Exactly. Its media driven. Baalke and JH agree far more than they disagree. They play racquet ball every Monday and their admiration for each other is well documented. HC and GMs butt heads from time to time. Both Baalke and JH understand what each person brings to the table. I hope Ross isnt holding his breath banking on JH to leave because it ain't happening.
Rofl..hes what now...2 for 2 ? Yeh..Ill take his dumb ***..come on down Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk
yeah exactly. gamble has already interviewed for gm positions already including jacksonville if i remember right. not a long flight on the same coast for a job that isnt lateral but vertical.
How do you think I feel, I wanted that fu@&er as bad as you, then he went and drafted the Qb I wanted..he's killing me man.
It appears at this time that Philbin is the person who is going to wield the power on the football side of the operations. If this is indeed the case, I just don't know if any of the top GM candidates will be interested in taking the job with the Dolphins. This GM would basically be answering to a head coach who has a losing record over his first two years on the job. The better GM's in the league want say so over who the teams coach is and Ross is once again forcing his next hire to accept the HC and possibly even work for this HC. You would think that Ross might have learned from his experience two years ago, when he was basically left with having to hire Philbin because no better head coaching prospect was interested in coming to a team where Ireland had complete control over all player personnel decisions. I am sure some low level GM prospect will be willing to come to the Dolphins and basically work for Philbin. I just don't think Ross will be able to entice a top tier GM candidate to take the job if he has no decision who the coach of this team will be.
1) Most GMs don't pick the coach. There have been successful GMs both ways. 2) There has been ZERO indication or even speculation the GM will answer to Philbin.
I think the new coach speculation is just for fun and nothing more at this point. To hire Gamble with ANY secretive or underhanded hope to get another coach in a year would be a huge mistake. It would leak, it wold fracture, it would break spirits. Another lost season. Ross, from everything he has showed us to date, would never have had Sherman fired, if firing Philbin is still a possibility. Nor would we be hiring lame duck OCs before we even find a GM. The intention is obviously to marry a great potential GM with Philbin and Aponte. Hiring Harbaugh or Malzahn would entail another bad season next year. There's just no way I can see Ross cutting Philbin loose now, no way. Not saying I like this, just what I think the reality is.
Yet another reason to potentially be high on Tom Gamble. That left tackle I been talkin about all year from Philadelphia, Matt Tobin. I'm pretty sure Gamble knows all about him and might try and trade for him. He knows the Eagles are in a bind as Tobin is a left tackle only and the Eagles are eventually going to want Lane Johnson there when/if they part ways with Jason Peters. ALSO, Tom Gamble has a tremendous appreciation for veterans so don't be surprised if he went straight for Jason Peters instead, which would be fine by me. There's actually quite a bit of talent on the Eagles roster that could be mined. I've been drooling over their depth for two years. Matt Tobin, Bryce Brown, Chris Polk, James Casey, Joe Kruger, Brandon Graham, Phillip Hunt, Jake Knott, Jordan Poyer and Brandon Hughes. Even though he didn't play all year let's not forget Jeremy Maclin, who is a free agent. As are Riley Cooper, Nate Allen and Kurt Coleman. You would think Gamble would have a line on which guys to raid from there. Truth be told he'd also have a fine idea which players to raid on another team that's deep as the ocean, the 49ers. Mario Manningham, Johnathan Goodwin, Tarell Brown, Perrish Cox and Donte Whitner are free agents. They have some depth I like potentially in Kendall Hunter, LaMichael James, Dan Skuta and C.J. Spillman.
GM's may not always pick the HC, but they have to have a good working relation with the head coach. As I stated, I suspect some low level GM type who wants a GM job and is willing to work with a coach that is already here, will be happy to accept the job. I just don't think some of the top tier GM prospects will want to come in and be forced to work with a coach who is 15-17 in his first two years on the job. Perhaps it will work out and since Ireland is no longer here, I'm happy about that. I am certainly willing to wait and see how things work out next year with a new GM and Philbin. I never said that the team can't be better under a GM who is willing to accept Philbin as the teams HC next year. I merely stated that I don't think a GM prospect who is highly thought of around the league will want the job at this time. When the GM is finally hired, we shall see who it is and it will be easier to determine at that time if having Philbin remain the HC did indeed prevent interest from some of these top GM prospects.
Philbin is well respected throughout the league. And I don't see him as a guy who will eventually demand personnel power. Couple that with an owner who spends, is loyal and stays out of the way and that's arguably an ideal scenario. A smart GM would see this as a very good long term situation.
I have no idea why hiring a new HC would mean the Dolphins would have another bad season next year. The fact is that the Chiefs, Chargers, and Eagles all made it to the playoffs under a first year head coach.
I won't argue in regards to Philbin being respected throughout the league. That doesn't mean that he is a good head coach. It only means he is well thoughts of by people around the league. In fact if he was so highly thought of when he was with the Packers, why wasn't he a hot prospect as a head coach in the NFL? I don't think any team but the Dolphins, ever had any real interest in Philbin as a head coach. I have no problem with Philbin getting one more year to show if he is a good HC or not. I just hope that forcing the next GM to accept Philbin as the teams HC next year, doesn't limit the top prospects from having interest in the GM position with the Dolphins.
I went back and reread your previous comment. I first thought you were implying if the Dolphins hired a new coach this year, they would have a bad season next year. That is why I wrote my original comment. I now realize that you were merely stating that hiring a new coach next year would mean that the Dolphins had a bad season in 2014. Sorry about that, my bad.
I disagree. He was considered a hot prospect around the league. I recall interviews in KC and Tampa being reported as well.
Perhaps because I really wanted Fisher, I wasn't aware that he was such a HOT prospect. I had never ever heard of him prior to the Dolphins interviewing him for the job. I hope he ends up being a very good HC for the Dolphins. I certainly have no interest in seeing the team have another season in 2014 in which they finish 500 or below. Right now though, he is what he is. An NFL HC who has a losing record after his first two years on the job. Perhaps after next season, we can celebrate the fact the Dolphins had their first winning season in the past six years. Yet until this team has a winning season with Tannehill as the starting QB and Philbin as the HC, they both remains huge question marks, IMO.
Rent an office and send all the scouts up to work in Philly with him while his dad is in hospice. Get an office like a block from the hospice. This is something we can work around!
If Salma told me that you want to poop on my chest, I'd have to decline DJ, sorry man. She would have to get turned on some other way than watching you poop on me.
Dolphins will be interviewing Marc Ross later this week. http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/01/08/3859020/miami-dolphins-expect-to-conduct.html LB, isn't this your guy?
Depth is the weapon of champions in this league. Top heavy teams fall aside in the crunch, and teams with real depth are left standing. This is what we need in our GM, not necessarily finding the next great superstar, but finding a roster of guys who fill needs and play roles.
It really is unbelievable. We've been stuck with Jeff Ireland for 6 years, and now, we are actually interviewing not only legitimate GM candidates but great GM candidates. This isn't going to be a case of a person getting a job promotion because of who he knows, as was the case when Jeff Ireland got the Dolphins job. These are candidates that are wanted because of their track records. Tom Gamble, Marc Ross, Alonzo Highsmith......it doesn't get much better than that.
yea, I've wanted either him or Gamble for years. Gamble is more well rounded, Ross on the other hand is like a draft expert, youngest director of college scouting at 27 under Andy Reid in Philly, Princeton grad so you know we're dealing with a smart man here, either of these would be knockout hires.
I've been a fan of both TOM's for as long as I can remember, Heckert and Gamble. Met Heckert a few times GAMBLE would be a great selection. Also I want to say the Kubiak or Lazor interviews if either are hired are an immediate upgrades and would be fantastic hires. We are GM-less and already we've already had the best offseason in the last 5 years. I feel reborn as a fan. The forum's 3 stooges don't even bother me anymore.
I love Tom Gamble as a GM candidate, to the extent that an outsider could really be sold or not sold on any of them considering what they really do is so much behind closed doors. But he would have his work cut out for him in Miami. 1. Miami has a QB entering a "make or break" year. This is objectively verifiable. And what it means is your quarterback hasn't proven himself yet, and that's not a big selling point for an incoming GM that didn't pick the guy. 2. Miami has underperforming assets at WR1 (Wallace), LB1 (Ellerbe), LB2 (Wheeler), LB3 (Misi) and S1 (Jones), all of whom have long term contracts (four years), and collectively those five underperforming assets will account for $39.2 million in salary cap commitment per year over the next four years. 3. Miami has one DT asset (you need three). They have two free agents who belong to whichever team (including Miami) decides to pay them. 4. Miami has no CB assets worthy of starting position (you need two). They have one free agent who belongs to whichever team (including Miami) decides to pay him. 5. Miami has an offensive line...MAN. Singular. The unit requires FIVE of them. 6. Miami has a well-rounded DE unit, complete with a superstar. 7. Miami has a good Punter but the Place Kicker is questionable. 8. Miami is in total well positioned, in terms of performance/responsibility/salary quotient, at WR2, WR3, RB2, TE2, OC, DT1, DE1, DE2, DE3, CB3, P and LS. That leaves questions to answer at QB1, QB2, WR1, TE1, RB1, LT, LG, RG, RT, DT2, DT3, LB1, LB2, LB3, CB1, CB2, S1, S2 and PK.
Interviewing is one thing, getting one of the top name GM prospects to actually take the job is much more difficult. Ross interview Jim Harbaugh, and Jeff Fisher for the head coaching job and neither of them wanted to take the job. He also tried to sign Peyton Manning as the teams QB and had no success there either. I hope this time he is successful in hiring a quality GM for this team. I will just believe it, when it actually happens. Until then, it is all just speculation regarding the interest any of the top named GM prospects might have in the GM opening with the Dolphins.
You realize that harbaugh and Fisher and even Peyton used us as leverage for deals toward their real destinations right? None of them had any intention of coming here. (I will thank the stars every single night for fishstache not coming here.. Saint Louis must be thrilled). That is night and day different from offering most of these candidates what would be a huge promotion more so than a lateral move. Not only that, there aren't AS many desirable gm openings in the first place. I wish people would stop pretending every candidate would be reluctant to be promoted to gm of an up and coming team with a ton of pieces in place.
Wow, someone who graduated from one of my rival highschools is going to interview with the Miami Dolphins.
