Practical Ramifications Of The Mess/Pouncey's Trade Value

Lol cant believe this has to be explained.

Fans have no bearing on an athletes life...even their play on the field, contrary to what "djfinfan" says, most athletes do not care what we think...theyre grown men working! At this point I dont care if we put the worst human beings in a jersey, as long as they can seperate their personal life and their (hopefully) good plays.

Thats what some of you fail to realize....Pouncey, Incognito arent the problem...its the culture behind this organization. Professional athletes can be seedy as much as they can be boy scouts...deal with it or buy a professional team of choir boys.

 

Of course not.

We need to get rid of our most talented player on the OL (possibly in the whole league) so we can move forward and get back to *****ing about how we have no talent on the OL.

 

We'll be without him for some time regardless, he'll probably be suspended, might even be traded.

 

I wouldn't be too sure.

 

I still wouldn't be too sure he won't be traded. His treatment of Martin is not the only issue with Pouncey.

 

Bc he wore a free Hernandez hat? That'd be putting politics ahead of performance, which is again, very stupid.

 

Did they separate their personal lives from their on field play? Did all the interaction between Incognito, Pouncey, Jerry, and Martin have any negative effect on the overall performance of the OL? Incognito may have thought he was toughening up Martin. That there was a method to his madness. Even if so, it appears plausible to me that a lot of things that were going on off the field could have very well had a negative effect on how crappy the OL played this past season.

 

Yeah, his only connection to Hernandez was wearing that hat. Look, I am not saying if it were my choice, that I would trade him. I am saying I would not be too sure it does not happen.

 

Could of gone the other way just as easily.

Say we handled Martin w kitten gloves, his play could of been even softer (if possible).

 

There's lots of great players who happen to be friends/associates of known scumbags.

This is the nfl.

 

He did not need to be handled with kitten gloves. Just treated the way players were treated at Stanford, and according to Jim Harbaugh, currently the same way with the 49ers. Just because one extreme had negative effects with Martin, does not mean we needed it to be the other extreme for him to be most able to fulfill his potential. Just somewhere in the middle. Like most team environments.

 

Really? It's not women's field hockey?

 

So allowed to do what he wants w no repercussions like Aldon Smith? SF isn't a great example.

If it was at all possible. For all we know Martin is and would of been a lost cause no matter who or how they tried to coach him up.

 

For all we know too, Martin would have more likely lived up to his 2nd round potential if not for the presence of a Class A idiot like Richie.

So, the reason Aldon Smith has a drinking problem is because of the 49ers locker room environment?

 

True. But based on how sloppy he looked physically combined w his play, I personally doubt he's that hard of a worker.

lol Really? No, more like Harbaugh lets his players do whatever they want and he'll still play them. We benched Ritchie for the season after this incident.

 

How many games did Smith miss this past season due to his issues with alcohol?

 

Bc going to rehab and being benched are the same thing.

 

Talented players whose character is detrimental to the team get unloaded in the NFL very often.

I wouldn't be surprised and wouldn't condemn the Dolphins for doing it either(trading Pouncey). The personalities in these 3 guys could very well have contributed to our OL looking like a non-cohesive unit for the past few years.

 

All depends on the compensation for me.

If it's less than a mid-high 2nd I'd be disappointed.

 

I agree. Given that he's not at T.O. or Randy Moss status yet, I have a hard time believing the Dolphins would even listen to offers less than that

 

All just depends how much of a vegetable they really want to turn Tannehill in to.

 

Yep,He sucks!

 

The thought Pouncey would actually be rewarded by going to a Super Bowl team for this makes me sad.

 

He won't go anywhere. He'll be staying. We'll talk about rehab and counselling and codes of conduct and community involvement. He'll stay. We'll take whatever punishment the league issues and suck it up. Doing this does mean we need to offer the same deal to Martin, whatever you think this is only fair.

 

A few mandatory sensitivity classes and everything should be fine

 

He may not be traded. Just don't be too surprised if he is.

There is more of a connection between he and Hernandez than a hat. If there wasn't, why was he subpoenaed as part of the investigation? It may mean nothing serious, we don't really have access to all the details, but it could be.
After the text messages being brought to light, he may soon be on the league's radar when it comes to drugs.

 

Boy are you going to be shocked when the suspension comes down. The Martin harassing is just the tip of the iceberg. I don't want this guy around our young OL that will be coming this season. Pouncey is as much a part of the problem as Incognito is.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/15/3938309/bullygate-fallout-may-force-miami.html

Wouldn't be surprised if it went to 8 games. Roger's been known to lay down some hefty suspensions.

Chances are they won't trade him..........but they better light a damn fire under his *** to clean up and be on him all the time. If he screws up even once....then ship him out.

 

You did not read the 144 page Wells Report or you don't think fans of other teams bothered reading it?

 

Or getting punked like a bunch of wusses in the last two games.

 

In the end, do any of the clowns that anchored this offensive line deserve to be on the team? Is Pouncey THAT outstanding that he's untouchable? I don't think so. And if the "culture" is trying to be changed, doesn't it make sense to dump those who helped create and cultivate that culture? I'm not getting all high and mighty and demanding he be traded, but on the flip side I wouldn't care if he wasn't on the opening day roster.