last two games for us. Specifically Sherman.

Ditto

This is the exact thing I told my wife yesterday. No more Sunday ticket for me if changes are not made. Especially Sherman. All the games were played in the Orlando area anyways except two this year.

Here, here.

 

The way some posters are here, I bet a couple would want them to lose just so the can say Fire Ireland.

 

I'm pretty much in this same boat. Is it me or have the NFL refs gotten worse over recent years and failed miserably on countless occasions (see Mia @ NE 2013 as a glaring, almost intentional example). The refereeing has caused me to not even want to watch NFL games. The NFL seems to also be releasing more, "ya, the refs boned that call" statements than usual this year too...unless I just didn't catch 'em in previous years.

Not paying for Sunday Ticket will remove money I'm paying the NFL for sub-standard product in my opinion. Not to mention I'll go through less turmoil by just catching the scores when I can vice being knee-deep into every possible game I can watch. The investment is fairly stressful for me, not looking for pity, just stating fact.

For the first year since reaching adulthood, I won't be giving ANY money to the NFL. The rule changes are restricting the game...the officiating is balls...my team is mired with a non-football billionaire owner and other fail management. They gotta win me back financially. I'll NEVER stop rooting for the players and the team...it's in my DNA...I'll just withhold the wallet.

I love this team more than anything except family...and to watch the crumble that was this year's "snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory," I'm not sure my TV would survive another year of it anyway...and I like my TV.

 

Really good post.

I feel the same way, however to give up the Ticket is gonna be hard. Had it since the beginning.

 

I will support the Dolphins even if they hire Rich Kotite to be the coach and Matt Millen as GM.