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Our old pal Davone Bess posts a pic smoking marijuana, [Updates] more issues

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by King Felix, Dec 22, 2013.

  1. slickj101

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    Pills like that can eat away at the lining in your stomach. Google is your friend.
     
  2. ckparrothead

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    I mean, I get it. He makes a lot of money. If he loses his job for poor performance and no longer makes that money, it's not like I'll cry for the man. I never had any sympathy for Jeff Ireland even when people would try and bring up that we're actively hoping to see the man lose his employment and his family's source of income. The guy made millions to do a job poorly.

    I'm just saying there are a few red flags involved in this particular case and when we fast forward a week or couple of weeks I think a lot of people are going to be looking back and saying maybe I should have been a little more sympathetic because now I feel like a total dick.
     
  3. slickj101

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    Money def does solve some problems but more than that, it can buy you more freedom than those without it.
     
  4. SICK

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    He did good deeds on a football field, and caught some first downs. Good job. The charity work? Thats great, seriously it is, but the least he can do is visit a hospital, school, jail etc to let some of those sick, hurt, poor, or incarsinated people meet someone they "love" or is a fan of. Meanwhile, people making 6 bucks an hour are doing the same thing every day.

    You and many others are extremely jumping to conclusions that he "needs help"....he ****ing poured hot coffee on an officer making 30k a year doing his job. **** him. Why is it in this country, someone posts some drug pictures, does something stupid and breaks the law its immedietly assumed hes sick in the head and needs help?

    Maybe hes a ****ing criminal?
     
  5. Fin D

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    I think considering his background and history and then considering how much he attained he should have been on top of this problem of his by now.

    You can't generally help the cards your dealt but its up to you how you play that hand. I have little sympathy for a guy that knows where the wrong road leads AND knows where the good road leads who has then put themselves into a position piss away the good for the bad. He's a grown, college educated man with resources most of us will never have, shame on him for letting it get to this point.
     
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  6. GridIronKing34

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    Facts will come out over the next few weeks about the fall of Davone Bess. No idea what they'll be but I doubt it's as simple as "he's a dirtbag criminal" or whatever.
     
  7. GMJohnson

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    About Ireland? Sure, I'd say people are already beginning to realize that firing the GM won't win us a single game. Bess not so much. Not too many people are going to come around on posting career lows as a receiver, quitting midseason and assaulting a police officer.
     
  8. Muck

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    When I saw the second weed photo, it reminded me of Ricky Williams, how he said he wasn't brave enough to walk away, so he failed a drug test. And that sort of jives with things I'd heard before he was shipped out. Maybe he's not so hot on playing ball anymore.

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  9. GMJohnson

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    That sucks, but at least he didn't walk out the cafeteria and go crying to his mommy...
     
  10. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Once you get to the point of being able to pay your bills and take care of your children, having more money doesn't make you a more joyful person. If you are a miserable SOB broke, you are going to be a miserable SOB rich
     
  11. slickj101

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    Not if you're only miserable bc you can't pay your bills and take care of your kids.
     
  12. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    You think that is the reason, however when you have the money, there is a good chance that you will find something else to be miserable about.

    Even though you will be somewhat less miserable now you can pay your bills.
     
  13. slickj101

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    Not necessarily. Aren't poverty and your kids going hungry a good enough reason? lol
     
  14. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Actually no. There are plenty of people who have problems feeding their kids and living in poverty that are also some of the most joyful people.
     
  15. slickj101

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    I'm sure there are some but to suggest anyone who's unhappy bc they live in poverty is just a manic depressive and would still be unhappy if they had money to take care of their most basic needs, is crazy, imo.
     
  16. Fin D

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    Then that's not the trigger for those people. I'm pretty happy and not particularly well to do, but me and my wife chose not to have kids (ok, ok, its court mandated I'm not allowed to reproduce), but I can tell you if we did have kids and I couldn't afford to feed them I'd be very unhappy and stressed about that even though I'm happy more or less every where else.

    i just don't see evidence that all people need the exact same things to be happy. Since they don't, you can't say what you're saying.
     
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  17. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I do read articles and studies on this. I also didn't say they were a manic depressive.

    All I am saying is that money will not take a unhappy person and make them a happy person. It does relieve stress and it does improve happiness. However the happiness it brings almost levels out once you get to the point where you can take care of your children and your bills. Meaning having $100,000 a year brings about the same amount of joy to your life as having $1,000,000 a year.

    The point I am trying to make is one of the biggest myths is that people with lots of money shouldn't have problems because they have lots of money or they should be happy people because they have lots of money. It doesn't work that way.

    Generally speaking, people who complain all the time about money, when they get money, they find new things to complain about. Might even start complaining about having too much money.

    Also, if the only problem in your life is lack of money, however everything else is going perfectly, then you are living a pretty good life.
     
  18. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I never said that people need the exact same thing to be happy.

    If you want to be technical, you cannot say that because you do not know because you do not have kids. What you are saying is just a guess and you might be pretty happy with your life minus the fact that you feel stress about feeding your kids.

    We see this phenomenon a lot with lottery winners. They are happy at first and then over time they come back down to the level they were before if not actually worse off. It isn't 100%, because all statistics break down when you speak of individuals.

    Also many Americans are surprised when they go to poorer countries where they do have more problems feeding their children by how much happier the people are there then they are at home.
     
  19. Fin D

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    But many problems often require resources to solve. Resources like a doctor visit, therapy, classes, medication or even a self help book, all things that can help someone overcome the issues that are making them unhappy and all things easier to get by being wealthy.
     
  20. Shamboubou

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    I just don't get it. This makes me really think about the legalization of marijuana in Colorado and other states. People act like its not a drug that's addictive or that big of a deal, yet these people throw their lives and millions of dollars away to smoke. There is something more to that.
     
  21. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Saying all that, I am not saying money doesn't help. Money doesn't increase happiness. Money can be great for hiring people who can help you become more happy. It is awesome. However if you are expecting money to solve all your problems, then chances are, you are going to be disappointed.
     
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  22. slickj101

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    I agree you can still be unhappy once you have money, sure. But what you're talking about are the difference between problems and uptown problems lol

    Some people will always complain and find something to complain about (look at this board for gods sake).

    Lack of money leads to some of the biggest issues out there though so you really can't say anyone who's struggling that badly and in need of it is necessarily living a good life. If I told you I live in an alley and eat McDonalds and random trash pickings every day you probably wouldn't think I was living a pretty good life.
     
  23. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Generally speaking money is not the deterrent to those resources. Especially in America. Libraries are free. Free clinics and free therapists. Many free classes. Just because you have money doesn't mean you will all of a sudden you will take advantage of them.
     
  24. invid

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    Sounds like prescription drugs to me or something a lot more chemically enriched than pot.
     
  25. Fin D

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    I think the issue is that you think people are saying money directly equals happiness and I don't think anyone is saying that here. With Bess, he has the resources that poor people do not that could help him through this issue. Rubbing a $1000 on your forehead won't cure depression, but it might get you a few sessions with a therapist.

    I didn't mean to imply you said everyone needs the same thing to be happy, just that if what makes people happy is different then money maybe someone's trigger to be happy or starving children maybe someone's trigger to be unhappy.
     
  26. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    However, you can be perfectly happy and much more happier as a person who lives in an ally, eating McDonalds and random trash pickings than a person who is making tons of money on the stock market. There are many factors. Money is just one of them.

    I am also not arguing that money is not a factor, which it seems to me like you are claiming that I am. My point is generally, it is not the cure all that people think it is and having tons of it will not make all your demons go away.
     
  27. slickj101

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    But you have more options, which is all the difference in the world.
     
  28. Fin D

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    I really feel like you're arguing against something no one is saying.

    Of course money doesn't mean you'll use those resources. Having money means you have more and generally better resources. I'm not saying anything controversial here.
     
  29. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I see this a lot when people talk about athletes.
     
  30. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I never said it didn't make a difference. Just not "all the difference in the world."
     
  31. slickj101

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    Unless you're high out of your mind or mentally disabled, I highly doubt that.
     
  32. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    I think the issue is you are reading into more than what I am saying.
     
  33. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    The person living on the street could think the same thing about you.
     
  34. slickj101

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    Well Kellen Winslow should make Bess feel a little better by default. He got arrested for jerking off in his car in a parking lot while in possession of synthetic marijuana lol Yikes.
     
  35. slickj101

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    You find me the homeless person living on the street in NY during winter who wouldn't rather be rich off the stock market and have a roof over their head and we'll entertain that idea.
     
  36. Fin D

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    Like I said, I think you're inferring SICK meant because he's rich he should have no problems, I don't think SICK thinks like that.

    I think he's saying that someone who has the resources that many do not, should have a better handle on their issues.

    Someone who makes 7 figures a year but still has a starving kid should be looked at differently than a person in poverty with a starving kid..no? Why? Because the 7 figure person has the resources to solve the problem.
     
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  37. Fin D

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    I don't see where I'm doing that.
     
  38. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Most of the things I have said in the thread is more of a one-on-one conversation with slick
     
  39. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    That has little to nothing to do with what I am talking about.
     
  40. Dol-Fan Dupree

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    Cold builds character.
     

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