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Breaking: Dolphins hire Dennis Hickey as GM

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by Phins_Fan_87, Jan 26, 2014.

  1. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Could you imagine being the scout who watched guys like colston or brady and the gm/coach simply ignored your pleas? after 18 years im betting hickey was shot down on some eventual pro bowlers, maybe a few hofer's.

    Id get a little testy about it too
     
  2. bigbry

    bigbry Huge Member

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    I wish I knew more about the Bully-gate investigation and if it warrants some type of overall organizational discipline.
     
  3. GMJohnson

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    About as comforting as it'd be for Bucs fans if Tampa was hiring Mike Sherman to replace Schiano, after being turned down by 4-5 more qualified candidates.
     
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  4. GMJohnson

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    I hope we have heard the last of that crap. I don't expect any thing major to come of it, unless the NFL is sitting on some bomb shell evidence, and they're as good at keeping secrets as a Girl Scout troop.
     
  5. ToddPhin

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    Aren't you?
    I wasn't a staunch supporter of Ireland BTW. What I was, was a staunch supporter of not firing him at the time b/c I felt he deserved to have his 3 years away from Parcells to show what he can do on his own after spending a couple years accumulating draft picks and salary cap space to make a splash in 2013.

    I think he did a better job than many fans would lead to believe [hell, we should've been in the playoffs with better coaching], but I also didn't want him standing in the way of landing a top notch GM who could take us over the top and solidify the organization. However, I also understood that wanting a top notch GM and landing a top notch GM might prove to be two different things based on the mess we've noticeably had, which is why I wasn't hell bent on parading for his termination. I specifically said, "firing Ireland isn't the solution; finding the right replacement is", and that rings even truer today, but unfortunately much of the fan base was deluded into thinking Ireland's termination in and of itself would turn everything around. I mean cmon, us picking this year, this moment, as the time to try to lure a great GM candidate? That'd be like me foolishly deciding to sell my car during a temporary bout of mega gas inflation. If Ross was set on staying with Philbin, he should've waited a year to fire Ireland to at least give the team a chance to either stabilize under Joe [and his new, first time OC] or sink under Joe to where it's a full house clean and the new GM can bring in his own guys.

    The fans got what they wanted, and now we're probably worse off for it. This is like when fans chanted for Kyle Orton, only in this case they got him. There are a handful of candidates I'd rather have over Ireland and I'd been involved in the discussion about his replacement for months, but at the moment I'd rather have him back.
     
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  6. bigbry

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    I'm just trying to find some potential positive reasons.

    If anyone is trying to just point out negatives then they will find them.
     
  7. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Additionally, if anyone goes fishing behind the scenes for anything, positives or negatives, they will find negatives.
     
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  8. Jagfish

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    Not uncommon for entire scoutng staff to get the boot with a new regime. PFT had a report Hickey was meeting with TB new GM Licht and may not have gotten canned. PBP also had a report that he might bring in Mark Dominik as a part of his staff.
     
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  9. jinx

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    Not true.

    “@AdamSchefter: Bucs GM Jason Licht and new MIA GM Dennis Hickey were scheduled to meet Weds to discuss future. Hickey would have been kept and evaluated.”
     
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  10. ToddPhin

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    yeah that's still not an endorsement and certainly isn't a statement to hang your hat on when aspiring for greatness.
     
  11. PSG

    PSG Clear Eyes. Full Hearts.

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    Wow.
    This is unbelievable. I'm going to at least let the guy do something before I start bashing him.
    And people around here call me negative.
     
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  12. jinx

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    I didn't say it was. Just pointing out that Schefter reported that Hickey wasn't going to be fired.
     
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  13. jinx

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    I heard a Tampa beat writer on the radio this afternoon. He said he would be shocked if Hickey doesn't bring in Dominik in some capacity. Apparently they are very, very close.
     
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  14. Jagfish

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    There has been a bunch of misinformation floated out there during this entire search. Mando saying guys wanted to dump the coach and the candidates floating out the opposite, same with the power structure, even after Ross stated what that was. I tend to think Schefter is solid and has the pulse of what's going on, as opposed to a guy like Lacanfora.
     
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  15. jinx

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    I tend to trust Schefter, but there are a lot of agendas at play here. Maybe Tampa was going to let him go but didn't want it leaked in the media like that out of respect for Hickey, so they told Schefter he wasn't going to be fired. Who really knows. I'm not going to judge Hickey based on the fact that he might have been let go by a new general manager.
     
  16. 77FinFan

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    I'm guessing we will know more in December.
     
  17. Jagfish

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  18. Itsdahumidity

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    Hickey was just described to me by one insider as "Philbin with half the personality." Ouch.
     
  19. Lets just hope that is the chemistry for a good marriage between them.
     
  20. ToddPhin

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  21. Sethdaddy8

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    Gamble's dad died. Someone refer to Seinfeld and see how "the switch" can be pulled off!
     
  22. ckparrothead

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    I think Tom Gamble is going through a tough time and it would be appropriate to give him a year to settle affairs in Philadelphia and move on.

    Hopefully Dennis Hickey will be fired by then and hopefully Gamble's association with Norman Braman will not prevent him considering the job again.
     
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  23. ConvenientTruth

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    Curious as to why you would want someone fired before he's even had a chance to show what he can or can't do....
     
  24. ckparrothead

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    Because he shouldn't have been hired.

    And I don't believe that an endorsement from Steve Ross should make us suddenly go brainless, forget everything we know and/or have learned, lose our opinions and get swayed back to a neutral stance just because...just because...well, just because. Steve Ross has not earned that kind of benefit of the doubt.
     
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  25. slickj101

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    Nor can we assume he'll fall on his face bc Ross hired him.

    Again, majority of the fanbase was ecstatic when we landed the tuna and we all know how that worked out.
     
  26. finfansince72

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    I wouldn't have hired him but I do hope he turns out to be a genius and we build a great roster. I really don't care too much about the people that turned us down, they aren't coming here for whatever reason(s) they had. I don't like this hire and I don't have high hopes, but I do hope he succeeds, I mean I knew Wannestadt was a terrible coach but I hoped somehow he would turn into Shula and Lombardi and we would have won a few titles with him. You are right though, Ross deserves no benefit of the doubt, its not like he's brought a title here or done anything even worthwhile since he's bought the team.

    IF Ross were somewhat intelligent he would pay for the improvements on the stadium, bring a Superbowl to Miami and at least show some good faith in that regard. But running your team like **** then asking for free money is a sign of arrogance and stupidity on his part. This offseason is leaving a bad taste in everyone's mouth, I find it hard to get excited about our team next year. I hope for the best though.
     
  27. finfansince72

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    I kind of had a sick feeling that Parcells was done when we got him but at least he had the track record of a HOF career following him, I mean its not like he was the 102th choice and we hired him because he was willing to come here. When he passed on Matt Ryan I knew we were done.
     
  28. slickj101

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    When we drafted Pat White I knew we were done.

    Matt Ryan would of been better than Henne for those few years but now that we have Tannehill I'd still take him 100% of the time over Ryan.
     
  29. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I had mixed but mostly negative feelings on Bill Parcells when he was hired. You knew if anyone could pull a team out of a 1-15 gutter it was him, but I was also wary of the cronyism that comes with him and how he seems to hand jobs to friends instead of hiring the best guys. Case in point, he hired Tony Sparano because that was the guy he carried with him in his back pocket to Miami, even though Rex Ryan wowed the hell out of him in the interview process to where Parcells facilitated the Jets hiring him a year later. My prediction with Parcells was that while we may win more, in the end we're going to hate this man.

    On the other hand I thought Jeff Ireland was a good hire by Parcells. He had a pretty good resume up to that point, as far as being a personnel assistant that had never held full authority. I really had high hopes for him. It wasn't until around late 2010 that I soured on him.
     
  30. finfansince72

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    Kind of curious since Matt Ryan has played a lot better than Tannehill every year he's been in the league. Dolphin fans live in lala land about Ryan. We would been a legitimate Superbowl contender if we had drafted Matt Ryan. Its not even arguable at this point that he's a franchise Qb that has shown the ability to take a team far in the playoffs, so its not even a question about whether we should have drafted him or not. Even Parcells admitted it was a terrible decision. I like Tannehill a lot, I'm not dumping on him at all, I'm glad we have him but he has a LONG way to go to be as good as Ryan has shown himself to be.
     
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  31. BicketyBam

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    I wonder why Tom Gamble never got a second interview with the Jets last year.
     
  32. ConvenientTruth

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    Wishing failure for the sake of finding someone you think will be better makes little sense. I understand being disappointing the team didn't land the person you (or even Ross) may have wanted, but why should be want a person to fail just for the sake of replacement....even before he has a chance to actually do anything in the job.
     
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  33. slickj101

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    What's Ryan done to show that he's so good again?

    Shown he can take a team far in the playoffs? Huh?
     
  34. BicketyBam

    BicketyBam No Fist Pumps Allowed

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    That and won 8 games with Geno Smith and no wide receivers.

    Edit: Oops. I thought you were talking about Rex Ryan. My bad :(
     
  35. finfansince72

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    Honestly, theres no point derailing a thread to get into another Matt Ryan argument. If you don't see what he's done then you're either blind or just being argumentative. No one outside of this message board has anything but good things to say about Matt. He turned around a sorry franchise and is a franchise caliber Qb, its not even a question at this point. Except for this message board for some reason.
     
  36. Alex44

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    I definiteky think Matt Ryan is a franchise QB but I'd but him in the lower end of the tier for sure.
     
  37. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    This is somewhat silly. Stats don't tell a story, there is a ton of context around them not limited to the skill of your offeoffensive teamates.
     
  38. slickj101

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    Uh huh. So that was purely Matt Ryan and not the amazing offense he had waiting for him. Got it.
     
  39. slickj101

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    I can see you're new here :lol:
     
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  40. Rocky Raccoon

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    Umm, what? They're talking about Matt Ryan, not Rex Ryan. You are DEFINITELY a Jets fan.
     
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