coke commercial

I'd much rather discuss the Doberwawa commercial where Sarah Mcglaughlan makes fun of herself. Good stuff.

 

Nope. Not the horse one. The soldier one.

 

that was the only commercial I really liked. But to the OP, I found absolutely zero percent of the coke commercial offensive. I actually find it amazing that people are getting worked up over it. beyond silly.

 

Why aren't people pissed about the Bob Dylan car commercial?

Number 1 its derivative of their Clint Eastwood commerical last year (or 2 years ago?).
Number 2 it tarnishes the message of the Clint Eastwood one which was amazing.
Number 3 it proved even Bob Dylan, is an effing sell out.

 

he's so old, let him be a sell out and make easy money. actually the only issue I have with that commercial is the reference to Germany making our beer. Best beer in the world is made in America, not Germany. Now, if they had refined it to "let Germany make you your Pilsner or Hefeweizen", then it might be more accurate.

 

I had no idea people said stupid and shocking things on social media. Thank God for Gawker Media to keep me apprised.

 

This....Got to love the "America isn't great" clan, while they sit in a free society, where they spew off dumbass **** on a computer.

Go to the Middle East where you aren't allowed to do any of it or if you do and get caught, your family dies....

 

I think you misunderstood what i was saying.

I think Chrysler's ad team ripped off themselves. I also think Dylan is sell out.

 

Why is the Middle East the only place someone can go? Many places in Europe have more freedom and benefits then the US.

 

You know what I was saying....actually you know what? You ****ing go to ok *******..................................!?!?





















































































No wait........

 

Tell em why you mad son tell em why you mad.

 

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Are you serious? I was born and raised in South Florida and lived a year in Coral Gables so I've had PLENTY of foreign friends, probably more foreign friends than multi-generational American ones. I've lost track of how many girls I've dated over the years who were either first generation American or on a green card. My best friend and next door neighbor growing up was Columbian. His family emigrated from there. Yup, I have so much fear and hatred of foreigners that I ate dinner with them probably a hundred times and were the first to introduce me to cow's tongue, which I'll never eat again but at least tried out of respect to their culture. His parents took the time to learn English so they could at least communicate with others here. My current best friend is Italian and whose parents emigrated from Portofino. They speak Italian at home..... but they speak English with me or whenever they go to the goddam grocery store. My best friend's wife is from France, accent and all, but she speaks English here. My other best friend's wife and her family are from Brazil. They speak Portuguese with each other at home, but around my friend or in public they speak English and have made an attempt to learn the country's language. I'm not a soccer fan but it was fun watching the world cup with her family just to be around the energy of it.

I took Spanish for 7 years in school and another 4 semesters in college to learn the country's second most spoken language even though I live here and speak the official language. I spent more time trying to learn their language than an alarming percentage of foreigners attempt to learn ours. I don't care what language they speak in their homes or amongst themselves, but if they make little to no attempt to learn the language of the country that gives them refuge and provides them employment and a means to support their families back home even though it hurts our economy, the least they could do is make a better attempt to learn the language, but apparently, according to you, Nappy, and that blowhard Fin-D this makes me a racist, god fearing, American folk. The country does enough for foreigners as it is, or would you disagree with that? It shouldn't have to sing one of its traditional, historical songs in foreign languages.

If the Miami Dolphins were to suddenly change its colors to purple and green, would you call me xenophobic for not supporting it? The song is the song, and being sung unbroken in its original English form is a part of it and its tradition.

 

Nice try chump. Did that make you feel better? Show me where I worded it that America the Beautiful is THEEE NATIONAL ANTHEM. I specifically didn't do so b/c I well know the Star Spangled Banner is the the official "national anthem". America the Beautiful is more than just a song to this country, genius. Amusing that you throw out the obnoxious, condescending "You go patriot" comment [even though I hadn't first insulted you] yet you seem clueless that America the Beautiful is regarded as an unofficial anthem and has been lobbied for years to replace Star Spangled Banner as the official anthem, especially since 9/11 when it's become more regarded and favored than SSB.

Right, they used the military to gain citizenship, as in- it was an opportunity for them, correct? Did the U.S. twist their arm?... or was the thought of becoming an American citizen so alluring that they'd be willing to join our military for it? And this differs from what I said how? And the ones not seeking citizenship- they don't live in America so they wouldn't apply to the song anyways. What were they seeking BTW? Employment or other benefits? I love how people treat the U.S. military as if its some type of tyrannical third world country that forces people against their will to fight for it.

I support our troops. I'd be a hypocrite not to considering my father was 100% disabled from his service and had his life ruined and cut short b/c of it. He ultimately died for this country, and he along with the other two and a half million Americans killed or wounded before him bled and died to make sure you and the millions seeking refuge here could have an America The Beautiful in the first goddam place. So for that reason and that reason alone, just sing the f***ing song as it was created.

 

Dude, where have you been? Dylan sold out in 1966.

 

Patriotism isn't genuine when it's forced. Anything, no matter how good, can be improved. The "America -- love it or leave it" crowd have a lot to learn about America and what really makes her great.

 

Fin D made the obnoxious racist comment, but I shouldn't expect any less from him so his comment shouldn't surprise me. I don't need to look up xenophobia. Perhaps you should instead reread my post b/c xenophobic people would never have a lifelong of foreign friends.

Wrong. It allows foreigners to feel as though they can live separately in America b/c we're identifying them for the country they left and the language they speak rather than viewing them as one collective group. By translating the song in a dozen languages it sends the message that anyone can emigrate to country and reside here w/o needing to learn its language, which does more to create separation than unification. The thing that would serve to better unify the country would be to keep the song in its original English form and have foreigners learn it as such and sing it as such. One voice. Not sure how that's so difficult to understand. You unify something by becoming one with it, not separating it into fifty pieces. What would better unify the country would be all of its residents making a better effort to speak the language b/c I don't know about you but I sure as hell don't feel "unified" in a grocery store in Miami where the checkout clerk needs to ask someone who speaks English to translate for her. That's isolating, not unifying.


Supporting the TRADITIONAL song for how it was intended, written, and created by Katherine Lee Bates as she traveled to Colorado from Massachusetts does NOT equate to xenophobia, racism, or any other bulls-t you guys are attempting to spew forth. It was her song, not a collaborative effort of 20 foreigners. She wrote it. in English. and part of its lyrics were inspired by her patriotic feelings amidst her FOURTH OF JULY train ride through the heart of America, you know- the 4th of July, the date of this country's independence. She's not speaking of amber grain from Mexico, purple mountains from Brazil, alabaster city glow of Tokyo, etc, so why should HER song, about her country, be broken up into languages of other countries? Foreigners can be integrated into this country and embraced by this country w/o having to slaughter one of the nation's most tradition songs or forcing generations of American born citizens to have to listen to an historical American song in a dozen different languages. Seriously, why should the majority of the country that speaks English, has been here for more than one generation and has helped build the backbone of this country, endured its woes, had millions of family members serve and die for this country throughout its history, have to listen to America the Beautiful in a smorgasbord of non understandable languages? How is that fair and appropriate to them?

Coke sold out America by taking a traditional, historical, patriotic AMERICAN song written about America and its land and translated it into many languages in order to reach a wider demographic. They didn't pay millions for the commercial spot to make a generous philanthropic statement. They did it solely to spread their crap to a wider audience in effort to increase revenue. period. and it's kinda disturbing that you and others are treating this as if the United States itself got together to create this new version of the song rather than being conspired by the marketing team of Coke.

 

LOL, no it doesn't. I hope the American masses survived the traumatic experience of hearing some other languages. Hopefully the suicide hotlines have been able to handle the workload today.

You can go to so many other countries in the world and get by fine just speaking English [including the Middle East]. As a matter of fact most of the countries teach children English in school. When I was in Iraq most of the kids were fluent in English. Signs in countries all over the world tend to be written in English as well as the native language. I'll never understand why Americans get so butt hurt if they find out some immigrant hasn't become fluent in English a couple of weeks after they hit the ground here. Or about telephone customer service lines having a Spanish option. God forbid!

 

America is the best because of freedom!!!!!! That's why no should be allowed to sing about AMERICA in any other language!!!!


But I'm the blowhard? Lol

 

Jesus. Must've missed the footnotes in Katherine Lee Bates' song that said, "To be sung in 'Murican only!"

 

I was discussing it as if it were to become a permanent thing [like some are intimating would be ok], and what does what you said have to do with those of us who are annoyed that Coke translated a traditional American song out of its natural language in attempt to generate revenue. Coke obviously didn't create the ad with American Immigrants' best interest in mind; they did it with wallets in mind.

Thank you for supporting my post? Read your above bold part and then read your statement below. Don't they contradict each other? On one hand you're saying people all over the world speak English at an understandable level and are even taught it in school [that's how important the world views it], yet you're arguing that it's acceptable for immigrants to not know or learn it here even though it's been the unofficial language for hundreds of years. That doesn't make sense.

Righhhhht.... because every immigrant makes an attempt to learn the language. Yup, you know everything. There are millions of American immigrants who make little to no attempt to learn the language, but I guess it's unworldly, racist, and non compassionate of me to prefer those specific immigrants to make a better attempt to learn the language. I don't know how sheltered you are within this country but there are residents of other countries around the world [like you mentioned] who make a better attempt to learn our language than many of the immigrants here. Now, before you climb even further up your high horse, none of this has to do with an "I'm better than you because I speak English" mentality. It has to do with a unity-based mentality, for the same reason the rest of the world is attempting to learn English. You can't communicate with or love thy neighbor if you can't f***ing understand him, and it sure as hell is a lot easier for many people in this country to be non embracing toward others simply because they don't share a common language and can't understand them. How many friends do you have who only speak a language you don't understand? I'm guessing that answer is zero. How would this forum operate if it weren't of one common language? You talk a big game but I'd love to see how often you log in here if you had to sift through tons of different languages. Should we start accepting pesos, rubles, and yen now too?

 

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Songs are translated to different languages constantly.

Even ones originally in "'Murican."

 

Not offended by commercial, just bored to tears.

 

right, cause translating a pop song from English to German is clearly the same thing as singing a national song in a dozen different languages in one pass through.

 

Here are a few random thoughts after reading this commercial.

(1) My initial reaction on seeing the spot was "Wow. Cool of them to leave the 'God shed his grace on thee' line in there and in English."

(2) The reason you wouldn't hear people in European countries sing songs of neighboring countries is those countries weren't founded on the enthusiasm of immigrants; they're all far more homogeneous than the US.

(3) To hear people of "foreign" heritage sing with joy in their native language of their pride in being American shouldn't offend; it should inspire. It's a reminder of what makes us unique.

(4) Perhaps most amusing to me is that, lost in the hubbub over language, is the presence of a gay family in the commercial. In a spot invoking God's grace, of all things.

 

After reading [the thread] about this commercial, that should read.

 

If Coca-Cola goes back to the polar bears for next year's ad, some whiny mother****ers are gonna complain that it's exclusionary of other bear species.

What a bunch of morons. A nation of morons.

 

My first thought was, "Twitter is going to be full of racism"

 

I'm just sayin' dude. Why can't they put on a commercial with Black Bears and Brown Bears? Why must they always exclude the African American and Spanish/Hispanic populations?

*****And, due to the nature of the thread, here's a disclaimer: I wrote the above in tongue-in-cheek.******

 

I might be overbearing at times.... but you act like a flat out blowhard who is so full of himself he thinks the only way anyone can possibly have a differing opinion is if they're operating under some sort of ulterior motive or agenda.... like calling me a racist just b/c I didn't like what Coke did and even though I couldn't be further from a racist. It's what got you on ignore and is what'll keep you there.

I know plenty of people here who aren't whitebred Americans, some of whom are even American immigrants or first generation Americans, but I don't treat them any differently... and you know what- they've taken the time to learn the language, or else they wouldn't be writing here in the first place. One nation under one language = greater unity. One nation under many languages = greater chance to be divided. Not sure how you don't understand the basics behind communication.

Secondly, you act like immigrants need an American song to be changed in order to remind themselves where they came from, or that it's like parting the sea to learn the song in English. You act like I suggested the song should only be sung by long time English speaking Americans from American families whose ancestry dates back to the pilgrims or some dumb sh-t like that. That's how ridiculous you are. Why does the song have to be confusingly sung in twenty different languages where only the people of each specific language are able to understand the particular line being spoken at the time? It's no longer America the Beautiful when it's done like that; it's a bunch of foreign words strung together that no one understands in entirety. Great, Spanish people better understand the part that's being sung in Spanish; ditto for the Hindi, Arabic, Tagalog, etc parts; meanwhile the rest of the world has no clue what's being said at that time or throughout the majority of the song for that matter. I'm not rah rah patriotic by any means but it's still a grand stage to sing America the Beautiful to the rest of the world in its beautiful pure form, but no, Coke slaughters it. You see, amidst your attempt to insult me, here's what you're MISSING- you don't have to segregate American immigrants in order to sing the song in its original form. If you wanna highlight the cultural diversity among America, then have all those representatives sing America the Beautiful... together... in English... as it was intended. Many nations. Many accents. One voice. One togetherness. Period. It pays homage to America's diversity while also maintaining the country's roots. And if you can't look at people from other nations or cultures in the commercial and identify them as being such w/o hearing them speak, or if you think people from those nations can't identify their own w/o hearing them speak, then you have problems.

If you think I'm critical of foreigners who don't care to learn the language, you should hear what immigrants/foreigners who have worked hard to assimilate and learn the language have to say about it. They think they're lazy freeloaders who give other immigrants a bad wrap, and they can't stand being associated with them under one broad immigrant label. It's no different than how respectable, hard-working African Americans can't stand when their own race abuses the system or treats gangster life as if its supposed to be a part of their culture.

 

Blah, blah, blah, you hate it when people speak all foreigny. We get it. You're not racist cause some of your best good friends are not white Americans, blah, blah, blah.

Simple fact of the matter is that this effing country was founded on diversity of race, creed, religion, and even effing language.

You can wrap your bigotry up in any flag you want as long as when you're done you shove it straight up your exclusionary ***, because you are the WORST kind of American.

You are the kind that ****s all over the very concept of freedom so you paint your bigtory red, white & blue and pretend you're a proud American. Our soldiers didn't put their lives on the line for your sorry *** or my sorry ***. No they do it for the concept of freedom that you'd see taken away. You are acting like people shat on Jefferson's grave, when in reality Jefferson would slap the **** out of you for acting like people singing in praise of this country is a bad thing.

How about we all ***** that a company that makes a product that is bad for us is trying to co-op patriotism to sell their poison....?

No, instead bigots are gonna bigot.

oh and btw, I didn't call you racist, I said the notion of "speak English or get out" is BORDERLINE racist. That means its not quite racist. Following your logic, if I said you were borderline intelligent would you think I called you smart??

 

Nobody argued about excluding Black Bears and Brown Bears, genius. You realize you can represent every nationality that comprises this country w/o having to bastardize a national song with a dozen languages, right? Did you see me, Alex, or anyone else in this thread racially suggest it should only be sung by whitebread Americans? Is your mental ability that slow that you wouldn't recognize the diversity represented in the commercial if it weren't spoken in foreign languages? Do you actually think the rest of the world wouldn't recognize the diversity of the people in the commercial if the song were sung in America's unofficial English language instead?

 

Obviously there are plenty of people in the world who can't speak English well. The point is that a lot of other countries are open to the idea of English being used in their country even though it's not the "official" language. Immigrants will eventually learn English through immersion anyway. I don't see something like this as some big threat to English as the dominant language in the country.

 

Actually, it is America the Beautiful if song by twenty different languages. It is like "its a small world" is still "Its a small world" when song by different languages. If it wasn't then people wouldn't be able to translate them.

However, I am a red blooded American male who loves this country enough to know the song's lyrics without having to be spoon fed them by people having to speak English. If you do not love this country, you should move to Russia.

 

Still my favorite version of this song will always be by Fozzie the Bear.