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We are going no where without a QB under center

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by 2socks, Jan 14, 2014.

  1. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    We have that QB in Ryan Tannehill

    Now we have to figure out how to develop him with the coaching staff we have

    Like last season, quarterback gurus are in high demand, from Jim Caldwell in the Motor City to Ken Whisenhunt in Rocky Top. In our nation's capital, Robert Griffin III has been paired with Jay Gruden while Tom Brady's former tutor, Bill O'Brien, has been tasked with fixing Houston's quarterback mess.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000313124/article/qb-gurus-in-high-demand-for-coaching-openings
     
  2. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    you lost credibility with Jim Caldwell. but I do agree that we need a better QB coach.
     
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  3. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Didn't write it. Just sharing.
     
  4. Ohio Fanatic

    Ohio Fanatic Twuaddle or bust Club Member

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    you're right, my bad. give you back full credit for your sig alone
     
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  5. padre31

    padre31 Premium Member Luxury Box

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    Sort of, think a lot of our issues centered on poor scheme fits on the offensive line and Tannehill lack of adaptability to Wallace.

    Personally, I thought Gilbride did a helluva a job with Eli Manning.
     
  6. Limbo

    Limbo Mad Stillz

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    Gilbride has always been underrated and ended up as a scapegoat so many times. But I'd think he's done coaching.
     
  7. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    When you write stuff around the article, that is your opinion. If you feel differently, add it and people won't keep on thinking it is your opinion.
     
  8. bbqpitlover

    bbqpitlover Well-Known Member

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    Im not convinced Tannehill is that QB
     
  9. MAFishFan

    MAFishFan Team Tannehill

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    Gonna be a long off season.
     
  10. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    all offseason are long
     
  11. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I like Tanny.
     
  12. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Me neither, but on the other hand, I'm not convinced he isn't.
     
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  13. hazed819

    hazed819 Well-Known Member

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    Lots of QB's in the draft this year, if one happens to fall into our lap in the 3rd or 4th I'd like to think a new GM and OC would take em as a security blanket/project.
     
  14. hazed819

    hazed819 Well-Known Member

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    His wounded ducks 30+ passes make me cringe
     
  15. FinNasty

    FinNasty Alabama don’t want this... Staff Member Club Member

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    Those aren't wounded ducks... that's timing. 2 totally different things...

    A lot of the "deep balls" to Wallace were passes that were 60+ yards in the air. And even then they weren't ducks... just poorly timed passes where the location/placement was off. He over threw Wallace almost as much as he under threw him. Arm strength wasn't the issue...
     
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  16. Dol-Fan Dupree

    Dol-Fan Dupree Tank? Who is Tank? I am Guy Incognito.

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    What are you talking about? He rarely throws ducks.
     
  17. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    The only wounded duck anyone saw last year for Miami was Dion Jordan.


    Tip your bartenders and waitresses...
     
  18. MikeHoncho

    MikeHoncho -=| Censored |=-

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    Ba-dum Tssssssss!
     
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  19. jw3102

    jw3102 season ticket holder

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    I agree. Tannehill may be the answer at the QB position but he needs to prove it next year. He needs to be more consistent and he also needs to learn to throw a better deep ball. Hopefully with a better OL and better RB's, along with a new OC, Tannehill can finally step up and show he is the right QB for the job. If he doesn't take a big step forward next year, that will probably cost Philbin his job as the head coach and the new GM will be looking for a new QB in the 2015 draft.
     
  20. Nappy Roots

    Nappy Roots Well-Known Member

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    Yup. This is my position as well.
     
  21. Kud_II

    Kud_II Realist Division

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    Ryan Tannehill had by far the best season of any quarterback than anyone since Marino, in only his second year! Have some faith, he will continue to develop. Kid is smart.
     
  22. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    I think RT needs to drastically prove on 2 things, the long ball and pocket presence. I'm not sure how improving pocket presence works. Not sure that can be coached. But if he had a better longball, he and Wallace would be in the pro-bowl. That, I hope he works on and can improve.
     
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  23. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    getting him a pocket to have presence in would help.
     
  24. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I think his pocket presence was better in the second half of he season. He also held on to the ball much better.
    Amen.
     
  25. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    10 - 4

    just assumed people's would read the article know those were not my words
     
  26. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    How many QBs have ever posted his kind of numbers after being sacked 58 times? How many finished the full season, minus 1 drive? I could be wrong, but I don't think it's very common at all.

    This kid can not be rattled...ice cold. Of his many attributes I like, that one's my favorite.

    Edit: Marino's highest sack year was 1992, 28 sacks (less than half of Tanny's), a year in which he was slightly higher in passer rating (85), had only a few hundred more yards, and a slightly lower completion % than Tannehill this year. Just to put it in Dolphins context.
     
  27. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Hard to sack Marino. Only held the ball 2.3 seconds on average
     
  28. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    Hard to sack Marino. Only held the ball 2.3 seconds on average
     
  29. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    Imagine Tanny with that time.
     
  30. Griese's Glasses

    Griese's Glasses Well-Known Member

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    You couldn't ask for a better base to build off than Ryan in today's NFL. He has arm, he has legs (not even talking about Lauren), guy's got a brain in there too. He is humble, professional, modest and quiet. Just a good guy from an image standpoint.

    Seriously though? He was killed 58 times at the line this year and posted....3900 yds and 24 TD for 17 INTs? Huge improvement over last year and that is while losing Long and Reggie Bush....holy cow. What more does this kid have to do? Throw to himself for the TD?
     
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  31. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    He can get there with a line and a good coach to help him develop.

    He just hasn't been able to learn that part of his game yet. Hard to do that when you got guys draped all over you trying to kill you
     
  32. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    might be next. I wouldn't put it past him to try. kids got heart!!
     
  33. MrClean

    MrClean Inglourious Basterd Club Member

    Did you time him yourself? If not, what is the source of this number?
     
  34. fin13

    fin13 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Based on what
     
  35. rafael

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    I think the questions arise from his reluctance to use his physical ability to extend plays. People see players like Wilson succeed behind worse OL protection and wonder why RT didn't have as much success(obviously there were other factors there for Wilson, but fans don't usually see all that). Personally I'm a huge RT fan and think that a huge part of that has been the coaching he received not only in the pros but in college as well. I think that at this point Sherman was a progress stopper for RT. I expect/hope that Lazor will help develop that part of RT's game. Foles is a less athletic QB and ran very little in college (IIRC), but ran much more than RT in his first year in the pros.
     
  36. 2socks

    2socks Rebuilding Since 1973

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    It goes back to coaching. If you have a suspect line, you coach the kid up to get rid of the ball quick. We run short routes, quick read's etc. Plus Tanne is an athlete. 1, 2 ,3 read....run. That's it - simple. Would have definitely masked our atrocious line.
     
  37. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    Did you see the last 2 games?
     
  38. LiferYank

    LiferYank New Member

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    Name me a QB who plays well while spending the game eating grass.
     
  39. Serpico Jones

    Serpico Jones Well-Known Member

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    He didn't get sacked against the Jets so do you have any other excuses?
     
  40. LiferYank

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    So sacks are the only time a QB is under pressure or takes a hit? Try again.
     

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