Can we get some please?

What am I in denial about?

 

What's dysfunctional about two people at work falling out? One was an a hole who shoulda been canned for a previous indiscretion. Perhaps we could go for some perspective. The cogmartin incident didn't hugely affect the team. You want to say that philbin vs Aponte vs Ireland is dysfunction. I disagree. It seems like something that happens in a million work places. Just because you're emotionally invested in it doesn't make it any more serious than a workplace falling out.
As for other teams, who gives a flip. Are we better off now than before the start of the season? I'd say so. We have ditched Ireland and Sherman. The two main complaints all season. If you want to really compare to other teams I'd argue that Tampa, Detroit, maybe Minnesota and Houston. He browns ditched a first-year coach. Their owner is under investigation. They have no qb. Perspective buddy.

 

You don't want to be here in a year or two? Don't follow a sports team.
We can make our own winners. That is what we need to do. Plenty of winning coaches have moved and become losers. Dolphins are in a trough, troughs have upsides at the other end. I'll stick around following this team and enjoy them when the swing up. Back the team. Be positive. It's better for you.

 

The Incognito and Martin incident didn't hugely effect the team? Wow. If nothing else we lost the left side of our OL, and there was a lot of drama, turmoil and embarrassment beyond that. We were a national laughing stock and focal point for weeks, a model of dysfunction. I think that you'd be hard pressed to show that Minnesota, Detoit or Tampa Bay had a more dysfunctional year than the Miami Dolphins.

 

Because of this post, I have been paying attention to brady's long throws and, yeah. They have all been garbage. Not even close to anything over 20 yards.

 

How badly did it effect the teams on field performance? The left side of our o line had hardly covered themselves in glory. As for drama, turmoil and embarrassment, how do you quantify that? Do players care? I'll bet their biggest concerns are money and chance of a ring. The people who cared wrote for newspapers. Actually, that isn't really true. The bloggers and Twitter hacks cared. A national laughing stock? Please. So some people had some chuckles, so what. Tampa ditched their first round draft pick qb after a strop with a coach. Detroit had the opportunity to walk away with it andwand went to pieces far more impressively than us. Minnesota? 3 first round picks and no qb to do anything with. They splurged $3M on the Tampa qb! For nothing. No reason.

 

Dude, we lost the left side of our already questionable offensive line. No offense, but if I'm living in south Florida and you're living in Scotland we might look at this differently. The whole Jonathan Martin saga was big national news, not just for south FLorida or just within NFL circles for that matter. It was a huge embarrassment and sign of dysfunction for everyone from Stephen Ross all the way down to Dolphins fans like us.

 

You live in Florida and yeah I know it was a big deal. But I'm saying so what. How has it affected the future? Embarrassing? Maybe, for a while but that's it. Is it more embarrassing or less embarrassing to have your star TE kill someone? Or your wide reciever make racist remarks? Or pick any of the drunk driving gun carrying cop fighting security attacking sexually assaulting nfl players. Every team has times like this. You've perspective because you think that it's only us. It isn't. Its everyone at some point or another.

 

The team was already stumbling after a 3-0 start. The lid came off of what goes on in an NFL locker room, and a lot of that stuff should stay in house, not be all over the national news- it was embarrasing. There was somewhat of a blame game going on, with Philbin, Ireland and the OL coach in "who, me?" mode. The team's owner was mortified. Players were getting pounded by the press for answers and didn't know what to say. There was some weird mojo down here. We became a national punch line. And we lost the left side of our OL, one that already significantly lacked talent and depth. We all have our opinions, that's my take on the situation. It wasn't a particularly good year to be a Dolphins fan.

 

I feel for ya if you really believe that bulls***. Kraft is the media dandy, but he's got a lot of dirt going on, some of which has come to light, most of which won't. I personally know a few people that have spent time with him in New York after his wife passed, and let's just say he's not the model image that fits the "Patriot Way."

F*** him and the rest of 'em.

But I do agree...an air of respectability needs to be established within the Dolphins organization. That should be job 1 in my opinion. Couple that with winning, and the Dolphins would get the same respect the Seachickens, Patsies and Steelers get from the media/"experts."

But please don't throw New England out there as the f***ing example....they're trash, cheating, killing, lying, the lot of 'em.

 

You started following the team when you were 3? Most people cannot remember anything about when they were 3.

 

I guess Buffalo is a good place to be from...as in far away from.

 

There is definitely some things to emulate from their organization. They are like the Spurs in the NBA. Great system, great ownership, great management, and all the players follow suit. Doesn't mean I don't hope they lose every game, but you can't help but respect them.

 

well no one is going to win the division letting Wes Welker go to a rivial and replacing him with a wr who wasn't even a blimp on the media and other team's radar .

 

First off I can empathize. I live in CT right on the line between Jets and New England country and my 13 year old son has had to put up with comments from both fan bases over the years.

As far as "The Patriot Way" is concerned, I think its a lot like respect there is no way get create respect you have to earn it. Bellicheck didn't walk into Foxboro and have the entire team and staff buy into his philosophy. After all he was the guy who failed in Cleveland. He hadn't done anything by himself and his only success came with Parcels at his side. When Bledsoe was healthy again but he choose to stay with Brady, fans thought he was nuts. But after the winning started more and more people started to buy in.

Willie McGinest makes an interesting comment about Bellicheck bringing in a group of his guys at the beginning of his career with the Pats. Parcels would do this everywhere he coached. He would bring in 5 to 6 players that were "his guys". They didn't need to be superstars or even starters but guys who would help sell his philosophies to the troops. Philbin hasn't brought in anyone who is "one of his guys" but rather seems to be trying to build this from the ground up. If Philbin starts to have some success then players will start to buy into him which in turn will help to sell the philosophy to the new players but it takes time and credibility to get it done.

 

Our LB coach wasn't fired, he left to take the DC position in Minn. I honestly don't have an opinion on the new guy but he was hired to fill an opening not just to trade names.

 

That's a very telling comment.

 

I love how you throw out Lazer and his record with no context.

In your world QB coach has the same impact as OC?