What do you think about Gary Kubiak for Dolphins OC?

He made Matt Schaub look somewhat competent for years... That's impressive.

 

If you notice some of the key words and phrases in that description it's because some of us have been clamoring for them all season while Sherman was running something completely opposite.

"Moving pocket to offset the speed of the modern pass rush"..." Roll outs"...bootlegs"

And I do believe Ryan has more talent than shaub..

And John Elway thinks he's a great coach..

I don't want him as a head coach, I don't think he has what it takes in that dept, but for our offensive coordinator mos def.

 

Kubiak would be great. Lots of people have mini strokes and are just fine after.

My brother had a stroke while bowling when he was 29 years old. He was blind for a few days and then he was fine and never had another issue.

 

Gary kubiak could work wonders for Ryan Tannehill and our offense in whole. With Gary being the OC, we would probably have to revamp the RB's since I don't think Daniel Thomas or Lamar Miller will fit his scheme to well. He likes runners with patience to wait for the hole to open up instead of just plow through. Look at Arian Fosters patience, I can't see that with DT or LM.

 

Kubiak could be on Miami's radar but I highly doubt we are on his.

 

Why?

If he can't get a HC job, he'd be coming into an amazing situation here already having a QB. So he could either turn around this offense which would put him back in HC contention or if Philbin fails he may have a leg up on the HC here.

 

It's all coming together as I had planned! (insert evil laughing and rubbing together of hands here)

 

I think he'd be great, I heard Mike Shanahan had some of his best offensive years with Gary Kubiak as OC. If we can't get him Rick Dennison could be another choice.

 

He's still getting paid for another year as is I believe. With the health scare he could take a year off and be a top HC candidate next year. I don't see the incentive for him to come in as O.C. and risk that.

 

I don't see him coming to be an OC for a head coach than he is way more qualified and proven than.

 

I'd prefer Kyle Shanahan, Ben McAdoo, and Bill Lazor. They are younger, less set in their ways, more vertically oriented in their passing concepts, and are more willing to spread the field out and use less two back stuff.

 

Really?

6-10
8-8
8-8
9-7
6-10

That is his record for his first five years in the league, and overall, Gary has won 48.8% of the games he has coached. Exactly how is he more qualified?

 

On the other hand, if he comes here and we bomb out next season, he's got even more stains on his shirt furthering his quest to get back the HC ranks ??

 

I think Kubs would be a big upgrade over Sherman at OC that's for sure. I wouldn't complain if that's who we got.

 

I highly doubt Turner is still here after we get a new OC. Actually, I believe a few more will be sent packing soon after we hire an OC.

 

I'd like Kubiak. I think he's a good offensive coordinator, and what he does would fit the talent, and Tannehill especially very well.

I had three offensive coordinator prospects I'd like if Sherman got fired- Kubiak, Lazor, and Shanahan Jr. I'm not sure what order I'd put them in at this point, but I think I very much prefer the guys who will do the "new" stuff rather than Kubiak and doubling down on what the team does with McAdoo.

 

Kubiak is pretty well at Norv Turner status. If this team does poorly I don't think his career prospects change a lot, he will be able to find an OC job somewhere.

 

Gary Kubiak's resume is production.

Up until this year, when the wheels completely fell off for the Texans, he has consistently managed to get great production out of whatever he had to work with. You give him any running back off the scrap heap, and he will get you 1200 yards out of the guy. You give him any quarterback -- whether it's a Hall of Famer like John Elway or a scrub like Jake Plummer, and he will get you more yards per attempt, more touchdowns, and fewer interceptions.

The Dolphins would be incredibly fortunate to land Kubiak.

 

I agree completely, but he interviewed for the Lions HC job. I think he has better options available.

 

I think with OCs its a real crap shoot if you go the route of an up and comer.

For example just because an Eagles assistant works within the offense doesn't mean he has the ability to implement that offense effectively elsewhere. So you're looking at a lot of factors aside from experience in a certain system.

With an experienced coach you may losr some innovation, but it does reduce the risk. I'm not opposed to Kubiak.

 

I would love to have Kubiak. His offense speaks for itself and Tanny would be great in it

Kubiak as OC raises some questions though. How long would he want to stay? Will it be a Philbin/Kubiak offense or a Kubiak offense? A Kubiak offense seems like it would take more than one off season to get down

 

Right. But like Maynard just points out. It may take more then an off season to get Kubiaks offense down. Then how long will he be here? One and done? Then we all the sudden start over with another system?

The up and comers hopefully come in, establish a system, remain with the team for a more then a couple years, and let the players learn the system. Also let the coaches under them learn the system, so when someone at some point(hopefully he's doing a good enough job) poaches our OC. That may be able to promote from within.

 

This will be a huge step up from sherman if they can land him.

 

Gary Kubiak and Mike Sherman run very, very similar systems in terms of terminology, as I understand it. The key difference is that Gary Kubiak is actually good. I think it would be a great fit if Mike can convince him to take the job.

I don't think Gary will get another head coaching opportunity. He's really great at running an offense, but things went pretty bad in Houston and I think his health will scare owners away from hiring him.

 

I'd have been fine with the hire till you raised this point. Now I don't want him unless Lazor or Shannahan don't get hired.

 

Well how long it will take to learn is entirely speculation on our part. His offense isn't that different from what we currently run, it just has more QB motion and is more vertically oriented as far as I understand.


It seens like Tannehill may take longer to learn an entirely new offense than a similar but expanded one. I can't really tell you though how long iy will or won't take.

I'm not opposed to hiring s young coach. I don't really care so long as he has a solid background and we don't get someone in over his head. Thst would be thr worst case scenario.
It seems to me like it may take Tannehill long

 

Really hope you're not saying Foster is one of those lol He's carried that offense a lot more than Kubiak.

 

I would love Kubiak....but the only real downside is if we did get him, we would only have him for 2 years at the most. He would be hired as a HC elsewhere soon

 

Only because the NFL tends to recycle mediocre head coaches instead of going with new blood.

It's interesting. Do you know when Houston had their most productive offense on a points per drive basis? 2007.

Go look up who was the offensive coordinator in Houston that year. The Texans averaged 2.2 points per drive that season.

 

Think we can get that guy?

 

Sherman was Kubiak's Assistant HC in 2006 then his OC in 2007. I'd say the offenses are pretty similar.

 

I think to an extent Kubiak might be at a disadvantage because he differs from Philbin on some fundamentals. All of the other interviews are offenses I think are a bit better fit with the shotgun, spread, hurry up game.

 

Maybe terminology-wise. I'd say they are opposite branches of the same tree

 

If its more vertically oriented its a bad fit with a guy who struggles to put the right length on his vertical throws.