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Tannehill, Philbin & the Offensive Line:

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by the 23rd, Jan 7, 2014.

  1. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    already ran an extensive thread on the offensive line & what I thought could be done, months ago. what I know cannot be done is to successfully build an OL around Pouncey through the draft in time for next season.
    1) would fire Turner immediately & find a proven NFL OL Guru to coach up this motley crew.
    2) would go after Maurkice In free-agency, moving Mike to left-pulling guard, re-sign Incognito at RG, try to negotiate a favorable contract for McKinnie & Clabo, then pick up a tackle to groom & possibly compete in the draft.


    about this & that: my earlier predictions about Tannehill not surviving a record breaking rookie & franchise sacking unfortunately became reality. apparently, no one noticed that Tannehill was injured & folded like a tent in his last two games of the season, ending our hopes for a play-off. all this because of neglecting an offensive line.

    I like Philbin but have to place the destruction of our season & near-destruction of our franchise QB squarely on his shoulders... he simply should have known better. it all begins in the trenches. hope Tannehill gets over it & this does not mar his future development. in this sense I can see why he lost faith in Sheridan & a new OC is a priority.
     
  2. MIASportsFan

    MIASportsFan New Member

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    There is no way Incognito comes back. I like the rest of your ideas though. I would draft at least 3 OL in the first 5 rounds though. Adds depth and gives us options for injuries/guys not playing well.
     
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  3. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    and I agree with in as much as there will ultimately be some kind mix & match... I was thinking (behind the thought/thread) that we would ultimately have to go into free-agency or consign ourselves to more of the same in 2014

    about Igcognito
    what if the final decree is nothing more than a chastisement & lecture about "racial sentient" & "playfulness"
    what if he were willing to return at cut-rate prices? like him, don't like him... he is one of the best available guards
    at what point do you persecute someone who has been found innocent ? Is this fair to the team, the franchise or him?
     
  4. The_Dark_Knight

    The_Dark_Knight Defender of the Truth

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    Incognito is a distraction. Justified or not, the question will always linger, the press will always wonder and in the back of teammates minds...they're always going to wonder.

    He and Martin both have got to go!
     
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  5. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    not sure I'd want Maurkice after that injury. center is too important to take that risk IMO. we tried that trick this preseason, pinning our hopes on a guard that could recover from a major injury.
     
  6. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    Your plan sucks dude. At the very minimum, 3 starters on the 2014 OL should not be current dolphins.
     
  7. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I would think about making a run at Pouncey if the knee is looking good, then draft a tackle high, then another guard pretty early..inject three talented players right off the get..just gotta hit on the two from the draft..
     
  8. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    yea good luck with that...
     
  9. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    I think you've got to find at least 3 new starters, and maybe only one has to be from the draft. Don't know how many good O-lines out there run with more than 1 rookie starter.

    They have their center, so IMO they need to figure out another player in the roster that can start as a guard next season. Maybe Dallas Thomas' balls drop and he's able to contribute.

    That leaves 3 spots to fill, so you try to find a good LT in FA, shore up that all important position, find another good guard, and then go to the draft only needing a starting RT.

    I really don't want McKinnie, Clabo nor Icognito to even sniff a starting spot for this team.
     
  10. Oghma

    Oghma Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Re: Tannehill, Philbin & the Offensive Line:

    A couple of things on Incognito:

    1. He was having a bad year anyway before the suspension. No guarantee be plays well next year and in a good year I think he's pretty overrated.

    2. Off the field, even if nothing comes of the bullying stuff, he still has the golf outing nonsense hanging over him. For that alone I wouldn't bring him back.

    I agree that we're going to need a mix of free agency, draft and current roster players to form the starting 5 for next year. I just don't think Incognito will (or should) be a part of that.

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  11. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    he clearly needs to get better at his job if he's retained, lets hope that he and Philbin can figure it out...I'm sure, at least I hope that all the coaches looked at Dallas Thomas and said heck yeah lets draft him..
     
  12. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    To be fair a guard can be greatly impacted by the tackle next to him. Also Richie is a man blocking RG being used as a zone blocking LG. Imo
     
  13. Vengeful Odin

    Vengeful Odin Norse Mod

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    It appears that you can critique other ideas pretty well, but I'm awfully curious how you would go about fixing the mess that is our offensive line. Do you have any thoughts on that at all?
     
  14. Oghma

    Oghma Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Re: Tannehill, Philbin & the Offensive Line:

    I agree with that, but I still wouldn't take him back though. For one thing, I imagine we'd still misuse him anyway.
     
  15. Pariah

    Pariah Revolutionary

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    Bro, you make me laugh and make things interesting around here. But really, this post sucks.
     
  16. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    That is fair. I'd take him back if he was willing to renegotiate his salary downwards, but I'd still sign a veteran guard or draft someone to compete for the spot.
     
  17. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    How many threads are you going to start on the same subject with the same exact details? And as you've been told before, Ma. Pouncey is NOT a free agent in 2014.
     
  18. jdallen1222

    jdallen1222 Well-Known Member

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    Everything you post now, I read in Charlie's voice. It's like you're yelling at everyone.
     
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  19. LBsFinest

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    if Veldheer or Monroe hit the market, you grab one of them. you sign another starting guard in FA, any one of the Chiefs free agent guards, Schwartz or Asamoah would be a great addition, or Zane Beadles.

    then you take the best tackle available at 19 and play him at RT. and you draft a guard within the next couple rounds, another one late in the draft, and they all compete with Garner/Dallas Thomas for one guard spot while the vet you signed in FA locks down the other guard spot.

    LT - Veldheer/Monroe
    LG - Garner/Dallas Thomas/rookie draft picks
    C - Mike Pouncey
    RG - Asamoah/Schwartz/Beadles
    RT - Tiny Richardson/Kouandjio/La'el Collins
     
  20. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    There is no reason to think either of those two tackles will hit the FA market. There is a much better chance of Albert doing do, and I'd love him to be our addition from KC.

    LT: Albert
    RT: First round pick
    C: Pouncey

    From there I think you can fill the guard spots with either proven veterans who may not be big names or draft picks and still have a solid line.

    Another idea that intrigues me is signing Mack and moving Pouncey to guard.

    LT: First round pick/Resign Mckinney
    RT: Mckinnie/First rounder
    C: Mack
    RG: Pouncey
    LG: Free agent/Draft pick
     
  21. MiamiDudez

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    I think it should be more of a public apology with a slap on the wrist and a pay cut. I mean, you're completely right, he's a very good guard and losing someone like him could be a huge problem.
     
  22. Colmax

    Colmax Well-Known Member

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    Is that Michelle Beadles? I'd let her play on my line any day of the week and twice on Sundays!

    (I don't even know what that means, but I like it!)
     

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