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What is not clear???

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Sethdaddy8, Jan 9, 2014.

  1. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Ross just released a statement that the GM will have "autonomous control of the 53 man roster." The GM "will answer to him." The GM must "put team first, have integrity, and work well with Coach Philbin."

    From the Dolphins twitter feed.

    Again, what's the confusion about? What is the "power structure" nonsense about? What is this "set up to fail" nonsense about? Seems simple...and typical/ideal to me.


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  2. finsincebirth

    finsincebirth Well-Known Member

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    Did he literally just release it? If so, good. Hopefully it'll clear things up for some people. However it may still be a question of does Aponte answer to the GM. For instance if the GM wants a player and issues a get it done order can she tell him no? Full autonomous control sounds like that wouldn't be the case, but can't say for certain.
     
  3. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    Probably to stop the media feeding frenzy over the supposed FO drama....
     
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  4. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    Well, if this was "just released" and the confusion occurred prior to it being released, then what's not to understand about the confusion?
     
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  5. Die_Nasty

    Die_Nasty Well-Known Member

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    Don't worry, Armando will keep on with his drama..
     
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  6. finsincebirth

    finsincebirth Well-Known Member

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    This is bigger IMO

    YAY the sky isn't falling.
     
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  7. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Why are we confused by fabricated horse **** to begin with?

    Autonomous control of the 53 man roster. Answers only to Ross.


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  8. Chad Muska

    Chad Muska Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Good news. Hope this is the end of the speculation.

    Interviews starting tomorrow. We had a list of names of people being interviewed, and for now I haven't seen Tom Gamble, Marc Ross or Alonzo Highsmith on any of those. I wonder if it is because Ross does not plan to interview them or they simply have not been contacted yet. Also possible that not all the candidates names have been made public yet.
     
  9. finsincebirth

    finsincebirth Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure I saw they asked permission for Ross, and possibly Highsmith
     
  10. finsincebirth

    finsincebirth Well-Known Member

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    ...
     
  11. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    From the Miami Dolphins website:

    http://www.miamidolphins.com/news/p...r-Search/4f5df8df-76d3-438e-b199-1f777236987a

     
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  12. Die_Nasty

    Die_Nasty Well-Known Member

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    Those were directed at Armando's continuous negativity imo
     
  13. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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  14. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I encourage all of us, while these searches continue, to be skeptical of the following reporters: Armando, Omar, Cole, LaConfra, Florio, Beasley, Mort and any national guy who refers to any of the local guys mentioned. These guys are either consistently wrong (Mort, Kelly), seriously compromised in the integrity department (Armando, Cole, LaConfra, Florio) or appears to have a personal issue with someone on the team (Beasley). If the news comes from any of their Twitter accounts, be extra skeptical.

    Guys who are trustworthy, Darlington, Volin, James Walker, sometimes Hyde & Barry Jackson and any national guy NOT referring to the above guys.

    Oh and our very own Section 126. His reports are pretty trustworthy....except when he tells you which reporters are good.
     
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  15. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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  16. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    A bunch of reporters fabricating stories to sell more advertising, business as usual for them.


    We should be used to this after Martin-Incognito saga. After the media created a story, the public outrage ensued. Of course when FACTS came out, we haven't really heard much about it since.
     
  17. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    ...and after the coaching search.
    ...and after the QB search.
    ...and after the Starks Middle Finger.
    ...and after the time in between the end of the season and Sherman being fired.
    ...and after the time Sherman was fired and Ireland was fired.
     
  18. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    Armando in particular should write a soap opera, he does have the talent...
     
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  19. bran

    bran Senior Member

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    darlington is one of the few people that know their elbow from their *******.
     
  20. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    In a way though, Ross brought this on himself. If he knew how to run his franchise better, statements like this wouldn't be necessary, ya know?

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  21. WhiteIbanez

    WhiteIbanez Megamediocremaniacal

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    Uh Oh.
    I'm sensing we are about to hire a puppet as a GM.
     
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  22. finsincebirth

    finsincebirth Well-Known Member

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    What exactly makes you think that?
     
  23. Sumlit

    Sumlit Well-Known Member

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    Could be, but it also could have been avoided if some exercised a little more journalistic integrity.
     
  24. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    In a way Ross inherited this mess and is still learning and there's no shame in that.
     
  25. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    How was it fabricated horse****? Our last GM didn't have the power to hire or fire coaches or Aponte; however, Aponte was promoted and given enough power to be involved in the HC search and selection of Philbin even though Mike McCoy was reported to be Ireland's guy [to the point that McCoy believed he was getting the job]. Before that, Ross employed a czar who held all the power. It's not horse**** that Aponte aligned herself with Philbin, which is a power move and can be viewed as concerning by potential GMs. It's not horse**** that Ross just attempted to strip our recent GM of some or all of his personnel power and hire someone else, perhaps a czar, to assume those responsibilities.
     
  26. LBsFinest

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    Ross sure has a ton of faith in a coach that's literally proven nothing.
     
  27. LBsFinest

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    GM Candidate: "One question Mr. Ross...will I have the authority to make a change at head coach after a year?"

    Ross: "No, Joe Philbin will be my call and my call only."

    GM candidate: "Okay, well thank you Mr. Ross for your time and consideration, but I think I'll pass."

    wash, rinse, repeat until we get to the 6th or 7th guy on our owner's wishlist.

    hopefully this won't be the case.
     
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  28. vt_dolfan

    vt_dolfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Sometimes..conviction is a powerful thing. For what ever reason..Ross has a conviction in Philbin. All we as fans can do..is support him in that conviction as hope that he is right.

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  29. Triggercut

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    How many teams have a GM that can fire the coach?

    Do you think the GM will fire the coach on a whim? How about Ross, will he fire the coach just for the heck of it, has he shown a history of firing people willy-nilly?
     
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  30. fin13

    fin13 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If I make **** up about you or what is going on in your home, did you bring this on you or am I just ****ing you over.
    Ross took his time to make his decision, have you ever fire anyone, cause if you did I hope you took your time to make sure they needed to go.
     
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  31. WhiteIbanez

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    tyranny :wink2:
     
  32. fin13

    fin13 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Are you Mando or do you make **** up like he does
     
  33. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    This myth that GM's have the power to fire the head coach needs to be quelled and should have already been quelled.

    No GM in this league can fire the head coach without the owner's approval.

    Do some of you seriously think Trent Baalke can fire Jim Harbaugh because of their power struggle? No, because that call is on Jed York, not Trent Baalke.

    Ozzie Newsome can't fire John Harbaugh if he wanted to. Only Steve Biscotti has that power.

    Phil Emery couldn't fire Lovie Smith when he first came in. Dave Gettleman couldn't fire Ron Rivera. John Idzik couldn't fire Rex Ryan.

    AJ Smith couldn't fire Norv Turner in San Diego. Dean Spanos fired them both. Even Bill Polian said on NFL Radio yesterday that most GM's have a list of coaches that changes every 6 months or so that they will submit to ownership if a coaching change needs to be made. Even Bill Polian couldn't unilaterally fire the head coach.

    The folks on here that continue to think this will be a sticking point have no idea how this league is run and no idea of the power structure each NFL team has.
     
  34. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    Ross is always good for indirect shots at the former employee.
     
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  35. gafinfan

    gafinfan gunner Club Member

    Ross to former candidate has he walks out the door .... Good luck in finding an owner who will give you that much power unless you want to pony up enough $$$$$ to buy into the pie rather than being the cherry on top.
     
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  36. KB21

    KB21 Almost Never Wrong Club Member

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    It was that obvious to you huh?

    "A person of integrity that puts the organization first" is a clear shot at the self preservationist Jeff Ireland.
     
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  37. Rouk

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    im confused with the Regardless of reporting structure line what does that even mean
     
  38. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Except in New England. That guy owns Bellichick's lilly white ***.
     
  39. Unlucky 13

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    That may be true, but not one of those guys listed ever gives us anything about the team until after its happened, or until multiple other sources have said it, usually days if not weeks earlier. Walker, in particular, is extremely weak. He's supposed to cover the whole AFC East, and is based in Miami, but unless its about the Patriots or Jets, all of his work is just a luke warm rehash of someone else's article written earlier. His content is also much more boring and unoriginal than many of the other NFL bloggers at ESPN.

    Volin doesn't even cover the team anymore! He's a New England writer.
     
  40. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    I've fired people before, and it didn't take me 6 ****ing years.

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