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QB Matt Moore Is Due 5.5 Million In 2014; Do You Replace Him??

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Phoenician Fan, Jan 6, 2014.

  1. Phoenician Fan

    Phoenician Fan Well-Known Member

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    It would save about 4 mil in cap to move Matt Moore by trade or outright release. If the Dolphins let him go, who would you like to see replace him as the #2 QB??

    Would you like to see a player acquired that would challenge Tannehill for the starting position?? Or would you rather they not stir the pot and just find a QB to plug in at #2.

    And what of Devlin?
     
  2. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Trade him. And Devlin would be a fine second string.
     
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  3. heylookatme

    heylookatme Well-Known Member

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    Spend that money on the OL. I like Matt Moore, but I'd rather have a running game than a decent backup QB.
     
  4. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    This is so far down my list of concerns at this point.

    I mean, we have a sociopath using a mentally-handicapped guy's checkbook to stock the larder for a guy who flatlined years ago.

    It's almost irrelevant what happens with Matt Moore.
     
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  5. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    I am fine with Devlin
     
  6. Rocky Raccoon

    Rocky Raccoon Greasepaint Ghost Staff Member

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    I like Matt Moore, but it'd be hard to see him surviving with that salary. Devlin has been the coaching staff's pet project and he has seemed to improve the last few years. I'd be comfortable giving him a shot as the backup.
     
  7. BayAreaFinFan

    BayAreaFinFan D'oh Club Member

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    If we don't fix the line or if Ireland keeps up with his master plan, unfortunately we may need Matt Moore.
     
  8. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    You people are nuts if you trust Devlin with the backup job, dude was not only terrible in training camp...he was unwatchable.
     
  9. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Devlin won't be our backup... we're drafting a back up in a deep QB draft... How can anyone be okay with just Tannehill, the guy needs competition.... And what if Tannehill gets his knees blown out, you're fine with Devlin? Hell no...
     
  10. Jt0323

    Jt0323 Fins Up! Luxury Box

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    Keep him, trade Tannehill :shifty:
     
  11. unifiedtheory

    unifiedtheory Sub Pending Luxury Box

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    He will renegotiate that deal and get it to around $2 million. Either that or he has to move his family elsewhere, for the same money and the same job description.

    Devlin is not a back up. I like the concept of having a young quarterback as the third guy to groom to eventually be a competent back up. Those guys only get so much time. Draft another one this year, have him beat Devlin for the gig.
     
  12. Phoenician Fan

    Phoenician Fan Well-Known Member

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    Insignificant?????????? We could re-sign Clemons with that cap room; or acquire Matt Slauson or Jon Asamoah, or at least Al Woods or Ropati Pitoitua if Starks and Soliai Walk.

    4 mil is a lot of cap space.

    I'd rather draft Jimmy Garoppolo or even Conner Shaw late and keep my 4 mil for UFA's or to bring back Grimes.
     
  13. bg12dm13cp10

    bg12dm13cp10 New Member

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    Obviously you didn't watch, as he was the best of the three in the preseason games (two years in a row). He was the only QB to consistently move the ball, had the highest QBR, completion %, and drives into the redzone. You mean you trust Matt Moore? He had his chance to save our season in the last game after our trusted starting QB couldn't do it and...
     
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  14. brandon27

    brandon27 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Get rid of him. That's way too much cash for a backup IMO. Not sure I'd trust Devlin as the backup. I'd maybe bring in another cheap backup from somewhere else to replace Moore and then see how it goes with Devlin.
     
  15. VManis

    VManis Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    A QB needs competition when he is too comfortable being the starter and just going through the motions to get better. Mark Sanchez needed competition. Whether you think Tannehill is the guy or not, he has shown that he takes the position seriously and by all accounts works hard at improving. Tannehill doesn't need competition to motivate him and the team has too many other holes to waste a significant pick on a QB.
     
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  16. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Actually yes I'm fine with Devlin. I've maintained his entire time here that he will be borderline starter/great backup material in the NFL. Loved his colleve tape.
     
  17. Zach13

    Zach13 Season Ticket Holder

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    I'm fine with Devlin and drafting another QB.
     
  18. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I mean I look at it and say ya...that's an easy 5.5m to save. I have zero faith in Ireland to find an OL that's suitable. I have zero faith in the coaching staff to put that line in a position to play well, coach them up. I habe zero faith in them to improve, coach up Tannehill's pocket presence.

    Thinking of those factors, I think it's a must to have a backup of the quality of Moore because Tannehill won't get through anotjer season of this..
     
  19. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Delvin and then draft another QB later in the draft to compete with Delvin.
     
  20. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    thats just more money that needs to go to o line. yes, drop him.
     
  21. CaribPhin

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    I'd look at Jason Campbell or maybe Brian Hoyer. I doubt Cleveland keeps both after the draft.
     
  22. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    I don't see Moore as a good fit and don't see anyway to justify his return at that salary.
     
  23. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Too many cooks spoil the broth.
     
  24. Deerless Dice

    Deerless Dice Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Slauson has already resigned with Chicago,
     
  25. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Yes, in the draft.
     
  26. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    Brian Hoyer would rip the starting job right out of Ryan Tannehills heart....Ok...maybe not that easy but bringing in Hoyer would mean major major competition for Ryan Tannehill. I Love what I saw out of Hoyer in the games he played this year. Guy just gets it man...Ultra quick release, smart, and can lead. I'd love it if we signed him to push Tannehill.
     
  27. ExplosionsInDaSky

    ExplosionsInDaSky Well-Known Member

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    I don't think we need to keep Matt Moore at this point. His price is too high in my opinion and that money can be spent elsewhere. No reason to pay a backup that kind of money when we aren't a fully complete team everywhere else. If we were a stacked football team and wanted surefire insurance in case of a Tannehill injury (Dallas Cowboys) I'd be all about keeping him. The job can go to Devlin, and we can look into signing a guy for a reasonable price.
     
  28. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    I wonder if Moore would restructure. He should know by this point he isn't a starter.
     
  29. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    What about Pat Devlin?

    I thought the Phins were pretty high on him...
     
  30. Unlucky 13

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    I'd do the honorable thing and cut him early and let him explore his options. Give him a number that Miami is willing to spend. If he can beat it, good for him. If not, come back at a better, more reasonable price. I have to imagine that his contract was structured the way that it is for that reason.
     
  31. Desides

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    What criteria to you use to judge if Devlin has improved? He never plays.
     
  32. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Details matter. Matt Moore's CAP NUMBER is $5.5 million but he's only set to be paid $4 million. That's all Miami would save by cutting him.

    Not that it matters that much (the $4 million saved is much more important), but there would only be $2.5 million of cap relief in 2014 if they cut him, depending on when they do it.
     
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  33. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    Overthecap.com has the savings at $4 million because of his $1.5 million of dead money. Do you have a different source?
     
  34. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    He was given a $3 million signing bonus and his $5 million of salary was split into $1 million in 2013 and $4 million in 2014. If you check the details of the overthecap numbers and/or the spotrac numbers I'm sure they're there.
     
  35. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    Preseason I guess. His arm strength has imptoved, and watching him in college I rarely saw him NOT hit the receiver right in the hands, in stride.

    I have confidence in him. I won't be angry if we draft another project QB as well but I believe in Devlin as a backup.
     
  36. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    So wouldn't that equal a cap hit of $2.5 million and $5.5 million? Since $1.5 million is bonus his second year, cutting him saves $4 million? Which is what the overthecap numbers suggest.
     
  37. GridIronKing34

    GridIronKing34 Silently Judging You

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    I think this is correct.
     
  38. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Uh Mark Sanchez has had a better career so far than Tannehill, fact. And that's not even saying much.
     
  39. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Oh yeah, may I also mention the fact that we've picked up these gem's with our other draft picks under Ireland, who is coming back next year:

    Egnew
    Kaddu
    Cunningham
    Randall
    Daniel Thomas
    Clyde
    Kearse
    AJ Edds
    McCoy
    Pat White
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    Nalbone
    See entire 2013 draft.
    And much more.

    Pretty sure none of them filled any "holes" and some on that list are second round picks. We can afford to use a 3rd/4th round pick on a deep quarterback draft.
     
  40. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    No you restructure his contract. Moore is as solid of a backup as is available and could possibly start on a lot of teams. We need to keep him in case Tanne goes down. It is a season saving insurance plan, messing with it is silly.
     
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