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So Tannenhill's job is on the line?

Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by finyank13, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    32-8 is pretty damn great man. You have to throw a lot to score that many TDs in the air. I mean over a ten year career yhat is 320/80 that is pretty elite.

    I more care about his INT % in terms of pass attempts.
     
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  2. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Ok fine. 30-8. :shifty:
     
  3. CrunchTime

    CrunchTime Administrator Retired Administrator

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    The jury is still out on Tanny .Can you say the same for Luck ,Wilson or even Foles? Perhaps they are one year wonders like Griffin last year but to a certain extent they have proven themselves .Tanny has not .His promise is that of his potential not his performance .He needs to take the next step to be considered in their class IMO.

    I can see why a lame duck coach like Philbin might think he can get more wins with Moore .Its about consistancy .Tanny is very inconsistant while Moore projects an image of consistancy whether its deserved or not.If Tanny has a few bad games at the beginning of the next year I can understand the temptation of a change at QB.

    I dont agree with it but I could understand why it could happen .Its still unlikely IMO.
     
  4. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    Maybe this is a backhanded attempt at getting Matt Moore to restructure at a lower price tag??

    Na, prolly not.
     
  5. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Wow, I did not know that he had to throw that much. Asking a lot of a 2nd year qb.
    I think the TD/INT numbers are unrealistic.
     
  6. Fin-Omenal

    Fin-Omenal Initiated

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    They are very realistic, 4 QBs did it last year.
     
  7. slickj101

    slickj101 Is Water

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    What have those 3 done that makes them proven that Tanny hasn't?
     
  8. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    My hope is that Sherman's philosophies inhibited Ryan Tannehill, yet taught him some valuable lessons in the process of losing games.
     
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  9. smahtaz

    smahtaz Pimpin Ain't Easy

    I was wondering about that as well. The Dolphins O reminded me of A&M in 2011. I guess we'll find out this year who the culprit was.
     
  10. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    That's 13% of QB'S. Statistically, it's unrealistic. Just because something happened doesn't mean it's realistic to expect. Aside from Nick Foles, and Peyton Manning who are the guys who did it? We're they 3rd year players and if they were, how many attempts did they have?

    A QB threw for 55 TD's. That ain't a realistic goal though. Not even for the guy who did it.

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  11. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Reading has indicated that we suffered from the same problems as TAMU with Sherman and Tannehill.

    Guess we'll know who really sucked.

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  12. CitizenSnips

    CitizenSnips hmm.

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    Lazor under no circumstances had to take the oc job here. He coulda went to Detroit or stayed in Philly another year and landed an oc job next season. He joined us, IMO, thinking he's in a very good spot. I hope so.
     
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  13. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Considering his TD to turnover ratio was almost 1:1 this year an improvement to 2:1 would be a step in the right direction and more than likely lead us to the playoffs. I think if we can manage to give up less than 30 sacks and limit the hits/pressures this could happen naturally without any progression by him. The two combined will hopefully lead to a better ratio.

    As far as the report, until someone is the best at their position, their job should always be on the line. The coaches job is to motivate them any way possible until they reach their full potential. We all need Tannehill, and everyone on this team, to improve this year if anything is going to change with the direction of this franchise.
     
  14. 77FinFan

    77FinFan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Go tell me how many times in the history of the league those ratios have been posted. I will be happy w/ better than 2:1.
    Saying he was 1:1 last year is some serious rounding.
     
  15. CaribPhin

    CaribPhin Guest

    Touchdown to turnover ratio. That includes fumbles.

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  16. RoninFin4

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  17. MAFishFan

    MAFishFan Team Tannehill

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    Yes, his deep ball was inaccurate this season. He fumbled a lot at the start of the season, but corrected that problem. His GM and head Coach (a former Oline coach mind you) put together a horrific line in front of him. The fact that he was sacked so many times and still managed to stay healthy and hang in there and not crumble is a miracle. He also had no running game whatsoever. Philbin is an idiot. The fact that he's already starting this crap tells me he knows his job is on the line and if that's the case, that moron owner of the Dolphins should have cleaned house this offseason. But as usual it's the half *** Dolphins doing things their way and it will fail. Tannehill is the least of this team's problems. Some will argue that he was the reason they only won 8 games. I counter, they won 8 because of him. Maybe he just needs time to develop and grow. Not everyone comes out on fire and lights up the league. Sure, Russell Wilson winning the SB puts some pressure on Tanny, but honestly, I'm fine if it takes him some time. To quote the Joker's plastic surgeon "You see what I have to work with?"
     
  18. Fin-Omenal

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  19. mlb1399

    mlb1399 Well-Known Member

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    Check the stats, 24 TD's and 22 turnovers. Key word in my post was almost 1:1 which is accurate(1.09:1 to be 100% accurate).

    http://www.nfl.com/player/ryantannehill/2532956/careerstats
     
  20. Limbo

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    Forget stats. Just score more than 7 points over two weeks with the playoffs on the line. Not to mention those games were against crap teams from our division, and we were favored to win both. Our division sucks and the AFC was terrible this year. He needs to take this team to the postseason for things to be satisfactory.
     
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  21. 77FinFan

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    Sorry, thank you.
    See above. :up:
     
  22. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    Tanny hasn't proven to be a Marino or Elway or Brady, so yes, his job is tenuous... That doesn't mean he won't get another year to prove himself...and it's not to say that he certainly deserves that opportunity, based on what we've seen from him...

    What we have to hope for is that the OL can be salvaged...something this fanbase has been asking for since....2002/03??
     
  23. jdang307

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    3-1 is something to shoot for. Hell Russell Wilson almost did that with 26-9 and he doesn't throw a lot

    Tannehill has the tools, smarts and attitude to improve. He can be Drew Brees, or the next Derek Anderson. Time will tell.
     
  24. OkiePhin

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    I was thinking that. There are also a lot of teams who need a QB. Maybe a little Moore hype doesn't hurt if they decide to trade him..
     
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  25. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    The thing is Wilson didn't almost do it. He would need six more TDs whilr throwing a reverse INT if that is even possible :lol:
     
  26. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    So far he's shown he's the next Carr. Talented but hasn't figured out what to do with the talent.
     
  27. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    :lol: Come on at least compare him to someone who had a moderate amountof success.
     
  28. Brasfin

    Brasfin Well-Known Member

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    Funny thing is this:

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    You would think the GM would get his son a jersey of someone who'd at least be a starter this coming season...
    :huh:
     
  29. Califin

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    Providing actual qoutes, insideously out of context seems to be the outlying fringe where the bulk of reporters today stake their credibility.
    When considering who Philbin was sharing these words with (was for the most part) being interviewed as someone Philbin would be expected to work arm in arm with, someone whom he would likely be placing HIS job alongside (hence his individually allocated "conversation" in the interview process), its possible Philbin was baiting this candidate simply to prompt a response. Perhaps he was seeking perspective, to see how informed, or studied he is, or how important Philbin's confidence in the QB is to this potential GM.
    Given the current state of affairs, Philbin might have even made this juicy, news worthy quote, merely to see if his integrity could be trusted with words spoken in confidence.
     
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  30. Silverphin

    Silverphin Well-Known Member

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    Just so we're clear, we're talking about David Carr, a QB that NEVER had as good of a season that Tannehill had this past season?
     
  31. HardKoreXXX

    HardKoreXXX Insensitive to the Touch

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    David Carr wasn't talented. At all.

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  32. Griese's Glasses

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    If Ryan gets benched and even 1 clown from our past season's OL stay on...I am done.
     
  33. djphinfan

    djphinfan Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    If he gets benched I'm sure it will be because of his own doing..I don't foresee him playing bad enough to get benched, should be fun to watch..not sure why you'd quit being a dolphin fan..lol

    I'm so tired of people threatening that, or threatening that they won't post here because of some of the members...

    Do what you gotta do.
     
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  34. Serpico Jones

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    Tannehill reminds me a lot of Jake Plummer who was ok but nothing special.
     
  35. Ducken

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    I truly do not get this line of thinking. Guys this is not baseball or basketball. This is probably the truest form of TEAM sport. It takes both sides of the ball playing semi competent to even sniff the playoffs. To lay everything like that on Ryan's shoulders is doing nothing but giving this team a 100% chance of failure. Even the greatest had help and did not need to carry the full load, nor was there expectations for them to.
     
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  36. RevRick

    RevRick Long Haired Leaping Gnome Club Member

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    Thank you. Most of the posts on here criticizing Tannehill and blaming him solely for the wins and losses are asinine, at best. Second year quarterback with no offensive line until mid season - and what I saw was definitely NOT David Carr standing in there - and we IMPROVED from a dismal season, and were in a position to play to make the playoffs. Then the team crumbled. Not just one person, the whole team. The defense stunk like a five day old run over skunk in the middle of a Texas summer in both games. The couldn't stop a drive with a machine gun. The offensive line could not run block at all, and looked like a poor Swiss cheese imitation when pass blocking - and it's all Tannehill's fault that we could not win those games. El Torro Poopoo!
     
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  37. Larryfinfan

    Larryfinfan 17-0...Priceless Club Member

    This fan base has had to 'blame' everything on our QBs since the day the music died (Marino retired), so naturally when we get a QB that is better than all that and the REST of the team peters out on him, it's just natural that most fans want to blame everything wrong with the team on Tanny.... Forget about the fact that the OL was, as usual, putrid. Forget the fact that Tanny had NO running game to support him. Forget the fact that the offensive play calling was high-school-ish all season long. Forget the fact that the D was a total sieve all season long and continually couldn't get opposing teams off the field on 3rd downs (save for game 1 against the Browns). Forget the fact that DL woefully under-performed as it relates to pressure on the opposing QB...Forget the fact that Wheeler couldn't plan the correct angle on an offensive player with a protractor in hand....none of that matters...only Tanny is the problem....

    Unbelievable....
     
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  38. Vertical Limit

    Vertical Limit Senior Member

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    What success has Tannehill had that is worth mentioning? I still see very little distance in talent level between him and Henne.

    Hell the offensive line Tannehill played under was better than any offensive line Carr had to work with and yet Carr still completed over 60%, one season he even completed 68% of his passes. Carr wishes he had this ****ty offensive line on the seasons he got sacked 76 and 68 times.
     
  39. jdang307

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    3:1 is 27-9. 9x3 = 27. He was one TD off that.
     
  40. Alex44

    Alex44 Boshosaurus Rex

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    No idea what I was thinking.
     

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