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Discussion in 'NFL Draft Forum' started by vt_dolfan, Dec 23, 2013.

  1. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    the next dimension
    Your picks
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    olb khalil mack
    buffalo


    53 ​
    dt aaron donald
    pittsburgh


    86 ​
    og xavier su’a-filo
    ucla


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    te c.j. Fiedorowicz
    iowa


    150 ​
    ot wesley johnson
    vanderbilt


    181 ​
    ot billy turner
    north dakota state


    214 ​
    rb isaiah crowell
    alabama state
     
  2. BuckeyeKing

    BuckeyeKing Wolves DYNASTY!!!!

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    ot taylor lewan
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    te austin seferian-jenkins
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    rb carlos hyde
    ohio state
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    ot seantrel henderson
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    de demarcus lawrence
    boise state
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    dt deandre coleman
    california
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    s christian bryant
    ohio state
     
  3. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    te jace amaro
    texas tech


    53 ​
    dt ra’shede hageman
    minnesota


    86 ​
    og xavier su’a-filo
    ucla


    117 ​
    ot seantrel henderson
    miami


    150 ​
    qb braxton miller
    ohio state


    181 ​
    ot billy turner
    north dakota state


    214 ​
    rb isaiah crowell
    alabama state
     
  4. ToddPhin

    ToddPhin Premium Member Luxury Box Club Member

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    I could live with this one:

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  5. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Martin seems to be a popular choice in round 2. Given Miami's needs at the OL - I am not a huge fan of Kouandjio but at #19 I think I'd take him and I'd probably plug him at RT (like SD did with Fluker). I'd take this and go home and be happy. Thomas will compete against Thigpen and I just could not pass up his overall athleticism.

    19 OT CYRUS KOUANDJIO
    ALABAMA

    50 OG ZACK MARTIN
    NOTRE DAME

    81 RB DE’ANTHONY THOMAS
    OREGON

    112 ILB MAX BULLOUGH
    MICHIGAN STATE

    143 OT JAMES HURST (Hurst broke his leg, but in round 5, I'm taking a chance on him - esp. since I already have two OLs drafted)
    UNC

    174 TE MARCEL JENSEN
    FRESNO STATE

    211 WR RYAN GRANT
    TULANE
     
  6. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    How the cookie crumbled:

    YOUR PICKS

    19 ILB C.J. MOSLEY ALABAMA
    50 DT RA’SHEDE HAGEMAN MINNESOTA
    81 OT MORGAN MOSES VIRGINIA
    112 TE C.J. FIEDOROWICZ IOWA
    143 DE JAMES GAYLE VIRGINIA TECH
    174 OT BILLY TURNER NORTH DAKOTA STATE
    211 OT WESLEY JOHNSON VANDERBILT
     
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  7. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    I like the way this fell:

    19 OT GREG ROBINSON
    AUBURN

    50 ILB SHAYNE SKOV
    STANFORD

    81 OT MORGAN MOSES
    VIRGINIA

    112 TE C.J. FIEDOROWICZ
    IOWA

    143 RB DE’ANTHONY THOMAS
    OREGON

    174 WR L’DAMIAN WASHINGTON
    MISSOURI

    211 OG KADEEM EDWARDS
    TENNESSEE STATE

    Definite LT starter. Potential RT starter. I'd take Skov right now over any of our ILB starters. TE who can be a red zone force and with his speed - a big weapon to go with Clay. Competition at RB and returns. A WR who can develop and a developmental OG with some potential to become a starter in a year or two.

    Honestly, at this point, I think I'd start Skov if we got him - and then start Jenkins at OLB.
     
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  8. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    YOUR PICKS

    19 OT CYRUS KOUANDJIO ALABAMA
    50 OLB KYLE VAN NOY BYU
    81 OT MORGAN MOSES VIRGINIA
    112 DE JAMES GAYLE VIRGINIA TECH
    143 OT SEANTREL HENDERSON MIAMI
    174 OT BILLY TURNER NORTH DAKOTA STATE
    211 OT WESLEY JOHNSON VANDERBILT

    Bam. Dion Jordan goes to OLB, Gayle to DE, Van Noy to OLB and Misi to the middle. An heir and a spare at OT both sides to decrapitate the position, maybe look and Henderson at OG, not sure. Ellerbe and Wheeler are GONE. Spend some of that money on OG, I would have liked to get one true OG here but I couldn't pass up on Henderson in the 5th rd.

    Gayle is an explosive DE- him, Wake and Vernon at DE with Jordan and Van Noy at OLB = pass rushing firepower.
     
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  9. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    I might have to do it again just so I can get Greg Robinson once in the 1st rd.
     
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  10. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Like how we both got Moses and Fiedorowicz at 81 and 112.

    If we got Robinson and Moses it would be a dream come true. But, I cannot imagine Robinson making it to 19.

    The fact that we have no flexibility this year (after doing all sorts of crazy trading down and up last year) is a bit annoying, to be honest.
     
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  11. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Thanks for doing this. This is a lot of fun.
     
  12. PhinsRDbest

    PhinsRDbest Transform and Transcend

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    s ha’sean clinton-dix
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    50 ​
    dt aaron donald
    pittsburgh


    81 ​
    te troy niklas
    notre dame


    112 ​
    rb jeremy hill
    lsu


    143 ​
    ot billy turner
    north dakota state


    174 ​
    dt calvin barnett
    oklahoma state


    211 ​
    fb j.c. Copeland
    lsu
     
  13. Not So Fast

    Not So Fast Well-Known Member

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    19 ​
    dt louis nix iii
    notre dame


    50 ​
    og zack martin
    notre dame


    81 ​
    ot sean hickey
    syracuse


    112 ​
    rb carlos hyde
    ohio state

    143 ​
    cb jaylen watkins
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    174 ​
    wr cody latimer
    indiana


    211 ​
    te joe don duncan
    dixie state
     
  14. Bjorn

    Bjorn Season Ticket Holder

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    Absolutely love this draft! Which coincidently means there is no chance it happens!

    19 OT TAYLOR LEWAN MICHIGAN
    50 WR PAUL RICHARDSON COLORADO
    81 OG ANTHONY STEEN ALABAMA
    112 RB ANDRE WILLIAMS BOSTON COLLEGE
    143 QB AARON MURRAY GEORGIA
    174 CB CHRIS DAVIS AUBURN
    211 TE JAKE MURPHY UTAH
     
  15. NUGap

    NUGap Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    Just did this again, I'm rather pleased with the value in rounds 4-6:

    1. Taylor Lewan (OT)
    2. Aaron Donald (DT)
    3. Xavier Su'a-Filo (OG)
    4. Troy Niklas (TE)
    5. Jeremy Hill (RB)
    6. Jimmie Ward (S)
    7. Jay Bromley (DT)
     
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  16. Two Tacos

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    19 OlT TAYLOR LEWAN MICHIGAN

    50 RB KA’DEEM CAREY ARIZONA

    81 G GABE JACKSON MISSISSIPPI STATE

    112 DT DOMINIQUE EASLEY FLORIDA

    143 CB DEION BELUE ALABAMA

    174 RB DE’ANTHONY THOMAS OREGON

    211 S VINNIE SUNSERI ALABAMA

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
  17. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    I would take either Lewan or Richardson at OT at our first round pick. Then go home and be happy. If we can land another OL or two in free agency (OT and an OG) I'd still want to draft an OT and an OG if possible.
     
  18. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Sweet jesus...Taylor Lewan, Aaron Donald, Niklas in the 4th and Jeremy Hill in the 5th. I'd explode if that happened.

    I've never been a huge fan of Su'a-Filo though I know several are. I honestly haven't looked much at Jimmie Ward or Jay Bromley but I imagine since they still have Billy Turner ranked #271 there's no way I could execute one of these and not end up taking turner in the 6th or 7th round. I'd probably find it just as hard to ignore guys like Aaron Lynch and Kareem Martin in the 6th round (ranked #183 & #185, respectively), and effing impossible to resist LB Eddie Lackey in the 7th round (ranked #484).

    I imagine that if I'm trying to optimize based on their rankings I would have to think pretty hard about doing very similar to what you did but bumping several guys up because you got them a little further down than their rankinsg would suggest. That would mean:

    R1: OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan
    R2: DT Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh
    R3: TE Troy Niklas, Notre Dame
    R4: RB Jeremy Hill, LSU
    R5: DE James Gayle, Virginia Tech
    R6: OT Billy Turner, North Dakota State
    R7: LB Eddie Lackey, Baylor

    While that draft does stick to some positions of need I think more than anything I'm maximizing the value of the availabilities. As I've said for a while, Billy Turner, Eddie Lackey and Troy Niklas should be legitimately discussed as potentially being the best at their positions. They're D.J. Haydens. Jeremy Hill is the same at his position. Aaron Donald is the same at his position. And finally yes I believe James Gayle belongs in the discussion of whether he's among the best defensive ends as I see some Greg Hardy there.

    Basically if I walk away from the draft with those seven players, I'm convinced there's a halfway decent chance that any of the seven picks could be the best at their position in the entire draft.
     
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  19. VanDolPhan

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    Figured I would try one based on going heavy in FA with OL and letting Patterson and Carroll walk to pay for Grimes. Bring in a high CB to compete with Taylor/Davis for the #2/3 spot and a later round corner to throw in the mix. And of course add a couple weapons for the offense.


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    TE ERIC EBRON
    UNC

    50
    CB MARCUS ROBERSON
    FLORIDA

    81
    RB KA’DEEM CAREY
    ARIZONA

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    DT ANTHONY JOHNSON
    LSU

    143
    CB CHRIS DAVIS
    AUBURN

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    TE MARCEL JENSEN
    FRESNO STATE

    211
    WR JEFF JANIS
    SAGINAW VALLEY STATE
     
  20. Da 'Fins

    Da 'Fins Season Ticket Holder Staff Member Club Member

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    Would like for the site to update its rankings to correspond with other rating services and mocks that are out there. Then it would make it more interesting.
     
  21. LBsFinest

    LBsFinest Banned

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    you can shut down this thread now...this mock kills every other one in here.

    1

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    TE Eric Ebron
    UNC

    2
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    CB Loucheiz Purifoy
    Florida

    3
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    OT Morgan Moses
    Virginia

    4
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    RB Carlos Hyde
    Ohio state

    5
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    OT Seantrel Henderson
    Miami

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    DT Deandre Coleman
    California

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    OT Billy Turner
    North Dakota State
     
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  22. NUGap

    NUGap Season Ticket Holder Club Member

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    The Billy Turner pick on this simulation is just too easy. For some reason the site hasn't caught on that most people are projecting him in the top rounds. Same thing just happened when I tried it and got Pierre Desir in the 7th. Clearly not up on their small school guys.
     
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  23. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    19 ot cyrus kouandjio alabama
    50 g zack martin notre dame
    81 ilb christian jones florida state
    112 rb jeremy hill lsu
    143 cb stanley jean- baptiste nebraska
    174 de james gayle virginia tech
    211 fb j.c. Copeland lsu
     
  24. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    I am going to start leaving off players with potential. I don't think Miami can coach them, they are not a good fit, i.e. Henderson, Turner.
     
  25. RickyBobby

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    ot taylor lewan
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    dt aaron donald
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    g gabe jackson
    mississippi state
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    rb andre williams
    boston college
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    cb stanley jean- baptiste
    nebraska
     
  26. jim1

    jim1 New Member

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    Was it announced that we're giving up a 6th and 7th in the McKinnie trade?
     
  27. RickyBobby

    RickyBobby VIP DIY

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    What do I win?!?


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    50
    RB LACHE SEASTRUNK
    BAYLOR
    81
    ILB CHRIS BORLAND
    WISCONSIN
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    DT DOMINIQUE EASLEY
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    G WESLEY JOHNSON
    VANDERBILT
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    OT BILLY TURNER
    NORTH DAKOTA STATE
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    CB VICTOR HAMPTON
    SOUTH CAROLINA
     
  28. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    sick
     
  29. B.Sebo

    B.Sebo TV Mastermind

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    Round 1 Pick 19: Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
    Round 2 Pick 18: Louchiez Purifoy, CB, Florida
    Round 3 Pick 17: Tre Mason, RB, Auburn
    Round 4 Pick 16: Travis Swanson, C/G, Arkansas
    Round 5 Pick 15: Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton
    Round 6 Pick 14: Aaron Murray, QB, Georgia
    Round 7 Pick 19: Ryan Grant, WR, Tulane

    The worst thing about a simulation like this, pretty sure none of those players will actually be available at the slot they were picked.

    Done without trades though on the crazy one from last year. http://first-pick.com/NFL/DraftGame.aspx
     
  30. sports24/7

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    You win. After the Seastrunk pick you could pretty much say, we are allowing a monkey to pick the rest of our draft, we got everyone we need. And drop the mic. Those top 4 are amazing.
     
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  31. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I haven't done one of these in a while. The latest one I did:

    R1: DT Aaron Donald, Pittsburgh
    R2: CB Kyle Fuller, Virginia Tech
    R3: OT Billy Turner, North Dakota State
    R4: RB Jeremy Hill, LSU
    R5: FS Kenny Ladler, Vanderbilt
    R6: TE Crockett Gilmore, Colorado State
    R7: DE Tyler Starr, South Dakota

    Top UDFAs: QB Dustin Vaughan, QB Brock Jensen, RB Zurlon Tipton, RB Branden Oliver, WR Cody Hoffman, WR L'Damian Washington, TE Gator Hoskins, OG Zach Fulton, DT Mike Pennel, DE Roosevelt Nix, LB Eddie Lackey, LB Jack Tyler, LB Shaquil Barrett, CB Aaron Colvin, FS Nickoe Whitley

    Secondary UDFAs: QB Tyler Russell, RB Isaiah Crowell, RB Marcus Shaw, WR Alex Neutz, WR Willie Snead, TE Colt Lyerla, OT Matt Patchan, DT Kerry Hyder, DE Walker May, FS Jemea Thomas
     
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  32. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    Kudos.

    I also have Billy Turner as a must have players. Matter of fact I have him at 19 to get that out of the way.

    I am also big on Fuller and Crockett and often have them in my drafts. Kenny Ladler as well, but less, because I have Loston mocked in 3rd round.

    My most frequent mock is:

    1 Billy Turner, Hageman, Martin
    2 Martavis Bryant, Baptiste, Fuller
    3. Loston
    4. Ellis DT
    5. Freeman RB, Gillmore TE
    6. Barrett OLB, Trai Turner
     
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  33. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I happen to think that taking three tailbacks you have some conviction in during UDFA is probably going to be a better strategy than going after most of the mid-round types. You will get more bang for your buck. The exception to me would be a Jeremy Hill, especially all the way down into the 4th round.

    There are some off field and character issues to sort through, and I haven't even begun that process with him. But as far as the talent on the field goes, he reminds me of a Brandon Jacobs except not quite AS huge as Jacobs, but with a lot more experience and versatility in the passing game. It's the fact that he is able to marry a lot of experience and savvy as a pass catcher to his being a compelling power back that makes me put him in as an exception.

    I have Kyle Fuller as potentially the very best corner in this draft. I haven't taken as deep a dive as I'd like on Darqueze Dennard yet but those two are neck and neck for me. When I see him available in the 2nd round then it's a no-brainer because he already would have been amongst the players I debate at 19 overall.

    I took Aaron Donald at 19 because I have him as a Marquee player, rather than just a 1st rounder. There's something special about him that I feel will make him end up one of the few well knowns among defensive tackles in the NFL.

    Billy Turner could have gone higher at my 2nd round pick. However, I don't have him as a Marquee player whereas I have both Aaron Donald and Kyle Fuller as that type of player. I could not in good conscience take Turner with either of those two available and that's why I had to wait until the 3rd round. Luckily, he was still there.

    Kenny Ladler is a guy I have rated high enough to go on Day 2. His range, discipline and the speed of his reads stood out to me in 2012 and I think it's no surprise that he ended up with 5 interceptions and 5 forced fumbles, while leading his defense in tackles in 2013. This was of course in the SEC. I like that the first thing I noticed about him was that he was a relatively safe and disciplined player, and the underlying traits that led to those things also produced big plays. The down side and ultimate reason he's still there in the 5th round is his athleticism, which is not headline-grabbing.

    In the 6th round I found it difficult to continue passing on TE Crockett Gilmore. He's not a good blocker but he is a classic tall and athletic threat up the seam that displays good hands capable of catching the football outside his frame. He's a good athlete and moves very fluidly. He would make a very classic complement to Charles Clay, though I'm not entirely sure the Dolphins are looking for a classic complement to him. They may want a guy that resembles Clay. Nonetheless, Gilmore is a good player whose value is hard to pass up at this stage.

    Finally in the 7th round there is a guy in Tyler Starr who will probably go much higher than this especially after wowing some people at the NFL Combine. I like the look of him as a defensive end and I know that he can play linebacker as well. He is insurance in case Dion Jordan doesn't pan out and to be honest you can't have too many Tyler Starrs on your football team. I have him rated as a potential Day 2 value and here he was available in the 7th round...so I could not say no. He is a version of Koa Misi that is far more compelling in pure pass rush because of his ability to bend and cut sharp corners. He marries pass rush ability with blitz ability.
     
  34. TooGoodForDez

    TooGoodForDez Deion Sanders for GM

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    I agree, Ladler reminds of Chancellor. But still, he only reminds, but that may be good enough and thensome.
    I agree, Gillmore is a must in the 6th. I'd take him even higher depending on how the draft shakes up.

    I like Hill, but I like Freeman more. Both run with power. What differentiates Freeman for me is the outside runs.
     
  35. PhinsFan93

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    Would love Hill in the 4th but I wonder if Philbin's no-nonsense character issue will affect it.

    Not disagreeing with your picks, but where would Donald fit in our rotation?

    I honestly don't see why Fuller is slept on so much. Best CB by far in this draft. Verrett is also overlooked.

    Love the rest of the picks.
     
  36. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    Kyle Fuller won't be slept on anymore I think after he goes to the Combine and tosses out some legit times. Jason Verrett might not do the same, though I do like him a lot and think he can play.

    I picture Aaron Donald as essentially replacing Randy Starks, who seems intent on leaving the team. I believe Miami could retain Paul Soliai but that still leaves 742 snaps previously taken up by Starks in the rotation with Odrick and Soliai. I think Donald would fit the position like a glove.

    And you're absolutely right about Jeremy Hill and Joe Philbin. The question will be how much authority Philbin will have versus Dennis Hickey because Hickey's Buccaneers had a history of taking chances on high talent guys that fell for reasons not unlike the reasons a Jeremy Hill could fall.
     
  37. 77FinFan

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    Maybe Mike Evans will run slow and fall. I love a guy that fights for the ball. He's like an angry receiver.
     
  38. ckparrothead

    ckparrothead Draft Forum Moderator Luxury Box

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    I don't know if he will. I think Kelvin Benjamin will run slow and fall. But I think Mike Evans will run well.
     
  39. Mexphin

    Mexphin Well-Known Member

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    No idea if this is a good selection of players but that´s what i got

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    TE ERIC EBRON
    UNC

    50​
    OT ANTONIO RICHARDSON
    TENNESSEE

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    G CYRIL RICHARDSON
    BAYLOR

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    RB ANDRE WILLIAMS
    BOSTON COLLEGE

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    DE ED STINSON
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    OT CORNELIUS LUCAS
    KANSAS STATE

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    OT MATT PATCHAN
    BOSTON COLLEGE




     
  40. nosoapradio

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    I went in thinking both lines were the priority, but these names kept popping up.

    19 TE ERIC EBRON UNC

    50 WR ALLEN ROBINSON PENN STATE

    81 RB LACHE SEASTRUNK BAYLOR

    112 G WESLEY JOHNSON VANDERBILT

    143 S KENNY LADLER VANDERBILT

    174 CB WALT AIKENS LIBERTY

    211 DT ZACK KERR DELAWARE
     

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