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A reason for patience.....

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Fin D, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    I know many are going to read the title of this thread and think, "I've been patient for decades and all this team has done is kick me in the balls....blah, blah, balh!!!!!"

    I'm asking for patience in regards to the flurry of news, tweets and rumors about our various GM & OC searches. As you all know, I've been banging the drum for not excepting wholesale info you get from the media. Besides the fact that many of the local guys are agenda driven (and that agenda is rarely the truth) you also have to understand how information can be misconstrued depending on the prism you're viewing it through.

    For example, most of us have heard of and seen the movie Mrs. Doubtfire. It was lighthearted family comedy. There was nothing sinister or scary about that movie the way it was shown.

    Now watch this:
    [video=youtube_share;1Ckv_Dz-Sio]http://youtu.be/1Ckv_Dz-Sio[/video]

    Information, even video, can be cut and edited to portray virtually anything. Whether it be a harmless comedy or even Hardknocks footage. Information can be edited and portrayed into virtually anything as well. Isn't it possible we never offered jobs to Lazor or McAdoo and therefore they didn't choose another team over us? Of course its possible, in fact, its likely as there was no reports they were offered anything by us. Of course listening to some of the commentary its spun that we were begging them to work for us and they laughed us off and went somewhere else.

    This franchise may well be headed to another oblivion, it may not, but lets make that call based on results we can verify not conjecture....it will make us happier in the long run.
     
  2. adamprez2003

    adamprez2003 Senior Member

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    Don't care about the OC. Only care about the GM. So far no gripes w me on that end but we will see what the final outcome is. At least we pursued gamble and we have a couple more candidates that would be upgrades. We're fishing in the right spot now its time to reel one in
     
  3. the 23rd

    the 23rd a.k.a. Rio

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    1) apparently a job was offered to Lazor> Dolphins hire Eagles quarterback coach Bill Lazor as their new OC
    2) I read McAdoo was scheduled to interview last because he was the probable choice of Philbin to fill the position

    having said that, I agree with you in principle. what is missing is patience & consistency within the franchise.
     
  4. Clark Kent

    Clark Kent Fighter of the Nightman

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    Mrs. Doubtfire as a horror film would be epicly creepy. They totally missed the boat on that concept...
     
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  5. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    The problem is that patience isn't a virtue or a trait you're born with, it's a perfected skill.

    One that most people don't bother to learn.
     
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  6. MIASportsFan

    MIASportsFan New Member

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    Given he has never called a play in an NFL game I may be deluding myself here, but I feel pretty optimistic about the Lazor hire. I think he can really help Tannehill take the next step and bring some creativity to the offense.

    Hire a good GM candidate like Xanders and the future looks bright.
     
  7. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    well sherman had plenty of playcalling experience and look what that got us. IMO a guy whose never called plays is probably far more inclined to be more sporadic and creative.
     
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  8. Phoenician Fan

    Phoenician Fan Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I think it is more about the coach being intimately acquainted with what his players can actually execute against the defense they are facing, than having a lot of practice or experience at play calling.
     
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  9. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    I don't have a patience problem, I have a problem with bad decisions. And a chain of bad decisions will make me impatient for heads to roll. This is one of them by Philbin and it's not the first one.
     
  10. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Thee...Ohio State University
    You sure do lots of ASSuming.
     
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  11. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    patience is part of the reason this franchise has sucked for the last decade. Ross was too patient with Sparano and Ireland.
     
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  12. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Its like I'm a freaking oracle.

    First line of my OP:
    Which is why I clarified to this:
    But of course you can't be bothered to read something before reacting. Shocking.
     
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  13. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Not an attack on you but, when were you or have you ever been a happy dolphin fan? Just give me a Time frame...Shula,Johnson,Wanny,Saban,Cameron,Sparano,Philbin? This team we follow is supposed to bring us some joy,Where or when was that passing glimmer of joy?
     
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  14. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The only thing I can verify is that this HC has done nothing to make me feel good about the direction of the team.
    I can verify that he went 8-8 with a roster capable of being better.
    I can verify that the offensive side on the football has gotten worse each year under his term.
    I can verify that he does a poor job of managing a football game, down and distance, situation.
    I can verify the owner has told him that he controls the coaching aspect of the team.

    I'm just not a fan of Joe Philbin. That's why I'm not positive about the direction of the team.

    I like Bill Lazor. My fear? Is he actually does a decent job, but an 8-8 team will lend itself, to a new staff change and he'll be gone.
    I like a lot of different players on the teams, and even a few other coaches - Rizzi & Rodgers specifically.

    For me, show me, then I'll be back. It's never been a stance I've had, but I've had it. I've lost all faith in the people who are making decisions.
    Sorry that it's so pessimistic, but it is what it is.
     
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  15. Fin D

    Fin D Sigh

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    Shocking, another one that can't read.

    Its almost as if I intentionally worded it this way to prove a point or something.
     
  16. PhinFan1968

    PhinFan1968 To 2020, and BEYOND! Club Member

    And doesn't have years of tape for defenses to study. Wildcard.
     
  17. Hobiesailor

    Hobiesailor Season Ticket Holder Club Member

    Not sure I by that one, considering we were one of the better teams at the end of halves scoring points and 7-8 of coaches challenges. When he went for it on 4th down, those were good calls, the play calling and execution is a different matter. It is very far from verified that he is poor managing a football game.
     
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  18. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    ^mediocriphan
     
  19. rdhstlr23

    rdhstlr23 Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    You're right. I think we did a great job managing timeouts & challenges. He was fantastic there.

    I'm talking about the decision to allow Caleb Sturgis to kick FG's in crap weather (Buffalo, Pittsburgh).
    I thought he should have challenged a play before the half against Cincy that allowed them to go down and score. Instead we went into the half, with all our timeouts. It was a play that could have been overturned.

    You're right about the 4th down calls. I thought they were all good calls and the right decision. The play calls were less desirable and the execution was worse.

    But does losing to an inferior talented team, with a QB that had been there for a week, coming off your bye, at home, and is a division opponent do anything (Bills Week 7)? To me it does. The fact we lost two games at the end of our season that we should have one to get in, makes it worse.

    Then he defended his OC and wanted to keep him when it was clear the offense regressed and was worse than before.

    I don't think Joe Phibin is a good coach. That's just me.
     
  20. finyank13

    finyank13 Reality Check

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    Fin D,

    Clean out your inbox, I am trying to message you.....
     
  21. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Thats right....mediocriphan.....very articulate. I can see you complaining about us winning a Super Bowl because you did not like the way we won. I have seen this team win Super Bowls...I have seen them be one of the better teams in the league....Seen them be terrible. I still enjoy the whole process of being a fan of this team for 40 yrs. The question I asked you was when are you or will you ever be happy... mediocriphan...wow that was really lame
     
  22. Patssuck

    Patssuck Well-Known Member

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    The guy is a troll. Just ignore him.
     
  23. Patssuck

    Patssuck Well-Known Member

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    What is a mediocriphan?
     
  24. Sethdaddy8

    Sethdaddy8 Well-Known Member

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    Ugh...you're really on my ****list today. I worked at a second rate movie theatre in high school. It wasn't a megaplex like they have today. It was weird and small. They had this movie showing for 2 ****ing months!!! I've seen this movie more times than Don Shula has won football games. And Joy Luck Club is a close second. F U for the **** memories!!!
     
  25. Claymore95

    Claymore95 Working on it... Club Member

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    It's also a skill that's easy to let slip, I know as I've done it often, so it needs to be gently nudged occasionally.
     
  26. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    Closer to sharpened like an axe, imo.
     
  27. LI phinfan

    LI phinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    I guess in his world,its people who settle for the phins being mediocre. He seems only to bask in negativity.
     
  28. MAFishFan

    MAFishFan Team Tannehill

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    Stop.Talking.Logic.
     
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