Among tackles, potential free-agent targets would include Kansas City left tackle Branden Albert (Miami wouldn’t give up a second-round pick for him last April, and there’s a good chance he moves on this offseason); left tackle Eugene Monroe (Baltimore acquired him in October for fourth- and fifth-round picks and doesn’t want to lose him); New Orleans right tackle Zack Strief (three sacks allowed, decent in the run game); Jets right tackle Austin Howard (two sacks allowed, not a great run blocker); Oakland left tackle Jared Veldheer (missed first 11 games because of torn triceps but well regarded), St. Louis left tackle/guard Roger Saffold (injury history but very skilled) and Cincinnati’s versatile Anthony Collins, who started the season as the Bengals’ sixth offensive lineman and now is starting at left tackle and hasn’t allowed a sack in 592 snaps this season. Among tackles in the draft, ESPN’s Scouts Inc. has four rated as top 30 picks. Texas A&M’s Jake Matthews and Michigan’s Taylor Lewan likely will be long gone before Miami selects 19th overall. Alabama junior Cyrus Kouandjio could be, too; ESPN’s Todd McShay has him 10th in his mock draft. The player considered the fourth-best tackle, Virginia’s Morgan Moses, is rated 25th overall by both ESPN’s Scout Inc. and McShay. Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...dolphins-canes-postscripts.html#storylink=cpy
BJax also wrote that Carl Petersen loves Philbin. Great advice from the guy who traded a draft pick for Herm Edwards
### Some Dolphins players privately believe coach Joe Philbin, reserved by nature, needs to improve as a motivator and in how he prepares teams emotionally for games. The flat demeanor and unemotional “stay the course, don’t get too high or low” message doesn’t resonate with some Dolphins and was reflected in their play at times. And reading to his players off index cards isn’t exactly inspiring. Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...dolphins-canes-postscripts.html#storylink=cpy YA THINK?
Doubt he can change. He is who he is. If he suddenly becomes a teller then it will likely come off as unauthentic
Personally, I don't think you have to have a fire and brimstone coach in your face all the time, but, the little hand clapping on the side lines is quite pathetic. I imagine what goes on behind close doors is not much different imo.
And, the reality is, the Rah-rah stuff is not a big deal. Coaches win with all sorts of personalities. Belichick is nothing - absolutely nothing - at all like Pete Carroll or Jim Harbaugh. But, he still wins. The personality stuff is generally not a big deal unless a guy is a total weird agent. It really is a) how good a teacher you are; and b) how well you prepare the team mentally. Rodney Harrison was on Dan Patrick and noted that what made Belichick the best coach was mental preparation. He said the mental part of football (knowing where to be, making the right decisions, understanding what is happening on the field) is the most important part of the game. That's what it comes down to for Philbin.
Obviously Peterson had a lot of input on the hire, as well as Keeping Ireland around..... perhaps we should turn our pitchforks to him ?
back to the OL discussion. Any more, in round 1, it really doesn't matter where a player is ranked as far as #25 #10 or #35 (even by teams). It often will come down to what a team thinks it needs. I saw a great run down of teams draft needs on NFL.Com. If the Dolphins are at #19, there are probably 14-15 teams ahead of them that have OL as one of their top 1-2-3 needs in the draft. I am not a fan of Kouandjio. He has the physical size, but he won most of his battles that way. We'll see. I was not impressed with him or Alabama's offensive line this year. They were talented but not great. That said, the Dolphins are desperate. They could actually use 4 upgrades. 3 new players (unless they retain Mckinney) would be vital. THe fear I have about Ireland staying on is that he will be content with John Jerry. Ireland's unwillingness to properly upgrade the O-line could well be the downfall of Tannehill's career.
This isn't about rah-rah, it's about force of personality and the ability to motivate. A coach can be a quiet Bellichick type or a Bill Cowher type, whatever gets it done. I look at Philbin and I see a wet rag of a personality, uninspiring- can you say, by any means, that Philbin got his troops mentally ready to play over thise last 2 games? That was pathetic. And the last two games, for me, are the icing on the cake when it comes to that. Nice guy, would make a good OC, but he's not true head coach material imo.
The problem is, we apparently have players that need someone to motivate them at this level instead of motivating themselves. Joe Philbin's sideline demeanor is not that different from Tony Dungy's or Lovie Smith's.
So, what exactly did he do during all the distraction of the Incognito/Martin stuff that kept the team motivated and focused? If you say that the team motivated themselves, then if that is the case, why couldn't they motivate themselves in the final two games?
Perhaps setting team captains (i.e. leaders) throughout the whole season rather than alternating them each week would be one way to do that.
Speaking of Oline options, how do we proceed with J.Martin ? That's the big question. Might not get much more than a 3rd day pick for him. We have 3-4 starting spots on the line to be filled, that is a mess. Something tells me we are going to be using the word "gel" a ton next season. The line has to be priority #1, and it won't be fixed with a draft pick or two.
He didn't keep them focused is motivated during that circus. They got beat by Tampa. Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
How about the Carolina game? Or the first NY Jets game? Or the NE Patriots game? Or the Cincinnati game? Essentially, if Joe Philbin was as bad as some of you made out, there is no way this team, with this talent, wins 8 games. You guys are trying to make him out to be another Cam Cameron, and he's simply 10 x better than that.
We aren't gonna get a pick for him. Some of the statements on this site about trading him are ridiculous. Both him and incognito are gonna get cut. Rightfully so. Martin clearly struggles and would struggle to find himself a buddy in the locker room. Whatever you think about cogs play, his off the field behaviour will see him cut. There will be no trade. We're gonna have to eat it. Such is life.
I would be more than happy if most of the draft picks this year are spent on OL and LB, with Wheeler and Ellerbe shown the door and Jordan moved to OLB. A couple of exceptions that come to mind would be TE CJ Fiedorowicz and DE James Gayle, good players and good fits imo.
Maybe they could hand those footballs out to angry season ticket holders as an apology for standing pat on an unpopular general manager for a seventh year. But no, seriously. I think the unfortunate truth is that he's going to get cut and we're going to wind up with nothing to show for that 2nd round pick. What can ya do about it?
This is true. We aren't talking rec sports and motivation is brought amongst the players. Sorry to take it OT
could I not say the reality is the players were not inspired to play by their coach and weren't united and hyped enough because of it.. These were my concerns after observing coach in his first year.. A coaches job imo is to unite it's team emotionally and to turn that to play into controlled anger to get the best performance..there are other ways to get that unity and performance Belicek style, but like Lombardi once said, if you win the players hearts they will go to great heights. At this point all of them aren't believing..he will need to change some of his ways.. And, some of the players are pu$$ies for having an excuse.
It's his job to find ways to sustain it, it's his job to motivate 53 guys, if you think a team of players is going to self motivate all the way to a championship I would disagree.. That's part of the job..winning your players over..
And if he was so good, he wouldn't have got beaten by the teams he did.. The jets are better than us.
That Eugene Monroe trade kills me still. He's worth higher then he was traded for even factoring in a new contract.
I think there is a big misconception about Bill B and Philbin being the same personality as Bill's. Now I'm not in the locker room so I just judge off sidelines and everything he shows in the public. Philbin is more of the Lovie Smith mold. Bill isn't a rah rah guy. But he has a certain ******* mentality. So he's not to up and down, but his personality breeds swag and confidence. Players don't want to **** up around BB because he will make you feel like an ******* without belittling you. And everyone plays off his "I'm better then everyone else" smugness. Just my opinion of course.
All one has to do is watch a documentary on Belicek and see how he teaches the game...teaching is how he inspires, he doesn't need to do sh@& on game day from a motivational aspect, his work and motivation as been implemented throughout the week, he then trusts his players on Sunday to execute and play ball....he's a great head coach..
The other consideration is Joe Philbin is a Career Offensive Line Coach. I'll leave the rest for you to fill in.
I don't want us going into the draft knowing we need to find 4 starting OL from our 7 picks, that's next to impossible with the bust rate of draft picks. We have to find at least two starting linemen, and preferably 3 or 4, from FA so that we're not reliant on rookies to save our running game/Tannehill.
For whatever reason the team didn't handle prosperity well. They started 3-0 then went into a month long swoon. They recovered and went 5-2 to position themselves for a playoff berth then collapsed in two very winnable games. Clearly they wanted to get younger which is understandable. But in the process they lost a lot of the veteran leadership and it seems to have bitten them in the ***. Hopefully it serves as a learning experience.
There are a lot of quality OTs available and they voided McKinnies contract so I'm guessing they plan to do something in FA. If not Albert then someone else. It also helps explain why Ireland balked at giving up the 2nd round pick for Albert or taking Lane Johnson over Jordan.
Without a doubt. We need starters. Any free agent of that caliber that we don't have to use a draft pick on. Sign him. Sign him yesterday.
I've lined up a few candidates to replace our current tackles and guards. Should be an immediate upgrade.
Shane Skov about to play, media reports says he spoke to the team before the game last year and again this year....lets see how his play and the team responds..
