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Changes of “some significance” coming for Dolphins

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Pro-X, Dec 30, 2013.

  1. Pro-X

    Pro-X End Game Club Member

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    take it with a grain of salt... Until it happens its all bs to me...

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ges-of-some-significance-coming-for-dolphins/

    Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reports that two sources have told him that changes of “some significance” are coming for the Dolphins. There were no specifics about what kind of changes, but that they could include the departure of General Manager Jeff Ireland and will “definitely” include changes to the coaching staff.
     
  2. Claymore95

    Claymore95 Working on it... Club Member

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    Ross has to, he must know that the last two games have seriously pissed off the fanbase, no changes will say he's happy with the same old same old. Any owner, no matter how useless he is, knows he's got to do something to give the fans some optimism...and at least some reason to spend their money on his product.

    Of course, I'll not hold my breath waiting on any changes being what is really needed...we've been kicked in the stomach too often in the past.
     
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  3. Griese's Glasses

    Griese's Glasses Well-Known Member

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    As long as they don't eject the best parts of the team while retaining the problems, no one will have a problem with change at this point.
     
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  4. mole351

    mole351 New Member

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    I'll believe it when I see it
     
  5. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    If these changes don't include firing Ireland it will be shades of 2010. Every fan in their right mind new this regime needed to be flushed but Sparano got one more season. And Ireland is somehow also still employed.
     
  6. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    "some significance" is such an subjective opinion that I am not sure we learn anything from that statement.It may just be the replacement of the STs coach to some.:wink2:
     
  7. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    The way it's worded suggests that definitely Ireland and Sherman are gone, with Coyle a possibility. That's what I gather at least.

    Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk
     
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  8. Stitches

    Stitches ThePhin's Biggest Killjoy Luxury Box

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    Ireland is gone for sure. Some of Philbin's staff will be if not himself too.
     
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  9. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Ah, anonymous sources making the most blatantly obvious statements you could possibly come up with. Clearly Armando is after the "angry Dolphin fans who want somebody/anybody fired" traffic.
     
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  10. HULKFish

    HULKFish Artist and Scribe

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    They'd be stupid to fire Philbin. Coyle should go IMHO. His gameplan's the last 2 weeks were atrocious, and he had no adjustments. Not to mention the degredation of the run D. Sherman, maybe. OL coach, definitely.
     
  11. yoge

    yoge New Member

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    I'd keep Sherman. don't think thill can learn another system as fast as we would like him too.
     
  12. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The Troika of Terror a/k/a Sherman/Turner/Taylor have to go. Excise that whole freakin family from this organization.

    I'd fire everyone, but at least start with them and Ireland
     
  13. Coral Reefer

    Coral Reefer Premium Member

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    Sherman is one of the key elements that clearly need to go.
    What good is the system if what you call within it is limiting and predictable?
     
  14. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    while I usually hate shakeups for the sake of shakeups, we won't be losing much if we kick Sherman, Coyle and Turner out the door.
     
  15. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    And what type of fan do you consider yourself? The type of fan who defends coaches, players, FO, etc no matter how much ineptitude they display?
     
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  16. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    IMO Sherman was calling plays according to Philbin's instructions.
     
  17. schmolioot

    schmolioot Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Don't worry, Brandon Fields isn't going anywhere
     
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  18. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    I guess it's easier to call people inept for you than it is for me. Or Ross. Or Philbin. Or anyone else who actually knows what's going on. I hope that works out for you. I hope it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
     
  19. Coral Reefer

    Coral Reefer Premium Member

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    Maybe.

    However:

    Head coaches give direction in how they want games called but the coordinators make those calls and manage the game when it comes down to it unless the HC literally calls in what he wants. Nothing that I have seen has even insinuated this is what has been going on.

    Secondly, Sherman's Dolphins tenure is not the first time having his game plan/management and calls being a focal point of controversy.
     
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  20. Samphin

    Samphin Κακό σκυλί ψόφο δεν έχει

    Soooo, all of my fake tweets from last night are coming true. Does that mean I broke the news? Or did I break the news?
     
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  21. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    Agreed. But I saw some things from Sherman this year that were so against the grain that I have a hard time believing he was doing it without instructions or at least blessings from his boss. Abandoning the run early in games, not calling screens, draws, counters, traps, etc. Not moving the pocket, running the QB, moving Wallace around to create favorable matchups, among other things. It's hard for me to imagine that Sherm decided all that on his own. If Philbin was a bystander to that then it doesn't speak well for him in my book.
     
  22. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Ireland should go. I've been debating it a lot lately and I'm turning the corner on this. I stand by my original idea that he should get this season, and he did. Now I'm judging him fairly without bias and I don't think he should be back.

    Philbin should remain another year unless the new GM decides objectively that he isn't the man for the job. Not just because the GM wants "his guy".

    Sherman needs to go. No more game plans written with crayon and construction paper please. I'm not sure Sherman doesn't do it that way...he's that inept.

    Coyle I'm on the fence. I wouldn't mind keeping him but he needs to better utilize his LBs and set them up for success not failure. Also needs to look at his late game defensive calls, man up and make some changes.

    New OL and QB coaches as well.

    I honestly believe we are an easy rebuild for a decent GM. We have some nice pieces, now lets add to them and make a run.
     
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  23. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    im going to be updating my phone all morning.
     
  24. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    That statement right there, to me... says that they all need to go. Whether it was Sherman's decision to do all of that, or Philbin's... It's irrelevant. Someone decided to do things that way... they should have collectively been able to realize it's not working, and try to adjust. We had the same problems all year long on field. It never changed. To me, that's damning of the entire staff. I dont care who was the bystander, and who was the director, it was all wrong, it wasnt ever really fixed asife from maybe a few brief momments. To me, that means your OC needs to go, and your HC needs to go for failing to take control, especially when he's a former OC. The whole thing is flawed at this point IMO.
     
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  25. MonstBlitz

    MonstBlitz Nobody's Fart Catcher

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    I also believe this to be true. This team has a greatly improved young QB with the arrow pointing up. Bring in a GM who can build a competent offensive line and this is no major overhaul. It's a flawed roster, but it just needs some glue in the cracks to bring it all together. The problem is Ireland can never fix it. Not without making more cracks. He's proven this time and time again. If he's retained he will prove it again.
     
  26. emocomputerjock

    emocomputerjock Senior Member

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    I agree, you can't seperate Philbins ultimate responsibility from what Sherman was doing. Philbin blessed the plan weekly and has override authority on all plays.
     
  27. bigbry

    bigbry Huge Member

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    If Sherman were to get ****canned , it doesn't mean a entirely different offense would be installed. We have more then 4-5 plays in the playbook.
     
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  28. bigbry

    bigbry Huge Member

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    I'm not giving a lot of credence to the link in the OP. Generic reporting.

    Basically, pics or didn't happen...
     
  29. Larry Little

    Larry Little Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Sherman is terrible. He needs to go. Tannehill is crazy smart, and would have absolutely no problem learning a new system.
     
  30. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    I wouldnt shed any tears if they we're let go but IMO they'll get at least one more season. I just hope they've been sufficiently humbled by what's happened.
     
  31. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Even if it DID take him time to acclimate himself, ill take one learning year overultiple years of Sherman. He won't be the OC for Ryan his whole life, so it will be an issue at some point. Lets get it out of the way now.
     
  32. GMJohnson

    GMJohnson New Member

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    I'd love to know what Philbins game day role is. I see him walking up and down the sideline, clapping and saying let's go, talking in his headset on occasion. I don't see him talking to RT, the OL, receivers, etc. He doesn't call plays, both coordinators are upstairs, so what is he doing, anyone know?
     
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  33. gunn34

    gunn34 I miss Don & Dan

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    If true, Philbin needs to be shown the door too.
     
  34. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I agree.

    I find it hard to believe Philbin said "No moving the pocket. No draw plays. No HB screens. In fact don't run the ball".

    If he did...can him.
     
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  35. NY Finatic

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    The offense was very Vanilla, like many have said....predictable. Im not a big fan of gimmick plays, but we saw nothing this year to shake things up once in a while.
    I still have a hard time with them letting Bush and Marshall go.
     
  36. chadisawesome

    chadisawesome New Member

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    they all need to go. I like philbin, and think he could succeed, but no top tier GM is coming to the team handcuffed to a head coach.
     
  37. bigbry

    bigbry Huge Member

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    Leave the word some out and I would begin to have faith Ross grew a pair overnight.
     
  38. Vendigo

    Vendigo German Gigolo Club Member

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    What's the alternative? That he thought Sherman should call differently but didn't tell him to? In fact, that's even worse.

    I've never really understood why people tend to evaluate an OC/DC on an island. If Philbin didn't think that handing the ball to Clay on 4th and inches, he had every authority to overrule the call. If Philbin wanted more screens, rollouts, draws, all he had to do was tell Sherman to call them. A pretty significant part of Philbin's job is to make sure that his assistant coaches are doing theirs properly. If he cannot do that, he has no business being a head coach, no matter what he actually called on the field himself.
     
  39. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    I don't disagree, but geez, folks Armando?? Really?? Guy doesn't have a clue as a reporter/team insider...
     
  40. FaninPatsyLand

    FaninPatsyLand The Truth

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    Could not agree more. You can't hammer Sherman for playcalling and a general lack of offensive productivity and then turn around and give Joe Philbin a pass.
     

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