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Bill Lazor interviewing for OC position today in Miami

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Phins_Fan_87, Jan 8, 2014.

  1. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    If we interview all 4 of those guys, and then end up just promoting O'Keefe, I for one am going to be mighty disappointed. It will take on the air of having just been a dog and pony show from my perspective.
     
  2. VanDolPhan

    VanDolPhan Club member Club Member

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    To those asking about Zac Taylor..........he is in no way safe. They'll bring in an OC and then figure out the rest of the offensive staff based on who the OC knows he can get and what he's looking to run.
     
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  3. Lee2000

    Lee2000 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Is it that bad in Miami?
     
  4. rafael

    rafael Well-Known Member

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    Any rumors on how the interview went?
     
  5. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I was being facetious. I don't know what's going to happen.
     
  6. jw3102

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    I certainly hope that is the case. Because if the new OC has to work with the present offensive coaching staff, he would be set up for failure immediately. Hopefully Philbin will let the next OC bring in his own staff, just as he let Sherman bring in his family members to coach on the offensive side of the ball.
     
  7. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Agreed but that would mean not much has changed from a Dolphins perspective - same ol same ol. It would also mean the Dolphins are not as coveted as some think.

    Aside from that - based on other comments above …

    I don't get the fear of McAdoo. Green Bay has a very good running game.

    It really comes down to better OL blocking and RBs that are more instinctive for Miami to have a running game. The reality is both RB's are not very instinctive. It's not a coach issue as much as it is a failure in running and blocking. That may partly be an OL coaching issue; but not a "system" issue.

    Of course, Philly has a good running game. But they also have LeSean McCoy and a better OL. I do like what Lazor has done with the QB there - but, then again, Foles may just be a guy who has the "it" factor and may be another Brady ultimately.

    I hope we do sign a guy like Lazor however as I think he will bring some great ideas and get the offense more up-tempo.
     
  8. finwin

    finwin Active Member

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    Foles is not that good. He throws the ball away or throws short and gets YAC. His stats are the result of an outstanding run game and taking zero chances.
     
  9. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    He throws the ball short? How about he makes the correct read and gets the ball out before pressure gets to him. And he has had a fantastic deep ball all year. So no, he doesn't get his yards from just throwing short and his WRs getting YAC.
     
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  10. finwin

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    http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/passingYards

    Ya. 5.9 YPA a real go getter. Beaten by a QB that had a 53% completion rate. Foles is all about his statistics. He and Wilson cannot put a team on their shoulders like Tannehill, Kappernick, Luck or Romo. You'll see next year.
     
  11. Bpk

    Bpk Premium Member Luxury Box

    WILSON can't put a team on his shoulders?!?

    You should get to the nearest emerg room as soon as possible. Before the brain hemorrhaging gets worse.

    Please… HURRY!

    (Just kidding. I'm not sold on Foles either. Wilson looked good leading the Seahawks to the playoffs)
     
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  12. finwin

    finwin Active Member

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    Russell Wilson has not had to prove a damn thing with that Running game and Defense. Seattle has not had to play from behind all year.
     
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  13. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Texans game, no?

    Damn Tapatalk like button.

    Sent from my GT-P3110 using Tapatalk
     
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  15. Nappy Roots

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    Texas game and the Bucs game? lol. Second time today he has tried to defuse another young QBs accomplishments....
     
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  16. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    HEY! GREAT LINK!

    Not....you are looking at playoff stats...yea one game....BTW, that short passer only, led the NFL in YPA at 9.12....

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/yardsPerPassAttempt/seasontype/2


    Also, that 9.12 YPA is only the 3rd time a QB has been over 9 YPA in the past 10 years. One season by Peyton Manning and one season by Aaron Rodgers....yea, a real check down artist huh?
     
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  17. Da 'Fins

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    Just really don't see this as an essential difference. Green Bay has long had a very balanced attack and last season had fewer passes per game and more rushing attempts per game than the Redskins or Texans.

    It comes down to what is working and what the personnel is. And, that changes every year. No doubt Kubiak and Shanahan like to run the ball but they will abandon it if it isn't working. Green Bay is a bit more pass oriented but they've had two all-time great QBs since the early 90's.

    It really comes down to what is working and personnel that is there - as well as what is going on defensively.

    There are two different offenses, of course.

    More broadly, I don't see how those who don't like McAdoo have any basis for that. You can't judge McAdoo on the basis of Philbin/Sherman's offense in Miami (which faltered for several different reasons). McAdoo comes from a great system that has worked well for a few years.

    I also like guys who have worked with good QBs (which is another misnomer thrown out on these boards). A guy who has worked with a great QB can bring all sorts of knowledge and expertise to RT in terms of work ethic, decision-making, etc. because he's seen it happen.

    That said, I would love for us to get a Lazor because I do like that offense up there. But, would be very happy with McAdoo.

    Any rumors out there on the interview?
     
  18. Da 'Fins

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    The denigration of Foles and Wilson is utter nonsense. Stats are against it and the eye-test is against it. They both make great plays and run their offenses effectively. Yes, they do have talent at RB to go with that but so did Joe Montana. So have any number of other great QBs.

    Wilson hasn't had great talent at the WR position. Foles is decent but hasn't been great either. Both are different types but Wilson is a great improvisor and just makes big plays. Foles is much more a classic QB but he did a great job in being deceptive. He looked off more DBs in single games than RT did for the year. Whether that is a product of bad OC/QB coaching is another question, but that's the reality. I'm not denigrating RT - but he has a long way to go to where he plays as effectively as Foles did this year. He may be just as good.
     
  19. ckparrothead

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    It would appear, according to a report that the Dolphins are "zeroing in" on Gary Kubiak, Kyle Shanahan and Ben McAdoo, that essentially Bill Lazor has been specifically precluded from final consideration.

    So much for that. Ah well.
     
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  20. heylookatme

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    Probably not the best example considering how that game went down.
     
  21. Disgustipate

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    I wouldn't characterize Green Bay as a pass-wacky, unbalanced offense, but they're more along the lines of current NFL orthodoxy. This year was a bit different for them because of Aaron Rodgers injury and a relatively strong rookie back.

    The Redskins and Texans have run the ball more than passed within the last couple years, and their offensive systems are inherently tied to a run play or series of run plays. That's not really true with the Packers.
     
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  22. Alex44

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    Also consider that both Washington and Houston played from behind almost every game. Thst will bribg your rush attempts fown no matter how good you are at it.
     
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  23. Colmax

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    Looks like Lazor may be headed to Detroit.

    Link: HERE
     

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